I clubbed a seal and I think I was justified....

PS if you only play in solo, may you be hunted by the soul of CMDR GunnerBill which manifests itself as the dreaded neutron star!

PPS in all seriousness of course we should all play however we wish, there's too much worry and restriction in the real world to get annoyed over a (admittedly very good) space flight simulator :)
 
PS if you only play in solo, may you be hunted by the soul of CMDR GunnerBill which manifests itself as the dreaded neutron star!

PPS in all seriousness of course we should all play however we wish, there's too much worry and restriction in the real world to get annoyed over a (admittedly very good) space flight simulator :)
Neutron Stars are Ok, it is White Dwarf Stars that are unkind.

As for modes, let those who lament others using all of the modes available keep singing their sad little song... It cheers me up :)
 
Neutron Stars are Ok, it is White Dwarf Stars that are unkind.

As for modes, let those who lament others using all of the modes available keep singing their sad little song... It cheers me up :)

They say that a lot of people on their deathbed don't look back on money or success in their lifetime... but they do wish they had spent more time in open in Elite Dangerous
 
They say that a lot of people on their deathbed don't look back on money or success in their lifetime... but they do wish they had spent more time in open in Elite Dangerous
I'd have thought entirely the opposite, that they lamented wasting so much time, but you do wonderfully support exactly the point I made, thank you ;)
I love the pretense that open is special...but then, with the English slang use of the word, it probably is 🤷‍♂️
(I spent nearly 3 years playing only in open, then got bored and play now without other 'players' wasting my time but complimenting it instead - but it is a matter of perspective, I just consider it similar to growing up)
 
The people attacking the OP are just ridiculous. They were both playing the game, end of story. You guys would have a heart attack if you visited a CS:GO forum.
Mmmm, yes, telling someone that brags about being a >censored because calling someone something vulgar is more wrong than them actually being one< is ridiculous....

Online Disinhibition Effect - The only reason he did it is because there were no consequences, making him a moral coward. Then, either salt mining or looking for compliments from similarly morally bankrupt people, he came here and posted about it.

The game he, and you, are playing isn't Elite : Dangerous, that is merely the tool used.

Oh, and your False Equivalence in comparing a game where everyone is a combatant to this is....
 
The people attacking the OP are just ridiculous. They were both playing the game, end of story. You guys would have a heart attack if you visited a CS:GO forum.
Well CS-GO is a pure shooting game, isn't it? So playing pacifist there is quite hard. Now as far as I know ED is not a pure shooter.
 
I'd have thought entirely the opposite, that they lamented wasting so much time, but you do wonderfully support exactly the point I made, thank you ;)
I love the pretense that open is special...but then, with the English slang use of the word, it probably is 🤷‍♂️
(I spent nearly 3 years playing only in open, then got bored and play now without other 'players' wasting my time but complimenting it instead - but it is a matter of perspective, I just consider it similar to growing up)

It Is special! I play on xbox so it costs me a bit extra what with the xbox gold / online payment.







The rest of the time I just play in solo :D
 
OP explodes a player who couldn't fight back, isn't satisfied by the salt harvest (there wasn't any?), so tries to get admiration in the forum. Fails.
He wasn't looking for admiration in the forum, he was looking for salt in the forum.

Judging by the way this thread exploded while I was in bed, he succeeded.

Hell, I bet he didn't even have to gank anyone. Just saying he did is enough to get people tearing their hair out.
 
As it does if I choose to play on PS4 - I had to pay Sony a silly amount for a year too..
Thankfully most of my play is on PC, where no additional fee is required to be paid.

Good point, you probably have a good overview having been able to see it from all angles (console and PC) . Honestly if any friends of mine started playing today and asked me which mode to play, I would simply suggest they try both.
 
they would never expect something that can completely shut down their ship and kill them before they realize what's happening, because other players' ship has superpowers, which takes eternity to grind for.

Early on in the game a four second burst of laser fire from a Viper, a couple volleys of missiles, a single alpha from a railgun equipped ApsX, or just colliding once with one of the larger ships around (or a stationary object), could send an player who put in dozens of hours of effort into getting that Eagle MkII straight to the rebuy screen.

Nothing seemed surprising with TTKs on this level to anyone who had played many air or space combat games (anywhere on the simulator-arcade spectrum) featuring fighteresque craft.

Plus, as with recent example with Sir Gankalot dude, it shows pretty well that if you come across wing of gankers that know what they are doing, you have absolutely zero chance to escape, and nothing or no one can help you, no matter how your ship is built or how experienced you are.

This is a terrible example, because Ganksalot was screwing around and trying to make for a good show by fighting when he was supposed to be running, and is leading you to completely erroneous conclusions.

If he was actually trying to make it from point A to B, without getting shot down, he'd:

-Not have been on a preannounced/static route (limiting escape options and allowing reliable ambushes to be set).
-Not been streaming without a delay (likewise).
-Sent his wing ahead so he wasn't flying blindly into danger (a mitigation for the above).
-Had his wing proactively interdict people before he arrived (as is this).
-Not tried to scoop fuel after the first jump while people were clearly waiting for him and just dropped out of SC to prepare the next jump (even an expert pilot cannot reliably get to a low wake before a high wake is ready to go, outside of nearly perfect starting positioning).
-Not have deployed hardpoints to fight after being interdicted (waste of time spent assessing targets for engagement rather than following his own best practice escape advice).

Doing any one of those differently would likely have meant escape.

At every step prior to his CMDR being shot down very early on, he chose what he thought would make for an interesting stream, rather than an uneventful one.
 
And you expect this from new players?? Every single ganker I heard about so far flies G5 murderboat. What chances new player have against them?? Lack of experience, millions of controls, panic attack, managing PIPs, focusing on boosting away and spinning up FSD in the same time... Give me break, you talking well versed player, not a newb...
I don't know why anyone bothers with a G5 murderboat for ganking harmless cmdrs to be honest, a G2-3 adder would be more than up to the task, wouldn't stand out in supercruise, and if the law enforcers do eventually get the drop on you you don't even care about ditching it for the freewinder and buying a new one.
 
Early on in the game a four second burst of laser fire from a Viper, a couple volleys of missiles, a single alpha from a railgun equipped ApsX, or just colliding once with one of the larger ships around (or a stationary object), could send an player who put in dozens of hours of effort into getting that Eagle MkII straight to the rebuy screen.

Nothing seemed surprising with TTKs on this level to anyone who had played many air or space combat games (anywhere on the simulator-arcade spectrum) featuring fighteresque craft.
Back then TTK was pretty much universal, so it wasn't a big deal. Now, when you jump someone shieldless with G5 weapons, they almost instantly explode, while your unengineered arsenal wouldn't even put a dent in their shield or hull. It's too one sided. Balance is brutally skewed. Even shieldless, hull alone of T9 should take decent beating before going down. If you stack enough HRPs in Eagle and engineer for strength and resistances, it becomes more durable than hull of stock large ship. Plus there were no experimentals either.

This is a terrible example, because Ganksalot was screwing around and trying to make for a good show by fighting when he was supposed to be running, and is leading you to completely erroneous conclusions.

If he was actually trying to make it from point A to B, without getting shot down, he'd:

-Not have been on a preannounced/static route (limiting escape options and allowing reliable ambushes to be set).
-Not been streaming without a delay (likewise).
-Sent his wing ahead so he wasn't flying blindly into danger (a mitigation for the above).
-Had his wing proactively interdict people before he arrived (as is this).
-Not tried to scoop fuel after the first jump while people were clearly waiting for him and just dropped out of SC to prepare the next jump (even an expert pilot cannot reliably get to a low wake before a high wake is ready to go, outside of nearly perfect starting positioning).
-Not have deployed hardpoints to fight after being interdicted (waste of time spent assessing targets for engagement rather than following his own best practice escape advice).

Doing any one of those differently would likely have meant escape.

At every step prior to his CMDR being shot down very early on, he chose what he thought would make for an interesting stream, rather than an uneventful one.
It was excellent experiment showing what wing of experienced gankers can do in real situation, and how fast. The idea is that if you get interdicted and forced into combat, which isn't exactly avoidable in all possible situations, many "experts" here say that it is still easy to escape. All these conditions from that test were set to find him, otherwise he could just fly somewhere in void, which defeats purpose of that whole setup. For him, it would be also pretty silly to start high waking as soon as CD dropped, because he was in combat META ship, he technically should have been able to fight back. Even if he did attempt to run sooner, these guys would keep him grom'd and dragged (as they did), as I'm pretty sure he understood there was nothing he can do. That's why it seemed like he failed somewhere, while in reality he didn't. Just guys who were on him did everything by the book. They actually could do a lot better with slightly different ship combo.
 
For him, it would be also pretty silly to start high waking as soon as CD dropped, because he was in combat META ship, he technically should have been able to fight back.

A meta FDL is not going to hold up to concentrated to focus fire in open space. Indeed, it's not even particularly well suited to absorb railgun hits because it's probably going all in on MJ to stand up to close range PA fire and rams.

In a real wing fight anyone who knew they were going to be this heavily focused would have made sure they were one of the last, rather than the first to drop in, and would have disengaged and re-engaged to mix things up if they found themselves being the target of focus with no way to break contact otherwise.

Even if he did attempt to run sooner, these guys would keep him grom'd and dragged (as they did), as I'm pretty sure he understood there was nothing he can do.

Groms are not hard to avoid. They first hit Ganksalot when he was screwing with his wing menu while drifting in a straight line...after taking 28 seconds to even decide to leave after submitting. He could have been gone before most of his opponents were even in the instance.

That's why it seemed like he failed somewhere, while in reality he didn't.

It seems like he failed at escape because he did.

Just guys who were on him did everything by the book.

The book is stacked heavily in favor of escape.

They actually could do a lot better with slightly different ship combo.

So could have Ganksalot.
 
So you are backing out? Give me your location and I will BE there.

This reminds me of after-hour high school fights.

As to a dolphin flipping over a seal, that would be an Orca flipping over a seal, not one of the smaller relations as it wouldn't exhibit that predatory behavior

The OP doesn't violate any rules by snuffing the "seal", it's just that personal rules of engagement vary.

I rarely see live CMDRs, time zone and everything, and my mantra is live and let live, unless attacked.
 
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