General / Off-Topic I'm curious - do any Flat Earthers from anywhere around the globe play Elite : Dangerous?

Doesn't explain how some of the more influential nutters actually make a living out of it though. [sad]

How do preachers make money on TV? Unfortunately the answer is not nice. People buy into all-sorts.
 
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Terry Pratchett, got quite a bit of attention.

Pratchett was into satire. The idea of the world riding on the back of a turtle was originally conceived by Hindu and Chinese mythology.

However he can get all the attention he likes. Personally, he was a masterful writer and a genius where comedy was concerned.
 

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This is what I'd like to think too; that it's just people trolling.

Doesn't explain how some of the more influential nutters actually make a living out of it though. [sad]

The same way that Huffington Post and Breitbart make a living off of sensationalism. It sells. People like to watch train wrecks.
 
Speaking as someone who has had to defend science literacy from our local Biblical literalists, who were demanding that our local schools "teach the controversy," there are people out there that actually believe the Earth is flat. This is despite being able to do simple experiments, some of which were performed nearly 2400 ago, that demonstrate that the Earth is a sphere.

There is a world of difference between keeping an open mind, and having such an open mind that your brain falls out.
 
Nevah hoid of em

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English fantasy/satire/humour writer. Was good friends with Neil Gaiman (author of american gods). Wrote the book "Good Omens" with him.

Passed away in 2015 due to alzheimers. A very intelligent and funny guy. His most well known books were the Discworld Series.

Remembered in Elite Dangerous. Visit HIP 74290 to see his station (Pratchett's Disc) :)
 
As the title says .... or asks really .... I'm curious - do any Flat Earthers from anywhere around the globe play Elite : Dangerous?

For some reason the concept of a 'Flat Earth' seems to have popped up again around the recent eclipse seen across America. Ironically one of the best bits of eclipse video I saw was actually from someone stating how it was due to a flat earth and there is some sort of hoax going on ... ? ... No, I didn't understand it either.

Anyway, I thought the flat earth idea was dead and buried long ago, but some of them have recently popped up again on the internet all around the globe! (yes, the classic line ....!) :)

I tend to believe that most 'flat earth' people are in it for the laughs and trolling people, unfortunately, they are a continual phenomenon, and not an internet thing, but even so I'm clinging to that fact, because I cannot wrap my mind around some people truly believing these things.
 
Flat earthers... ack, disgusting.

Cant believe that after billions of years matter has to be wasted on them.
 
Yes there are many dumb flat Earth folk out there and there are many dumb Round Earth people out there.

There are no "round Earth people", the Earth is round whether anyone believes it or not.

The idea that you should not believe anything without first-hand evidence is bizarre. I'm not able to do experiments that prove that my cold symptoms are caused by a virus. Does that mean I should be sceptical of this? It is perfectly valid to reply on secondary sources for information, as long as you treat those sources critically. That's why peer review exists - to help us sort the good sources from the bad.

The movement (and not the generalist nonsense) has a purpose at heart which demands that scientist prove beyond any doubt all received fact is evidence and unshakeable.

Then this movement is utterly ignorant of how science works. Scientists gather the best evidence available and present a theory based on that evidence. If new evidence emerges that falsifies that theory, a good scientist discards the theory in favour of a new one. It is absolutely not the job of science or scientists to produce "unshakeable" theories.
 
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Not many folk realize that flat earth movement is a very clever existentialist devil's advocate group of scientist (with a heck of a lot of dumb followers). Part of the fundamental mission statement is to test scientific theory and fact beyond a doubt, meaning personal 1st hand understanding. 'Flat Earth' being a metaphor for the endevour. The movement (and not the generalist nonsense) has a purpose at heart which demands that scientist prove beyond any doubt all received fact is evidence and unshakeable. 'Flat Earth' eeejits (not sure of the technical term) are as correct as many of 'the world is round' believers because both sides have just accepted something they have been told by an authority without conducting any scientific experimentation themselves to prove or disprove a common belief.

Yes there are many dumb flat Earth folk out there and there are many dumb Round Earth people out there. The point is dont take someone elses ideas as truth without 1st hand evidence. Standing steadfast by common sense is not the same as good sense.

As can be seen in the follwing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLZntSdyKE

Scientific theory is always with some doubt and no one can have 1st hand understanding of EVERYTHING. A physicist will have to believe his doctor and his doctor will have to trust the architect of his house. We all have to take people's word to some extent.

Critical thinking is a great thing to teach, but that doesn't sound like it.
 
Not to mention the arguments raised by flat-earthers are pretty wild, far-fetched and absurd. I prefer Ocham's Razor myself. The tens of thousands of boats "provided by the UN needed to patrol the edge of the earth from people finding the truth" seem a wee bit far fetched to me.

^ This. Not only would maintaining the illusion of a round earth be extremely expensive and difficult, it appears to lack any possible motive. What possible advantage could fooling everyone into thinking the earth is a different shape bring anyone? No one would put so much effort or time or money into something unless it really paid to do so. What's the angle here?
 
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Many people that believe that the earth is flat are religious so it is very easy for them to believe that the Earth is flat when they see something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEZ7GgXPUck

Watching that video... I actually felt that my intelligence was being ripped out of my body and brain. It hurt.

I have no problems with religious people who also have an open mind about science. Those that don't = cultists, imho.
 
Not many folk realize that flat earth movement is a very clever existentialist devil's advocate group of scientist (with a heck of a lot of dumb followers). Part of the fundamental mission statement is to test scientific theory and fact beyond a doubt, meaning personal 1st hand understanding. 'Flat Earth' being a metaphor for the endevour. The movement (and not the generalist nonsense) has a purpose at heart which demands that scientist prove beyond any doubt all received fact is evidence and unshakeable. 'Flat Earth' eeejits (not sure of the technical term) are as correct as many of 'the world is round' believers because both sides have just accepted something they have been told by an authority without conducting any scientific experimentation themselves to prove or disprove a common belief.

Yes there are many dumb flat Earth folk out there and there are many dumb Round Earth people out there. The point is dont take someone elses ideas as truth without 1st hand evidence. Standing steadfast by common sense is not the same as good sense.

As can be seen in the follwing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLZntSdyKE

I hope this is true, I'd love there to be such a movement. It sounds similar of the church of the flying spaghetti monster.

Trouble is, you only need to go to sea in a boat, or fly in a plane to see the curve of the world. But the principle of scientific evidence is very much misunderstood. Some people actually think anecdotal evidence counts.
 
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No need to do that - just look out across the sea ( or a really big lake ) ...

True.

Though one of the more common arguments I've seen from flat earth believers concerns images at that level. Since said objections are centered around camera sources - their main issue being NASA - that's why I like my example... it tends to completely urinate on their little fire. Ask them to do the same and prove otherwise and it's amazing what excuses pop up.

"I don't need to prove anything to you" is the first and foremost. Says it all really. :D

BTW: All hail the hypno-toad.
 
There are no "round Earth people", the Earth is round whether anyone believes it or not.

Can you prove it without any reference to another source?

The idea that you should not believe anything without first-hand evidence is bizarre.

So a belief in pixies that mend sock, a invisible omnipresent deity and Santa that comes down the chimney to deliver presents to children who have behaved in the local cultures deintifion of status quo (jang jang) is totally fine without evidence?

I'm not able to do experiments that prove that my cold symptoms are caused by a virus. Does that mean I should be sceptical of this?

Yes. Same as people who thought bleeding, leeches, bad humors and so forth were cures for common ailments

It is perfectly valid to reply on secondary sources for information, as long as you treat those sources critically.

Which answers your question "Does that mean I should be sceptical of this?"

That's why peer review exists - to help us sort the good sources from the bad.

If your peers are all Flat Earth People would they be right just because the agree with each other?

Once many people belived the world was flat. One chap proved to himself the world was round. So all the clever scientst at the time were wrong and the people who couldnt work stuff out for thme selves followed the next set of thought.


So here's something folk might find fun. Take some time and go for a walk and prove to yourself that the world is round and not flat without referencing someone else to get your truth.

Then this movement is utterly ignorant about how science works "Im not able to do experiments that prove...". Scientists gather the best evidence available and present a theory based on that evidence. If new evidence emerges that falsifies that theory, a good scientist discards the theory in favour of a new one. It is absolutely not the job of science or scientists to produce "unshakeable" theories.
It's all good fun,

Most importantly fancy a pint?

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