I Play on Solo Play

I don't understand why people even bother with CGs, when their rewards are so low at the top 10, you can make more in 15 minutes of doing scan missions.

Because not everyone wants to do crap exploit style missions, make billions in a few weeks and then complain about being bored. It's not all about the money.
 
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Meh, I play in solo or PG most of the time, not just because I don't want to be someone else's content, but in Open or Mobius it's tough to get kills in a bounty hunting CG because there too many players going after too few targets. And in trade CG's, you can't get a landing pad or commanders are jamming the mailslot. So from a CG perspective (which is most of what I do) I don't play Open for practical reasons. That and lag gets really bad.
After about 2 years of this game, I don't think I'm missing out on anything open has to offer. If you want to be all chatty, there is always Mobius.
 
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I ventured into Open a few times after this, but... I wasn't beset by gankers, griefers or anything like that. Instead, what I found was that performance was terrible. Ships skipped across space and approaching a station was like bungee-jumping on speed. I can't, won't, play like that.

THIS ^^ Is the other often overlooked downside of playing in Open when you are in a populated area due to a CG or some other community event. The laggy connections some players have, coupled with your own network related bugaboos turn the normally smooth and silky experience found in Solo and most PGs into a herky jerky mess!

Nothing pulls me out of the game experience more than flying in Super Cruise and seeing those "shooting stars" representing other players rubber banding all over the place.

Then there is the infamous BLUE TUNNEL SYNDROME, where you attempt to drop down at a station or where ever and find yourself stuck, just sitting there for up to several minutes waiting for the game to instance you into whatever gang of players are populating your drop zone. This is especially immersion breaking when you are coming into a planetary base, and are basically frozen over the surface of the planet waiting, and waiting, and waiting. [mad]

It is this kind of crap more than any player related aspects in Open that has me avoiding the mode most of the time. And as I said previously... If you are a member of a large PG like Mobius, you can find all of the upsides associated with Open mode with none of the notorious downsides. The one unfortunate exception being that a busy PG instance will often have the same networking normally associated with Open mode.

In cases like that, where you are on a deadline trying to deliver as much cargo as possible within a specific space of time where having a Solo Mode can be a godsend. :)
 
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Again? Took less than a week this time to hit the 20k limit on the latest PG slot. ;) (likely due to the new PS4 community discovering the benefits of Mobius for the first time)

There's only a few hundred of us on MobiusPVE for PS4 right now. It's totally separate from the PC. PS4 players also seem to be less "embracing" of Mobius and Solo play at the moment. But I totally get where the OP is coming from. As a Mobius player on the PS4, I might as well be playing Solo most of the time.
 
I don't understand why people even bother with CGs, when their rewards are so low at the top 10, you can make more in 15 minutes of doing scan missions.

I do them because I find them fun. I challenge myself to be in the top 10%. It's not about the credits. Scan missions are BORING and if you're making that much cash, I'd (personally) consider it to be an exploit.
 
I do them because I find them fun. I challenge myself to be in the top 10%. It's not about the credits. Scan missions are BORING and if you're making that much cash, I'd (personally) consider it to be an exploit.
Agree.

And here's why some also think there's no depth and nothing to do in Elite but grinding (like scan missions to make credits). Well, CGs are a bit more "immersive" to the game and lore. You participate in providing a service or products that someone needs and it's for building a new station somewhere, and lo and behold, a couple of days after the CG is over, the station is being built! CG is a way of participating in the evolution of the game, and it's also at times quite fun to do. I also try to get into top 10%, or at least the top 25%. Many times it's quite easy actually, and when the different goals are met and the reward suddenly increases, all the better. I've done some CGs that paid 20 mil, and yes, grinding with scan missions might have given me more for the same time of work, but the CG was definitely more fun to do.
 
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There's only a few hundred of us on MobiusPVE for PS4 right now. It's totally separate from the PC. PS4 players also seem to be less "embracing" of Mobius and Solo play at the moment. But I totally get where the OP is coming from. As a Mobius player on the PS4, I might as well be playing Solo most of the time.

Just give it some time. If memory serves, the Xbox Mobius group got off to a slow start as well, but now they have quite a respectable showing of players.

Console players are not as familiar with third party support for their games, so groups like Mobius who have their own impressive website, forums etc. tend to be more easily discovered by PC gamers, who are use to using third party sites along with their main game.

ED as you already know has a thriving community of third party sites supporting the game, including dedicated websites for the larger private groups like Mobius.
 
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I must be seriously missing something when it comes to doing missions or really any other job than straight up trading commodities from station to station if earning credits is the main goal. If I find a decent 2-point trade run, I could make 2-4 million in an 8 minute loop in a trade outfitted Annie, and after doing the Empire's rank grind, I can make twice that in my Cutter.

Once you've spent your first week or so in Elite getting out of the small ships and into a decent trading ship, you can be a billionaire in a matter of days assuming you take 10-20 mins to filter the galaxy map and hunt down a trade loop that's not on eddb and therefore instantly sucked dry. But honestly they're not all that hard to find.

I'll go bounty hunting or pirating in my Fer-De-Lance for the thrill, but I never, ever do it to make an in-game living for the credits. After an hour, I'm lucky if I made more than that 8 min trade loop in the Annie, let alone the Cutter. The time to credits investment is atrocious compared to a simple trade loop.

Maybe if I had a Corvette that killed things faster, it'd be different... Hm... now I'm gonna have to grind Fed rep to try it out... lol...
 
I must be seriously missing something when it comes to doing missions or really any other job than straight up trading commodities from station to station if earning credits is the main goal.

If grinding maximum credits is your main goal, you'll likely get bored with ED fairly soon. My advice is to try to find things to do that are both enjoyable and profitable. Also, vary things a bit and don't get stuck in a rut.
 
If grinding maximum credits is your main goal, you'll likely get bored with ED fairly soon. My advice is to try to find things to do that are both enjoyable and profitable. Also, vary things a bit and don't get stuck in a rut.

The other alternative to straight up trade hauling is focusing on the "VIP Passenger Transport" missions. You will need to buy yourself a dedicated passenger ship like the Orca to get the most out of these, but it is totally worth it!

In case Synthetic Frost didn't already know...

These specific transport missions are always a simple A to B run of under 100Ly that pay anywhere between 3 Million and 12 Million credits! If you setup an Orca with 3, 4 or 5 first class/Luxury cabins and engineer your FSD drive to a Grade 5 range, you can stack 3-5 of these missions into one run, and if you cherry pick the highest payouts, you can come away with upwards of 40-50 MILLION CR for less than 30 minutes of flight time! (An Orca with a Grade 5 FSD upgrade can do 100Ly in 2-3 jumps depending on the build/weight of cargo)

The various drops tend to all be within 12-30Ly of each other, so once you have made the trip out to the first system, the others are all one jump away. You will often end up with two or three going to the same station as well, in which case you can wind up completing the entire run in 10-15 minutes. :)

These missions are what I relied on to build up my free cash amount to 4.8 BILLION CR as of right now. :) A great compliment to PowerPlay as well, since the 50 Million per week salary for a Rank 5 doesn't always cover all of your fortification/preparation expenses.

EDIT: To get the max payouts, you need to be Allied with the mission givers, but this is also worth the effort for obvious reasons. ;)
 
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Oh I've been playing pretty consistently since the game's alpha stages. I've just never bothered to get involved in the community goals, powerplay, or the like. I guess It's just that introverted part of me, but I just legitimately do not understand the point or appeal of them. There's absolutely no reward in them that's worth the time investment compared to just grinding out the cash for an a-rated and engineered ship.

Other than that, I haven't gotten bored yet. What I typically do when I play is spend a few days grinding credits via trade loops to fund myself for whatever major activity I'm planning. Then I don't even think about credits for a few weeks or months until I get below 100 million. Then I grind again.

What I get out of Elite is the immersion and the lore. When I'm flying my ship, I can so easily just look out my canopy and believe I really am a pilot of a ship, alone, just making my own way in the galaxy. Thinking about the vastness of space is one of the only things that lets me feel truly alone and at peace with my thoughts, and playing Elite is the closest I've ever gotten to actually living out that dream. If I had the chance in real life to leave Earth behind and fly my own personal ship from lonely station to station and like I can in Elite and live like that for the rest of my life, I would.

I'm as introverted in game as I am in real life. I went out of my way to find a quiet little corner of the inhabited bubble, and just live out my life in the black. I pay attention to the lore. I read the Galnet News. I'll defend my home system if it's ever in trouble, but beyond that I couldn't really care less what the political powers are up to. So as I said, powerplay doesn't hold any appeal to me.
 
There's only a few hundred of us on MobiusPVE for PS4 right now. It's totally separate from the PC. PS4 players also seem to be less "embracing" of Mobius and Solo play at the moment. But I totally get where the OP is coming from. As a Mobius player on the PS4, I might as well be playing Solo most of the time.

Oh, they'll soon come around. When they realise that they're simply bait for the heavily armed gank squads, they will be looking for a quick escape from Open.
 
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