Not a single time has Ark been mentioned in this thread. Get out troll.
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Not a single time has Ark been mentioned in this thread. Get out troll.
Okay - this where we are going to disagree, a bit .
Yes - the official JP3 stats for the Spinosaurus lists it at - 13.3 meters/43.75 feet long. And Yes - the JP3 Spinosaurus - is a very different dinosaur from the modern real world Spinosaurus. However there is no indication - that the JP3 Spinosaurus was fully grown.
The best estimates for Spinosaurus length based on the current skeletal model is at least 14.9-15.24 meters/49-50 feet long. But keep in mind this is semi-quadrupedal Spinosaurus . The older bipedal model of Spinosaurus is more like the JP3 Spinosaurus - however even those estimates suggested Spinosaurus was at least 14-14.6 meters/46-48 feet in length.
Honestly - the length estimates for these carnivorous dinosaurs - I would prefer to see is the following
Tyrannosaurus rex - 12.8 meters/42 feet long, 5 meters/16.4 feet tall, and a weight of 8-9 metric tons - - - This would be a good average for the adult T.rexes of the Jurassic Park/Jurassic World Series.
Giganotosaurus - 13.1-13.4 meters/43-44 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall. and a weight of 8-8.5 metric tons
Spinosaurus - 14-14.3 meters/46-47 feet long, 6.1 meters/20 feet tall(at top of spines) and a weight of 10-11 metric tons
Indominus rex - 15.24 meters/50 feet long, 5.8 meters/19 feet tall, and a weight of 12 metric tons.
As these figures are the most realistic, yet they also fit rather nice in to Jurassic Park/Jurassic World canon,
Meanwhile i can agree partially with what you have written here, Giga wasnt that shorter than T-rex.
He was slimmer. The ingame Giga right now is literally copypasted body from T-rex almost. Its not very close to how it would actually look like if u take an exception to the head. And even then the head is too small.
yea i found his own post and said that in a reply to him that i have not seen anyone say anything about ark lol and all we want is it to be at least same size as the rex.
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I think most agree us tend to on that fact. They should have given them the following stats
T.rex - 12.8 meters/42 feet long, 5 meters/16.4 feet tall, about 8-9 metric tons - about average size for a JP/JW T.rex
Giganotosaurus - 13.1 meters/43 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall, about 8 metric tons
Spinosaurus - 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 6.1 meters/20 feet tall (at top of the spines), 11-12 metric tons. (basically it's JP3 stats).
Those would be some good stats - as the Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus would at very least be slightly larger than T.rex.
We can debate the size and all, and i would accept the ones you've written up as long as the Giganotosaurus model got a complete overhaul. Which probably wont happen. It doesnt look anything like its supposed to.
Ive looked at it ingame now, its just a copypaste body. Gave it a extra claw on its hands and there you go. The posturing and the thickness of the ribcage is wrong. Tail should be slimmer and longer. Its just a copypasted T-rex.
I think this is a good relative size to put into the game.
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Made this for comparison.
Spinosaurus fixes:
- Corrected height to 4,3m on the hip, with 2m extra height with the sail.
- Model is nowhere near 15m long. Make it 14.3m long and call it a day.
- Weight should be reduced to 14 tons atleast.
GIganotosaurus Fixes:
- Model needs a complete rework to a slimmer and more agile build. Long thin tail, slim ribcage, larger hands, protruding vertebrae
- Model size corrections.
- Length corrected to 14.3 meters.
- Weight corrected to 10 tons.
- Height corrected to 4.3 meters.
Tyrannosaurus Rex:
- Model size corrections based on factual numbers. bring forth the shrink ray.
- Height corrected to 4.6 meters.
- Weight corrected to 12 tons.
- Length corrected to 13.2 meters.
I've read on Jurassic World website. They listed T-rex's size is 40ft long ~ 12,2m and weight 9 tons. (it' is size of the largest t-rex's skeleton -SUE)
People said Rexy is 44ft long ~ 13,4m. But there is only one Rexy on Jurassic World.
So i suggest scaling down t-rex size 87%
Weight: 6-9 tonnes
Spinosaurus's size is okay (averange 14-16m long in fact)
Weight: 9-14 tonnes
Giganotosaurus: lenght scale up 10% ~ 13,2m
Weight: 7-9.5 tonnes
People said Rexy is 44ft long ~ 13,4m. But there is only one Rexy on Jurassic World.
So i suggest scaling down t-rex size 87%
Weight: 6-9 tonnes
Spinosaurus's size is okay (averange 14-16m long in fact)
Weight: 9-14 tonnes
Giganotosaurus: lenght scale up 10% ~ 13,2m
Weight: 7-9.5 tonnes
I thought Rexy was 44ft long?
The Giga should be at least as long and as tall as Rexy. Slimmer and slightly longer arms. I'm confused why they chose to make the Giga literally half the size of Rexy. That's just unacceptable.
We can't look at the scientific version of the Spino since it does not resemble that of the JP3 Spino. That being said, the Spino should be the largest carnivore in this game. Period.
I understand they wanted to make Rexy the star of the show, but they need to make the Giga and JP Spino more accurate in size.
I'll say that I am loving this game, but when I made my first Giga and saw it was half the size of Rexy (it looks barely bigger than the Ceratosaurus?) I was insanely disappointed. They need to make the Giga bigger.
The Giga should be at least as long and as tall as Rexy. Slimmer and slightly longer arms. I'm confused why they chose to make the Giga literally half the size of Rexy. That's just unacceptable.
We can't look at the scientific version of the Spino since it does not resemble that of the JP3 Spino. That being said, the Spino should be the largest carnivore in this game. Period.
I understand they wanted to make Rexy the star of the show, but they need to make the Giga and JP Spino more accurate in size.
I'll say that I am loving this game, but when I made my first Giga and saw it was half the size of Rexy (it looks barely bigger than the Ceratosaurus?) I was insanely disappointed. They need to make the Giga bigger.
Can you guys be a bit up to date ?
Spinosaurus is not anymore a 9 tonnes-20 tonnes behemoth.
I was discussing this with Simone Maganuco and Dal Sasso just last week.
Their new 2014 model (regardless of the size of the legs) gave a body mass of 7.5 tonnes for the 15 m adult.
This estimate wasn't included in their paper but will be in the next and other people have already performed similar calculations :
https://franoys.deviantart.com/journal/A-mathematical-analysis-on-Spinosaurus-mass-635495737
The critter was very shallow and narrow.
Science marches on and perhaps new data will come but with a live skull of 82 kg against 524 kg for Sue skull, I really doubt a 15 m adult Spinosaurus will be reevaluated in body mass.
Same thing for Giganotosaurus. The latest estimates all show an animal as long or marginally longer than T. rex but significantly lighter.
I definitely agree that Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus need to updated in size in the game but I'm tired to read "they should be bigger than T. rex !", while none specimen equals the biggest Tyrannosaurus in weight. Let alone thd possibly 13.4 m Rexy.
As Rexy is based on JW which stated it at 13.4 m, this should be her size.
Spinosaurus should be 46 feet based on the original JP3 chart.
Giganotosaurus should be based on the modern estimates of its size (see Hartman 2013).
Indominus should be at the 15.2 m of its official chart.
It should be noticed that in the various promotional material of the movies some weight stats for Rexy exceed those of Indominus...
Spinosaurus is not anymore a 9 tonnes-20 tonnes behemoth.
I was discussing this with Simone Maganuco and Dal Sasso just last week.
Their new 2014 model (regardless of the size of the legs) gave a body mass of 7.5 tonnes for the 15 m adult.
This estimate wasn't included in their paper but will be in the next and other people have already performed similar calculations :
https://franoys.deviantart.com/journal/A-mathematical-analysis-on-Spinosaurus-mass-635495737
The critter was very shallow and narrow.
Science marches on and perhaps new data will come but with a live skull of 82 kg against 524 kg for Sue skull, I really doubt a 15 m adult Spinosaurus will be reevaluated in body mass.
Same thing for Giganotosaurus. The latest estimates all show an animal as long or marginally longer than T. rex but significantly lighter.
I definitely agree that Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus need to updated in size in the game but I'm tired to read "they should be bigger than T. rex !", while none specimen equals the biggest Tyrannosaurus in weight. Let alone thd possibly 13.4 m Rexy.
As Rexy is based on JW which stated it at 13.4 m, this should be her size.
Spinosaurus should be 46 feet based on the original JP3 chart.
Giganotosaurus should be based on the modern estimates of its size (see Hartman 2013).
Indominus should be at the 15.2 m of its official chart.
It should be noticed that in the various promotional material of the movies some weight stats for Rexy exceed those of Indominus...
Well - the stats of all 3 theropods should be base on their appearance in the JP/JW films - or in the case of Giganotosaurus - it's real world estimates.
The JP3 Spinosaurus was NOT based on the more modern long, slim Spinosaurus - but it was instead based on the best estimates/approximations of Spinosaurus from date around 2000/2001. Which was a taller, heavier, and more terrestrial animal. So the Spinosaurus from JWE should be based Dinosaur we saw in JP3 - not the slimmer, shorter, and lighter semi-aquatic dinosaur we currently see as "scientifically accurate". Please remember that - that the dinosaurs of JP/JW series is NOT always the most "Scientific Accurate" - but are basically are just theme park creations/monsters.
So if the JWE T.rex is based on Rexy from Jurassic World - T.rex should be 13.4 meters/44 feet (not 14 meters/46 feet as stated in the game), and about 9-10 tons(not 18 tons). The overall height of the JWE T.rex is on par with the T.rexes from the JP/JW films.
So 15 meters/49 feet figure for Spinosaurus in JWE actually makes a good fit as it basically combines - "scientific accuracy" with JP/JW lore . But it still should be about 6 meters/19.7 feet at the top of it's spine, and weigh about 12-15 tons, not 20 tons.
The Giganosaurus - is of course - too small, in JWE. It actually should be about 13.1-13.7 meters/43-45 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall, and weigh about 8-9 tons. That way - it would also be more accurate, in relative size compared to the other two.
The JP3 Spinosaurus was NOT based on the more modern long, slim Spinosaurus - but it was instead based on the best estimates/approximations of Spinosaurus from date around 2000/2001. Which was a taller, heavier, and more terrestrial animal. So the Spinosaurus from JWE should be based Dinosaur we saw in JP3 - not the slimmer, shorter, and lighter semi-aquatic dinosaur we currently see as "scientifically accurate". Please remember that - that the dinosaurs of JP/JW series is NOT always the most "Scientific Accurate" - but are basically are just theme park creations/monsters.
So if the JWE T.rex is based on Rexy from Jurassic World - T.rex should be 13.4 meters/44 feet (not 14 meters/46 feet as stated in the game), and about 9-10 tons(not 18 tons). The overall height of the JWE T.rex is on par with the T.rexes from the JP/JW films.
So 15 meters/49 feet figure for Spinosaurus in JWE actually makes a good fit as it basically combines - "scientific accuracy" with JP/JW lore . But it still should be about 6 meters/19.7 feet at the top of it's spine, and weigh about 12-15 tons, not 20 tons.
The Giganosaurus - is of course - too small, in JWE. It actually should be about 13.1-13.7 meters/43-45 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall, and weigh about 8-9 tons. That way - it would also be more accurate, in relative size compared to the other two.
The giga is like the ceratosaurus in term of size, maybe a little bigger, and thats is not how it's supposed to be. You can say what you want, but he need to be made larger.
& the head of the t-rex is to much bigger than the head of the spino,
just saying, i'ts a fiction, so no need to talk about the real animals (because the spino would look like a dummy), but just make the spino of JP3 in term of size, his head was fine and looked heavier.
& the head of the t-rex is to much bigger than the head of the spino,
just saying, i'ts a fiction, so no need to talk about the real animals (because the spino would look like a dummy), but just make the spino of JP3 in term of size, his head was fine and looked heavier.
So I made a Giga as maxed out as I could against my 1300 star rated Rex (that killed Indominus!) and the Giga.... won! LoL