30 is the average age of the gamer across all platforms. PC gamers tend to be older.
IGN's 25 PC Games to Play in 2014 - No ED?
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30 is the average age of the gamer across all platforms. PC gamers tend to be older.
Now that is a blast from the past. Setting Interrupts.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Indeed.
Man, I can remember trying to squeeze stuff into high memory to free up enough RAM to run my stuff. "Hmm...do I really need to load mouse.sys for this? Nah, I don't need a mouse in this game."
You kids and your new fangled technology, pah floppy drives, PCs and the like. You weren't there if you haven't loaded games off audio cassettes and used LensLok
You kids and your new fangled technology, pah floppy drives, PCs and the like. You weren't there if you haven't loaded games off audio cassettes and used LensLok
Yep, did that too. Poxy lenslok was hopeless, often got the code wrong 3 times in a row, then having another 7 minutes loading the game again, if it didn't crash on load.
R - Tape Loading Error
<screen flash>...
© 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd.
<scream!>
See, that's where you went wrong.
And so we find ourselves standing on the brink of a whole new chasm of off-topic
See, that's where you went wrong.
And so we find ourselves standing on the brink of a whole new chasm of off-topic
Hehehe, also plagued one of my friends who had it on the BBC, I was constantly bugging him to have a go. It was far more responsive on the beeb. Still, I had many hundreds of hours of fun on the speccy.
You kids and your new fangled technology, pah floppy drives, PCs and the like. You weren't there if you haven't loaded games off audio cassettes and used LensLok
I was. Lenslok. Forgot about all that nonsense.
Not sure about LensLok, but I had plenty of fun finding games on my TRASH-80... Ok, rewind. Now fast forward to 123. Ok, now type in load command. Press play. Wait... Success? NO. Ok, must have gone too far..
Today's generation of 8 year olds have it way too easy... Plus they may never play such classics as "Outhouse" and experience the joys of defending your toilet paper...
Today's generation of 8 year olds have it way too easy... Plus they may never play such classics as "Outhouse" and experience the joys of defending your toilet paper...
Never played, or indeed heard of Outhouse, but looks interesting and I'll see if I can give it a go.
Advanced Lawnmower Simulator now, that is a classic lost on the console kiddies. A real shame.
Advanced Lawnmower Simulator now, that is a classic lost on the console kiddies. A real shame.
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did anyone ever play "Mrs Mop"?
There would be an outcry if it was released today. You were a cleaner and the tag line was "A woman's work is never done"
lol in response to OP ...
this is ign we are talking about
this is ign we are talking about
Okay new theory, new rant. Please don't get mad, I do want to step on your toes but only ever so lightly
Elite Dangerous could be the MMO for introverts. Introvert doesn't mean they don't want to be social or don't want to play online, they just don't want to be part of a clan. They want to meet other players, have fun and meaningful encounters, chat with them. Introverts just don't get off on being part of a bunch of testosterone locked meatheads. They dislike "guild drama" but are often the cause of it. They can live with single player only, but they'd welcome MMO gameplay - as long as it's the equivalent of old farts sitting in an exclusive 18th century gentlemans club
But is this mutually exclusive? I don't think so. Why should it? The universe is a big place.
I have the feeling that the current backers in the forum want to "lock down" the game from ever straying off this idea of the lone wolf traveling among the stars. They are willing to vote down social features to keep "those sniveling kiddies" out of their community. Beware the slippery slope! They are exclusive, they want the ivory tower to shut out every modern influence, they adopt the wrong meaning of the word "Elite": A privileged group of people who stand above the crowds, special because they where there when gaming wasn't mainstream yet. A faithful recreation of Elite. The hippies have gone conservative. The only thing left would be if they complain that the new music the kids are listening to is trash. Oh wait, you guys just did that hehe. Poor justin, all he ever wanted is to sing!
But that is the wrong tactic, and you cannot wonder why SC got unlimited cash and ED doesn't. "Space sim fans will flock to ED on release". Balderdash! Space sim fans already flocked to SC, you have the hard numbers! SC is winning the marketing and PR game. It doesn't matter that it's "just talk", it's a fact.
David Braben is doing his own thing, creating the game he wants to play, and I have all the confidence he and the FD team will stay true to the principles that we all love about Elite as a game. But the old audience of Elite / FE2 / FFE just won't be enough to develop ED into the game we all want through the expansions.
Why don't they cater to a larger audience? Things like good guild support is planned for an expansion, and groups of players will have larger influence on the evolving universe. This was said by FD, but it's kept on the down low. Why? Peer pressure? How ironic!
Maybe FD is just focusing on developing the best game they can. But lack of dedicated PR is diminishing ED's potential.
For example, FD hasn't talked much about how multiplayer missions will work. ED could potentially be VASTLY superior to all previous MMOs in this regard, always new interesting things to do for guilds or friends instead of the same instances and raids over and over. Maybe even story arcs and campaigns that are specific to each guild! The WoW crowd would love that. Procedural missions and story has potential that IMHO should be talked about more. I know it's a tough sell. But all those WoW players are looking for something new instead of the same old. ED only would have to cater a little bit more to them in order to capture this audience.
Why not talk more about the different cultures that inhabit and get simulated in the eliteverse? Their quirks, characteristics and effects on the evolving universe. That is a story that that journalists outside the gaming press might be able to sell, a game that simulates the battle of ideas, the clash of societies that are religious, atheist, rich or poor, democratic or corrupt, oppressive or free. Can there ever be peace? And who cares if it's gonna be in the first release, just talk. Talk is cheap.
Why not model some cute furry pets you can keep in your cockpit? Put some renderings out there. And will there be romance in ED? Why is almost every robust healthy boy with a robust healthy soul in him, at some time or other crazy to go to sea?
/rant
Elite Dangerous could be the MMO for introverts. Introvert doesn't mean they don't want to be social or don't want to play online, they just don't want to be part of a clan. They want to meet other players, have fun and meaningful encounters, chat with them. Introverts just don't get off on being part of a bunch of testosterone locked meatheads. They dislike "guild drama" but are often the cause of it. They can live with single player only, but they'd welcome MMO gameplay - as long as it's the equivalent of old farts sitting in an exclusive 18th century gentlemans club
But is this mutually exclusive? I don't think so. Why should it? The universe is a big place.
I have the feeling that the current backers in the forum want to "lock down" the game from ever straying off this idea of the lone wolf traveling among the stars. They are willing to vote down social features to keep "those sniveling kiddies" out of their community. Beware the slippery slope! They are exclusive, they want the ivory tower to shut out every modern influence, they adopt the wrong meaning of the word "Elite": A privileged group of people who stand above the crowds, special because they where there when gaming wasn't mainstream yet. A faithful recreation of Elite. The hippies have gone conservative. The only thing left would be if they complain that the new music the kids are listening to is trash. Oh wait, you guys just did that hehe. Poor justin, all he ever wanted is to sing!
But that is the wrong tactic, and you cannot wonder why SC got unlimited cash and ED doesn't. "Space sim fans will flock to ED on release". Balderdash! Space sim fans already flocked to SC, you have the hard numbers! SC is winning the marketing and PR game. It doesn't matter that it's "just talk", it's a fact.
David Braben is doing his own thing, creating the game he wants to play, and I have all the confidence he and the FD team will stay true to the principles that we all love about Elite as a game. But the old audience of Elite / FE2 / FFE just won't be enough to develop ED into the game we all want through the expansions.
Why don't they cater to a larger audience? Things like good guild support is planned for an expansion, and groups of players will have larger influence on the evolving universe. This was said by FD, but it's kept on the down low. Why? Peer pressure? How ironic!
Maybe FD is just focusing on developing the best game they can. But lack of dedicated PR is diminishing ED's potential.
For example, FD hasn't talked much about how multiplayer missions will work. ED could potentially be VASTLY superior to all previous MMOs in this regard, always new interesting things to do for guilds or friends instead of the same instances and raids over and over. Maybe even story arcs and campaigns that are specific to each guild! The WoW crowd would love that. Procedural missions and story has potential that IMHO should be talked about more. I know it's a tough sell. But all those WoW players are looking for something new instead of the same old. ED only would have to cater a little bit more to them in order to capture this audience.
Why not talk more about the different cultures that inhabit and get simulated in the eliteverse? Their quirks, characteristics and effects on the evolving universe. That is a story that that journalists outside the gaming press might be able to sell, a game that simulates the battle of ideas, the clash of societies that are religious, atheist, rich or poor, democratic or corrupt, oppressive or free. Can there ever be peace? And who cares if it's gonna be in the first release, just talk. Talk is cheap.
Why not model some cute furry pets you can keep in your cockpit? Put some renderings out there. And will there be romance in ED? Why is almost every robust healthy boy with a robust healthy soul in him, at some time or other crazy to go to sea?
/rant
Please stop using the word "guild". There is no such concept in E: D, and that is a Good Thing.
I kinda stop reading any post immediately that has the "g" word in it, which is a pity because you might actually have some good points.
SC has an early lead, sure, but it's all hot air at the moment. In terms of backers, all that matters is that E: D has enough money to get made. It does. The real proof will come when both games are out there, doing their thing, for a couple of years or more. I've backed both, and I'm interested in how SC will turn out, but it could just be like every other Chris Roberts WC game - all glitz and no substance. E: D I know will have substance. SC... who knows?
It's also quite hard to visualise multiplayer-only missions when a large part of the current playerbase consider E: D to be a solo affair with multiplayer elements. However, David Braben has talked about a few times how a large group of people could destabilise a system with concerted action - or prevent / cause a famine, etc.
Saying "The WoW crowd would love that" as an argument for including something in E: D strikes me as a perfect reason not to do it. I don't want the "WoW crowd" in E: D, thanks.
I kinda stop reading any post immediately that has the "g" word in it, which is a pity because you might actually have some good points.
SC has an early lead, sure, but it's all hot air at the moment. In terms of backers, all that matters is that E: D has enough money to get made. It does. The real proof will come when both games are out there, doing their thing, for a couple of years or more. I've backed both, and I'm interested in how SC will turn out, but it could just be like every other Chris Roberts WC game - all glitz and no substance. E: D I know will have substance. SC... who knows?
It's also quite hard to visualise multiplayer-only missions when a large part of the current playerbase consider E: D to be a solo affair with multiplayer elements. However, David Braben has talked about a few times how a large group of people could destabilise a system with concerted action - or prevent / cause a famine, etc.
Saying "The WoW crowd would love that" as an argument for including something in E: D strikes me as a perfect reason not to do it. I don't want the "WoW crowd" in E: D, thanks.
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While I can understand your point, I'm backing Elite precisely because it's not full of snivelling WOW players.
Such creatures would never be admitted to a gentlemans club
Anyone proposing their name would be met with aghast looks, a dropped monocle or two, and probably some spilled cognac.
The game will be made for the market FD wants it to have. I'm all for that. If it captures the mainstream imagination the that's great, however I wouldn't like it to become anything like Xbox live.
Such creatures would never be admitted to a gentlemans club
Anyone proposing their name would be met with aghast looks, a dropped monocle or two, and probably some spilled cognac.
The game will be made for the market FD wants it to have. I'm all for that. If it captures the mainstream imagination the that's great, however I wouldn't like it to become anything like Xbox live.
Yaffle
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Nope, it's just because we don't see the need for guilds, so there is no support mechanism for them here.
There is no need for a support mechanism because the real world has plenty; and there is no facility to make a "gang hut" because there is no need to have such a place, it adds nothing to the game the game does not already have. Want to meet your mates online, cool! All arrange to be at Ross 128 at 1900GMT. Easy. No need for anything else. Enjoy flying together. How splendid.
Just because it's online doesn't mean it has to have guilds.
Just because other online games have guilds doesn't mean they will work here, or are needed here.
There is no "planned" support for guilds, the closest we have to that is it's something that may (important word there) I repeat, may be considered for a future expansion.
Is that so hard to grasp?