If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.

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Is it me or do Thargoid and Guardian tech look similar obviously Guardian tech looks machine created BUT still very similar. Could Thargoid's be the exiles come back to claim what's theirs and see humanity as abusers of nature?
 
I can't believe Taylor Swift hasn't chimed in on this dilemma yet, the silence is deafening!

I wish our community team were more like DE/Warframe's community team. Frontier could learn a lot.

It does make me wonder just what our CM's do we have 4, one off them could come in and say somthing about us all being a bit silly and its not going to happen, or not and contiune to let FD take a slapping in the face.
 
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The only way FDev can redeem themselves in my eyes is to demonstrate that they playtest their own product without command line shortcuts

Gosh! I bet All the staff at Frontier had "redeeming themselves in your eyes" as their TOP priority this morning when they came into work...
Do you not think that sounds monstrously entitled???
 

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Nice. ED didn't work out for you four years ago, that's not a big deal it's just a video game.

Maybe you should look for a new hobby.

Stigbob, here's some things you seem fundamentally unable to grasp:

1) if it's "just a game" why do fanboys, spend so much time defending it - including you - if it matters little? Surely if the outcome of the game, and it's forumites had such little meaning to you, why are you even here? The fact that you are, repeatedly, shows that you are just as interested in what's going on as everyone else, so you're "it's just a video game" act isn't fooling anyone.

2) This game would not exist without my money - mine and everyone elses who stumped up in the KS - some of them many many thousands. One backer in particular with extra's ship models (that turned out to be very poorly made and 4 years late) backed ED to more than £10,000 GBP. Now, I'm not saying those who backed the game's posts are worth more, but the phrase "just a video game" is incredibly dismissive of that.

3) I'd also point out that there are features highlighted in the KS that are STILL M.I.A.

And until such time as they appear I'm not playing, because I'm not the kind of person who is happy to "wipe thier save 5 times" just to experience the next bit of content.

There are many posts of people who have been playing since launch who have stopped or taken very long breaks, and only come back for a week or two to experience the new stuff, then leave again. I can't imagine how disappointing and disjointed that must feel for them, and they will only do that so many times before it becomes somethign they can no longer care enough to do - and with FDevs slow delivery of content, it could well be that they stop returning BEFORE the last major content is implemented.

I'm a patient guy and I can wait, assuming I don't die first of the conjenital heart issues our family seems to have.

When FDev said they were gong to be working on ED for years to come - I foolishly assumed it was going to be more like the MMO's whereby the "main" game is delivered with other flavors of content added later; as is what normally happens.

What I didn't expect was FDev to take 4 years and counting just to implement what has been done so far, with what I consider major sections of the game experience missing, planetary landings being just one of those.

People like you keep saying "if the game didn't work out for you, move on" and my reply to that is "the game I was told about 6 years ago, doesn't exist yet, so I'm waiting until it does" with the added caveat that I'll continue to poke FDev with a stick until they deliver; and deliver something better than placeholder after placeholder.

PS - ED forums are not my hobby - I scan them once to twice a day while I'm having a break from my work - most of the stuff I ignore as it's all been beaten to death before, but topics on NEW CONTENT that isn't making the players happy, gets my interest and I'll post.

Call my posts rambling drivel if you like - they are still more in tune and cogniscent of what's going on in the community than yours and don't have ridiculous phrases like "you're not allowed to talk about what you've not personally experienced" because that applies to pretty much everyone on earth; just where did you think all that "knowledge" in your head came from?
 
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Gosh! I bet All the staff at Frontier had "redeeming themselves in your eyes" as their TOP priority this morning when they came into work...
Do you not think that sounds monstrously entitled???

Well their QA seems to have taken a significant dive, among many other issues. So we should be falling over ourselves to congratulate them for the likes of CQC, Powerplay and RNGineers? I think they're currently doing a pretty bad job. If they had a bit more contact with the community maybe they'd be less inclined to keep feeding us griiiiinnnndddd.
 
There are many posts of people who have been playing since launch who have stopped or taken very long breaks, and only come back for a week or two to experience the new stuff, then leave again.

WHAT ?!?!? in a world where hundreds of immersive, fantastic quality video games exist each jockeying for your valuable time...are you SERIOUSLY telling me that People who've played Elite for Hundreds or even Thousands of hours (so given purchase of Elite + Horizons would give a cost of say about 10 pence per hour) choose then to go on and enjoy ANOTHER video game that offers a new/different gaming experience...perhaps dropping back to "an old favourite" to experience key new features when an update is released...
I'm genuinely SHOCKED...I bet Frontier never factored THAT into their business model...counting instead, on people buying Elite Dangerous and then playing it constantly...never booting up another title for the next 5 - 6 years...
 
Stigbob, here's some things you seem fundamentally unable to grasp:

1) if it's "just a game" why do fanboys, spend so much time defending it - including you - if it matters little? Surely if the outcome of the game, and it's forumites had such little meaning to you, why are you even here? The fact that you are, repeatedly, shows that you are just as interested in what's going on as everyone else, so you're "it's just a video game" act isn't fooling anyone. I don't read the forums of almost all the other games that I play, and that is likely the same for many other posters here.

2) This game would not exist without my money - mine and everyone elses who stumped up in the KS - some of them many many thousands. One backer in particular with extra's ship models (that turned out to be very poorly made and 4 years late) backed ED to more than £10,000 GBP. Now, I'm not saying those who backed the game's posts are worth more, but the phrase "just a video game" is incredibly dismissive of that.

3) I'd also point out that there are features highlighted in the KS that are STILL M.I.A.

And until such time as they appear I'm not playing, because I'm not the kind of person who is happy to "wipe thier save 5 times" just to experience the next bit of content.

There are many posts of people who have been playing since launch who have stopped or taken very long breaks, and only come back for a week or two to experience the new stuff, then leave again. I can't imagine how disappointing and disjointed that must feel for them, and they will only do that so many times before it becomes somethign they can no longer care enough to do - and with FDevs slow delivery of content, it could well be that they stop returning BEFORE the last major content is implemented.

I'm a patient guy and I can wait, assuming I don't die first of the conjenital heart issues our family seems to have.

When FDev said they were gong to be working on ED for years to come - I foolishly assumed it was going to be more like the MMO's whereby the "main" game is delivered with other flavors of content added later; as is what normally happens.

What I didn't expect was FDev to take 4 years and counting just to implement what has been done so far, with what I consider major sections of the game experience missing, planetary landings being just one of those.

People like you keep saying "if the game didn't work out for you, move on" and my reply to that is "the game I was told about 6 years ago, doesn't exist yet, so I'm waiting until it does" with the added caveat that I'll continue to poke FDev with a stick until they deliver; and deliver something better than placeholder after placeholder.

PS - ED forums are not my hobby - I scan them once to twice a day while I'm having a break from my work - most of the stuff I ignore as it[s all been beaten to death before, but tpoics on NEW CONTENT that isn't making the players happy gets my interest and I'll post.

Call my posts rambling drivel if you like - they are still more in tune and cogniscent of what's going on in the community than yours and don't have ridiculous phrases like "you're not allowed to talk about what you've not personally experienced" because that applies to pretty much everyone on earth; just where did you think all that "knowledge" in your head came from?

You don't actually know if you like the game, you haven't played it since 2014. There's also the fact that it's been out four years, there may be additions in future but there will be no "game-changer" alterations now. The game is what it is.

Video games cost £30, if you splurged £10,000 on one that really is your problem.

Have trading standards got back to you yet ?.
 
The silence from FDev is deafening, it seems that the passion and love for ED was left behind at the old headquarters along with the 49% stake sale, it certainly looks to me that FDev are doing a 'Bungie'.

Fdev are starting to look cowardly at this point as the official response to this thread was 'can't with rural broadband' is bordering on pathetic and ignorant. I believe the reason they will ignore this request is that they don't want to embarrass themselves on a live stream with their own stale and lazy product.

Precisely my thoughts.

There have been so many threads, so many issues raised, so many discussions and call outs where FDEV didn't bother to post. Fine, I thought, they shouldn't be expected to dive into all mosh pits on this forum. In fact, a lot of times it is better to just stay away.

But now you have a thread about a serious issue, titled "If FDEV something something, I'll eat my eye patch", you see the orange FDEV post icon, you expect a reply but you get this. It stings a little.

I also get the same feeling when the forum is teeming with serious issue threads or bug reports but the only FDEV replies you can find are to threads about "I reached Master today", or "Stunning screenshot from system X".


Really FDEV, when someone rings the doorbell and you just can't be bothered to answer it, its better to pretend you're not home instead of turning the TV volume to max.
 
The silence from FDev is deafening, it seems that the passion and love for ED was left behind at the old headquarters along with the 49% stake sale, it certainly looks to me that FDev are doing a 'Bungie'.

What do you want them to say? Anything they say that isn't what people want to hear (ie: Ok, sorry guys, we will reduce the grind) will be met with scorn.

If they are happy with it, and have no immediate plans to change it, saying so will just end up with more shouty shouty.

Personally, i do wish FD were more active on the forums, getting into threads, discussing things, repeating past messages to reaffirm their stance on matters or to let people know when they have changed their minds.

However, in the case of a thread like this, a challenge to the devs, i understand 100% why they won't get involved. There is another thread around here discussing the issue of the guardian grind in a slightly more constructive manner and a lot less childlike in demands.
 
Its a space simulation involving more or less powerful starships so putting end-game content behind a grind wall involving driving a buggy over some rocky place shooting stuff, which I find one of the least enjoyable/most annoying things to do in the game, is very poor game design. Having to do it over and over again is worse and incredibly stupid! The sound game design choice would have been to put up a series (you could do this over months) of Guardian related CGs to unlock Guardian technology for everyone..
 
Its a space simulation involving more or less powerful starships so putting end-game content behind a grind wall involving driving a buggy over some rocky place shooting stuff, which I find one of the least enjoyable/most annoying things to do in the game, is very poor game design. Having to do it over and over again is worse and incredibly stupid! The sound game design choice would have been to put up a series (you could do this over months) of Guardian related CGs to unlock Guardian technology for everyone..

It's not only poor game design, it's also very lazy imho.
Oh this is a nice thing we came up with, now just change this value so they'll have to do it xx number of times untill they get the price.
Lazy imho.
 
Personally, i do wish FD were more active on the forums, getting into threads, discussing things, repeating past messages to reaffirm their stance on matters or to let people know when they have changed their minds.

I was just thinking that FDev has been mighty quiet in the forums lately. Perhaps it's the move, PAX, and weekend meet-ups, but someone from Frontier should remain "on guard" here in the forums...

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The silence from FDev is deafening, it seems that the passion and love for ED was left behind at the old headquarters along with the 49% stake sale, it certainly looks to me that FDev are doing a 'Bungie'.

Fdev are starting to look cowardly at this point as the official response to this thread was 'can't with rural broadband' is bordering on pathetic and ignorant. I believe the reason they will ignore this request is that they don't want to embarrass themselves on a live stream with their own stale and lazy product.

The only way FDev can redeem themselves in my eyes is to demonstrate that they playtest their own product without command line shortcuts which they cannot or will not facilitate, well if you are going to be that ignorant towards the community then my wallet will be just as ignorant towards Fdev.


I also agree with that. And they really do not play they own game, otherwise they would surely have already changed the course of the bad gameplay decisions that they subsequently take.
 

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Or, it could just very simply be a case of bad game design. Lots of games in the industry suffer from poor design, managed by people who don't understand what makes a game "fun" to play. And sometimes fun is just a much lower priority than other things, even when that approach is toxic to a games health.

It can be the lack of skill to do it as well.

I recently looked to see if Euro Truck Simulaltor did AI cars in MP. It seems as though it still doesn't with people saying "it's too hard and would cause too much lag"

This is outright nonsense of course and I can say that because all I need to do is point to game like GTA or any other driving game that manages to do it. So it seems that ETS lack the skill to make it happen rather than, incorrectly, it can't happen unless ETS has some kind of magic spell cast on it that doesn't allow AI cars to work. GTA has hundreds of AI pedestrians too and the AI cars have different behaviours.

So not all devs know how to do everything.
 
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