i want to turn my home system.
- Thread starter Conch
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You are going to have to give a little bit more information than what you have given to date.
There are lots of commanders out there who are willing to help manipulate the BGS for both selfless and nefarious reasons.
The stock answer whenever someone asks about manipulating the BGS is 'have you looked here...' but as that is 622 pages long it might be a bit daunting.
Let us know which system you are in and, if you know, which faction you want to come to power.
There are lots of commanders out there who are willing to help manipulate the BGS for both selfless and nefarious reasons.
The stock answer whenever someone asks about manipulating the BGS is 'have you looked here...' but as that is 622 pages long it might be a bit daunting.
Let us know which system you are in and, if you know, which faction you want to come to power.
thanks for the link, will be reading that when i get home from work.
the system is Wolf 906, and i dont really care who is in charge, as long as the system becomes anarchy.
ive got some mates that are willing to help, so im not alone.
If you want anarchy you MUST care of who is in charge. You must do missions for the faction that have anarchy type of government.( I would suggest FD to change the term anarchy to liberals)
Basically you have to find a faction in your target system that has an Anarchy government and then help it come to power by raising it’s influence within the system. Then trigger a war with the controlling faction to take over the station. There are various ways to raise the influence but mission running is basically the best.
Anarchism and Liberalism are completely different ethea.
There is far too much of this Anarchy about this week!
I don't think we need anymore - Thank You Very Much!
I don't think we need anymore - Thank You Very Much!
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It think it might be better to ask in the BGS subforum, personally.
However, you might be wasting your time. Wolf 906 has the presence of a not-very-BGS-good player faction (an Empire patronage no less) and is a Hudson control system. It's also the base of two player groups (although their presence on Inara is limited.)
While I believe (I don't know - I'm not into Powerplay) that government type has no effect on fortification triggers in control systems (I believe, again, that it's the exploited systems that matter for this), flipping it might be akin to kicking a wasps' nest, so to speak. You should probably talk to the player groups involved in the system to see if you can reach an arrangement with them. Quid pro quo relationships are mutually beneficial - you might make a few friends and even get some help.
If you're confident that you can navigate that maze, then yeah - flipping a system is generally easy if you aren't being opposed. You need to run missions for Wolf 906 Gold Ring, then win any conflicts that might happen along the way. You will get into at least two wars as you do this - at least one with a non-controlling faction, and one for control of the system. Anarchy factions go to war with everyone and never enter into elections. Fortunately, you can use a war to boost influence past other factions: A faction can only be in one conflict state at any given time, but can leech influence from all factions in a system if their opponent is pushed to 0% influence in the conflict. You just keep entering the conflict zones, killing things, and handing in combat bonds. This will boost the influence of the faction you're supporting, and the influence has to come from somewhere - influence is a zero-sum game calculated on a per-system basis.
You were joking, right? Right?
However, you might be wasting your time. Wolf 906 has the presence of a not-very-BGS-good player faction (an Empire patronage no less) and is a Hudson control system. It's also the base of two player groups (although their presence on Inara is limited.)
While I believe (I don't know - I'm not into Powerplay) that government type has no effect on fortification triggers in control systems (I believe, again, that it's the exploited systems that matter for this), flipping it might be akin to kicking a wasps' nest, so to speak. You should probably talk to the player groups involved in the system to see if you can reach an arrangement with them. Quid pro quo relationships are mutually beneficial - you might make a few friends and even get some help.
If you're confident that you can navigate that maze, then yeah - flipping a system is generally easy if you aren't being opposed. You need to run missions for Wolf 906 Gold Ring, then win any conflicts that might happen along the way. You will get into at least two wars as you do this - at least one with a non-controlling faction, and one for control of the system. Anarchy factions go to war with everyone and never enter into elections. Fortunately, you can use a war to boost influence past other factions: A faction can only be in one conflict state at any given time, but can leech influence from all factions in a system if their opponent is pushed to 0% influence in the conflict. You just keep entering the conflict zones, killing things, and handing in combat bonds. This will boost the influence of the faction you're supporting, and the influence has to come from somewhere - influence is a zero-sum game calculated on a per-system basis.
That's hilarious!
You were joking, right? Right?
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That's exactly my point
Anarchy is absence of power, or government, etc. But in these systems there IS a power ruling. Difference is they don't follow the laws of the 3 big powers. So even if the term liberals isn't correct anarchy isn't either.
Then they should probably change the name to "kleptocracy" or "criminal".
The current behaviour of anarchy factions in the game has no connection to liberalism as a political philosophy since basically its inception in the 17th and 18th centuries.
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THAT'S IT CRIMINAL IS PERFECT. Or lawless
Hudson Control system?
The Silver Skulls PMF home system?
Public announcement of your intentions?
Potential target system for the Diamond Frogs?
https://eddb.io/system/factions/19208
I'm as keen as anyone to see the Feds lose another system.
But you know, "Good luck - you'll need it"
12thMonkey has pretty much nailed it. Give it a push and see if it moves, but if you're opposed don't waste your efforts.
Actually - If you want to see the growth of criminal factions, throw in your lot with Pirate Marra. She's running some interesting BGS projects for anarchy minor factions. I think she's north of Empire territory, but you'd learn a lot and I'm sure she could use more muscle.
The Silver Skulls PMF home system?
Public announcement of your intentions?
Potential target system for the Diamond Frogs?
https://eddb.io/system/factions/19208
I'm as keen as anyone to see the Feds lose another system.
But you know, "Good luck - you'll need it"
12thMonkey has pretty much nailed it. Give it a push and see if it moves, but if you're opposed don't waste your efforts.
Actually - If you want to see the growth of criminal factions, throw in your lot with Pirate Marra. She's running some interesting BGS projects for anarchy minor factions. I think she's north of Empire territory, but you'd learn a lot and I'm sure she could use more muscle.
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seeing they allready control Xihe, it would make a nice system for them to take over.
There are already nine(!) factions in Wolf 906 (the limit is thought to be seven, but yeah...), so they'd have to remove three of them and keep other factions from expanding in while they were filling up all other expansion targets from the closest DF-controlled system, which looks to be Xihe although I'm not in-game to check. It also looks like someone is doing a very good job of undermining the Frogs in Xihe itself - if a conflict isn't already pending, it will be on the next tick. That means they've got their hands full for the moment and won't be expanding from Xihe for, I'd guess, at least three weeks--and that's if they focus their efforts solely on Xihe. It's not even clear that they are playing at all these days, given that Xihe is their only high tech and they don't seem to be defending it.
In other words, I wouldn't expect help from the Diamond Frogs. They have bigger fish to fry right now.
DF won't be on the menu for quite a while - I'd suggest that it would mean a multi-month commitment from all parties, given the current situation. You need to understand the retreat mechanic and how simple it is to defeat, something which is even more pronounced in 3.0 with mission recipients gaining influence effects from missions. There's a modifier in the BGS which makes it easier to push influence in negative proportion to current influence. That means that the lower a faction's influence is, the easier it becomes to to push it up.
It will be far more immediately workable for you to just push the Gold Ring hard (that sounds wrong) and see what happens (and now it sounds worse).
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Miss Morgan!
Job opportunity....
Shoot me a PM, OP, we'll talk.
Job opportunity....
Shoot me a PM, OP, we'll talk.
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Oh.... Wolf 906 is a Hudson control system. You're going to want to do your research before embarking on that adventure, OP.
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And Xihe was a slog for them. It took months just to take it, and longer to hold it. And that was against a ragtag bunch of freedom fighters who refused to let go.
Depending on the fortification stats, you're potentially asking them to go up against another player fac AND Hudson PP. not to mention other player facs in the area.
When I first read your OP I was thinking the flipping of some third world system. You're instead talking about the annexation of California.
I'm not saying it's impossible. Depending on the factors it might even be easy. But unless you do your homework first, you're likely in for some surprises.
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The chickens were a lot better informed than you might think.
Not so much - the average traffic is pretty low, and most of it is randoms passing through.
Being informed matters. The way it is right now suggests that it would be an eminently flippable system in general circumstances (most wouldn't even notice), although now there's a thread on the forums about it...
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I know. I was one of them
It started out a cluster... But the chicks and their allies (especially their allies) got real smart, real fast. By the time I bounced, there were some mighty capable folks running that insurgency. Damn proud of those guys.
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