Powerplay How will 1.4 affect powerplay?

[Lord of the Isles]

The new Emperor (whoever it is) will announce that Frontier Developments have discovered and foiled a plot by Thargoids to drug all the pilots of the galaxy. All the weirdness in Powerplay over the last 16 cycles is down to this evil poisoning of pilots, and corruptions of Galnet and other computer systems by the aliens. Much rejoicing will ensue.

Or to put it another way, a start might be made in fixing bugs. Hey, I can dream, can't I?

 

[Vasious]

If the War of the Roses have taught us anything, there will always be pretenders plotting when there is a not a clear and strong successor.

The Princesses Lavigny or Duval could become Empress and no need to remove the winner as a Power.
If they were then to fall into turmoil for a period or even collapse* then a perfect organic way for a war for the throne to start.
This might be beyond 1.4 though

I don't think the Emperor's Dawn will be a new power, but becomes the front for one of the losing ones in the Imperial Power Struggle, for the sole reason of "use the Ultra Nationalist/extremists to over throw my enemies" we see often in history

Though I could understand an Imperial power reshuffle, as currently the four are the possible contenders to the throne, once the succession crisis ends, they might be reorganized into the Crown Faction and a Senate Faction, vying for control, akin to the Two parties of the Federation.
The Alliance could so with an opposition party to methinks

Though how that would work in game, with a reshuffle I dont know.

If there is a new Player Power from a Minor Player faction, I'd like to see the first one be one of the Independents.

 

[Martin Schou]

What part of my post mentions turmoil?

You didn't. I talk about turmoil because it tells you a lot about the stability of a power.

I said Archon has been 10 for a while and the devs said at the beginning that a power remains in the bottom 3 for too long they can be removed.

No, they said if they remain in the bottom 3 for too long without expanding, they are at risk of collapse. Currently the record for that belongs to Torval, and removing Archon from powerplay when he's not even touched Torval's record would be beyond absurd and simply prove that FDev do not want the Empire to suffer failure.

 

[Iori]

You didn't. I talk about turmoil because it tells you a lot about the stability of a power.

The thing is that turmoil is irrelevant here, with the current system, is virtually impossible for Archon to enter turmoil because of its size, it doesn't have to account for overheads costs, so a small power is always gonna have stability.

No, they said if they remain in the bottom 3 for too long without expanding

AFAIK they have not expanded, their expansions are being contained.

And BTW, this is a prediction/speculation post. I'm not calling for Archon to be removed, is not that I WANT it to happen. I'm actually against the Pegasi war, if it was up to me, I would just deny their expansions into imperial territory and limit the operations to that end.

 

[Crimson Kaim]

I think no changes will be made with 1.4. Everything stays as it is.

 

[Martin Schou]

AFAIK they have not expanded, their expansions are being contained.

Then your knowledge is faulty. They last expanded into Badjarans at the end of cycle 13. Sure, that's 3 weeks without expansions so far, but that's still below Torval's record. And as I said, if Archon is collapsed without having gone without an expansion for longer than Torval, then something is seriously wrong with the powers that decide when a power collapses.

 

[Krezan]

Why people are warring on the most pounded faction is beyond me (unless you like kicking cats). Ed the head is number one at th moment, can't we level him off.

 

[Martin Schou]

Why people are warring on the most pounded faction is beyond me (unless you like kicking cats). Ed the head is number one at th moment, can't we level him off.

I hate to break it to you, but Edmund Mahon has consistently been one of if not the most undermined power for several months now. On a per system basis Archon does get more undermining, but in raw numbers Mahon sees more.

That being said, the continuous war on Archon Delaine is pretty much the dictionary definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

 

[GluttonyFang]

That being said, the continuous war on Archon Delaine is pretty much the dictionary definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

Bahahaha... I'm glad someone's willing to point it out bluntly...

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Then your knowledge is faulty. They last expanded into Badjarans at the end of cycle 13. Sure, that's 3 weeks without expansions so far, but that's still below Torval's record. And as I said, if Archon is collapsed without having gone without an expansion for longer than Torval, then something is seriously wrong with the powers that decide when a power collapses.

You know how much the Empire want Archon gone, they'll use whatever at their disposal to remove us...

 

[Smurfprime]

This is a highly speculative post.

It seems that everything is gearing up for the imperial succession to coincide with the launch of 1.4, so, here is my take on what's gonna happen:

I think a big game update is needed to make a major overhaul to powerplay and to include and remove powers and to account for the new imperial leadership.
So if powerplay landscape is going to change at some point, this is the perfect moment.

In my opinion:

-Arissa or Aisling changed title to Empress, maybe removed as a power or maybe not.
-If one marries Patreus, he will be merged or removed too.
-Blaine may be included as a power.
-Archon Delaine removed for being in the 10 place for too long.
-Emperor's dawn included as a power, probably hostile to everyone. (if one of the current powers is behind Emperor's Dawn, his/her power would be merged into it)


So what changes do you think will happen that will reshape the powerplay landscape?

I really hope it is a major shake up like you are predicting, but I am not going to hold my breath.

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Then your knowledge is faulty. They last expanded into Badjarans at the end of cycle 13. Sure, that's 3 weeks without expansions so far, but that's still below Torval's record. And as I said, if Archon is collapsed without having gone without an expansion for longer than Torval, then something is seriously wrong with the powers that decide when a power collapses.

That may be true, but Torval is not a continuous occupant of the anchorman rank.

Out of curiosity what is the record number of weeks without expansion?

 

[GaryII]

Unfortunately not much...

if you are looking at 1.4 change log, there are no many changes for PP..

 

[Smurfprime]

Unfortunately not much...

if you are looking at 1.4 change log, there are no many changes for PP..

They are busy working on other updates/expansions now, I would not be surprised if PP got no at all attention until after the first of the year.

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

I think no changes will be made with 1.4. Everything stays as it is.

You lost that bet. They definitely tweaked spawn rates of target ships in undermining systems.

Also the changes to interdiction are adding significant time to the combat cycle, as well as the lack of suitable targets to interdict.

 

[Iori]

No changes

Oh well, ALD is Emperor now, so I guess mission accomplished. One more week to consolidate it, I smell anti Emperor's Dawn CG soon.