Do you ever stop being a fan-boy, by any chance?
If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.
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Yes it was working. Sure it has bugs, but please show me a major update to a game that doesn't. I think you will find that they all have bug, things that don't work, items with the wrong stats, skill that may not work properly. It is pretty standard among most games, why would you think that FDev would be any different.
Funny, I don’t recall entire mission categories being wiped from the galaxy for weeks at a time before...
Anyone that stoops as low as to call people fanboy isn't really worth engaging in a converstation. People usually fall back on petty insults because they don't have an answer.
I am no fanboy, I just say it how I see it. I have played enough games and played enough MMO's to see what happens with big updates to know that bugs like those are pretty common.
I don't want the bugs as much as anyone else. But to expect the impossible is just being stupid.
You have to admit 3.0 is the most solid update so far, it was pretty much bug free from beta, at first inspection at least.
All I see you do in every thread is try to defend FDev, even when they definitely don’t deserve any defense. You also ridicule anyone who legitimately tells it like it is.
Whether you like it or not, criticism of FDev is constructive feedback. Mindlessly supporting every decision they make is not.
LOL. You obviously havent read many of my posts. I also don't ridicule anyone who legitimately tells it like it is, as it is generally an opinion and opinions vary. Or am I not allowed to have a different opinion and only allowed to kiss your butt.
Your hypocrisy know no bounds does it. I voice a different opinion (I did not and have never ridiculed anyone apart from when people lie about me) and you ridicule me as a fanboy.
Whether you like it or not, I critisise a lot of stuff FDev have done or haven't done but should have and give contructive views on how it could be improved upon. So yes I also agree that contructuve critisism is good.
I don't think I have ever tried to defend FDev, and I wasn't then either. I was just tyring to put stuff into persepective and compare it to other large MMO games, was there something wrong with that?
I also like to play devils advocate. People come up with some negative FDev views, I come up with a positive one, which is just as valid, not saying its true though as I don't really know and neither does the other person.
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Don't talk to stroppy customers relay them to customer services is normal for pretty much everywhere, as is mocking them in things like patch notes.
They changed engineers to put in a grind ceiling after looking at the metrics and thinking "some players will make themselves ill unless we stop them".
this might be just me but with the introduction of engineers and the bread crumbs leading to ruins etc most people knew something was coming, we just didn't know what.
spent a while engineering ships for the inevitable invasion it had a lot of hype at the time.
then we got a cut scene encounter and new weapons that completely wiped out the need for engineering in the 1st place. other than because you can.
thargoid content should never have been hidden behind a grind wall of new weapons etc. it should have been added to the engineers to make it all a little more entertaining and meaning full.
i could spend the next 4 weeks engineering my ship or exploring some deep space somewhere but why?
the core has been pretty much the same since day one scan shoot scoop repeat.
knowing that at some point they are going to rework exploring means you might as well wait until they do or find out you've just wasted the last few months etc.
all the time they keep making large scale changes with little consideration to it's impact on entertainment and the grind i don't see the point.
seems like maintenance mode until Q4 maybe they are hoping that JP will be stable then and require less work meaning they can finally concentrate on ED.
Complaining isn't compulsory, it's not a character flaw to concentrate on positives.
This thread isn't constructive anyway, it's got loads of dev bashing, someone who wants to sue them and even some nutcase saying go round to the office.
Ach it’s the internet - there’s always gonna be crazies. If you think that one or two dafties here means that FDEV can legitimately avoid responding to criticism then you’re mistaken in my opinion.
That said, I think both sides could do with responding to each other without polarizing the arguments and labeling each other but I’m prone to idealism.
I also think FDEV should comment on the issues on this thread but I don’t think they will because they don’t really have a leg to stand on, at least as far as the guardian ruins puzzle goes.
The fact that they didn’t even try to fob the issue off with a: ‘we’re listening and we’ll take this on board. No promises. No ETAs.’ special of theirs is telling too. They know how it would make them look. Ignoring it and hoping it gets locked after some posts like those above would be ideal for FDEV, I say ideal - I’m not convinced they’re overly fussed what we think anymore anyway.
Man but I really wish people would stop buying those lazy paint jobs. That might get some attention or at least get this lame horse put down once and for all so we don’t have to put up with anymore pretending.
Ignoring the rest of the drivel, this right here is your problem. You see a large group of people agreeing on a topic, then go in and disagree for the sake of it?
I just reply like with like. Someone accuses me of ridiculing people while ridiculing me, I tell them where to stick it.
Agreed. I don't like it and any comment would be something.
I am not so sure, but they can't ignore it. It's meant to be a "personal narrative" and feels nothing like a personal narrative. Something needs to be done and changed.
I haven't bought one for a while. Some are pretty bad.
Disagree with what though. People should stop talking about it as a fact then if it is an opinion. I don't disagree for the sake of it. It's called trying to get people to think a bit more constuctively and openly. There is nothing wrong with that. The only time I do that is when people start going "ED is in maintenance mode", "It is Minimum Viable Product", "ED is a cash cow and they are milking us". Half the people don't even know what the terms mean and when I try to explain the meaning to them, I am just a fanboy and white knight.
And being devils advocate is not disagreeing with someone. It's showing them how things can be interperated very differently with just a small tweak to your mindset. Again when doing that I mostly say that they maybe right but they may not be as the little facts we have can point to a plethora of different reasons why things are the way they are.
This is a discussion forum, are we not allowed to discuss anything unless we all agree with each other. It that was the case then there would be no need for any discussion. It doesn't have to go down the route of "if you don't agree with my point of view you are just a fanboy or white knight", which is exactly what you are doing with me.
Treat people how you would want to be treated and then hopefully you will be treated in kind. Ridicule, lie and deride them for thinking differently like calling people fanboy and white knight, well don't expect to be treated with any respect if you can't give any yourself.
And I see you are still deriding me (saying what I have written is drivel when it is the truth). You are such a hypocite it is unreal.
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Brett just responded to the INARA thread, if you want to go get his attention, now’s your chance.
Each to his/her own. I think FDEV will never touch this thread and if a dev did they'd be told not to do it again.
If they had the slightest concern about the existence of this thread they'd just shut it down, it's their forum they can do what they like. The fact that they haven't responded or closed it means it's a largely a non-issue for them.
I see the same old names whinging that grind hurts, ignoring any advice to try a different approach and failing to see that their choices are optional.
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