All I am saying is hat eliminating board flipping is the prerequisite for any downstream balance improvement of the mission system. That does not mean that we'll see any such improvements, and of course, it's always possible to make it worse.
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All I am saying is hat eliminating board flipping is the prerequisite for any downstream balance improvement of the mission system. That does not mean that we'll see any such improvements, and of course, it's always possible to make it worse.
I just like some kind of logic to my gameplay. A refresh button make no sense.
It's like going to the job centre seeing a list of jobs available, not liking any of them, pressing an RNG button and getting a new set of jobs just magically appear and hoping that the one I want appear.
A refresh button doesn't make any logical sense, hence the reason why I don't like it.
If you go to Monster.com or LinkedIn, you press F5 for refreshing the page. It's just like a browser for online services. Nothing artificial with that.
Eddbanger has Elite Dangerous 2 hours ago
if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions. In my mission board wing missions take up about 60% + of all missions on the board, they need to allow us to filter them for solo i.e. no wing missions unless a solo commander wants to solo them for less money lol. I think this is a bad move as missions don't show up anywhere near enough through all the wing crap if what I am reading means you get paid a bit more for missions but that's the page you get for the next 10 minutes
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Agony_Aunt 41 minutes ago
Originally posted by Eddbanger:
if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions.
That i can at least partially agree with. In principle we shouldn't. On the other hand, i've solo'd a couple of wing assassination mission and they were fun.
Perhaps a better option is to have a button which allows us to say whether we want to see wing missions or not.
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Eddbanger has Elite Dangerous 17 minutes ago
yes, that would be perfect Agony_Aunt
Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:
Originally posted by Eddbanger:
if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions.
That I can at least partially agree with. In principle, we shouldn't. On the other hand, I've solo'd a couple of wing assassination mission and they were fun.
Perhaps a better option is to have a button which allows us to say whether we want to see wing missions or not.
that's what I meant with this bit "unless a solo commander wants to solo them for less money lol" so yes a toggle button to choose content to add multiplayer type wing missions would be the best way to choose what we want to see in our mission board
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if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions. In my mission board wing missions take up about 60% + of all missions on the board, they need to allow us to filter them for solo i.e. no wing missions unless a solo commander wants to solo them for less money lol. I think this is a bad move as missions don't show up anywhere near enough through all the wing crap if what I am reading means you get paid a bit more for missions but that's the page you get for the next 10 minutes
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Agony_Aunt 41 minutes ago
Originally posted by Eddbanger:
if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions.
That i can at least partially agree with. In principle we shouldn't. On the other hand, i've solo'd a couple of wing assassination mission and they were fun.
Perhaps a better option is to have a button which allows us to say whether we want to see wing missions or not.
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Eddbanger has Elite Dangerous 17 minutes ago
yes, that would be perfect Agony_Aunt
Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:
Originally posted by Eddbanger:
if we are in solo we should not get or see any wing missions.
That I can at least partially agree with. In principle, we shouldn't. On the other hand, I've solo'd a couple of wing assassination mission and they were fun.
Perhaps a better option is to have a button which allows us to say whether we want to see wing missions or not.
that's what I meant with this bit "unless a solo commander wants to solo them for less money lol" so yes a toggle button to choose content to add multiplayer type wing missions would be the best way to choose what we want to see in our mission board
o7 Cmdr
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I actually worked for DWP for ten years. What it's actually like is going to the Jobcentre, looking at the first page of jobs available on the computer system and then selecting the next page because there are sufficient numbers of jobs on it that you'd need a six foot screen to view them all.
Don't forget some systems have a larger population than the Earth. Is it really so realistic that I dock at the main station in a system with a population of 8 billion, check the jobs board for a faction in boom and discover six opportunities?
I can think of several plausible reasons why that could be the case, yes. So can you.
Realistic...or plausible?
Out of curiousity, what would be your plausible examples?
Now it will be impossible to fill my Anaconda with passengers because there are never enough passengers in a single board to make a run. I'd be better off with a smaller ship because it'll hold the same amount of passengers.
Already did it before I wrote that post. You are being remarkably confrontational in this thread Genus, chill out
I had two ships fitted with passenger modules until very recently, one was my Cutter that had a combination of cargo & first class/economy modules for tourist missions (recently refitted for combat), and the other is a dolphin with the same basic spread as my Cutter had but less of everything.
I have never needed an Orca or Beluga, and as you describe have never filled a large ship with enough passengers alone for a dedicated passenger ship bigger than the Dolphin.
Hopefully this should give you an idea of how it will pan out if board flipping without any other changes happens. otoh I do an awful lot of fetch & deliver cargo missions, and I do a lot of assassination & data delivery missions. Arguably dedicated passenger ships are not currently viable without board flipping.
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You are being remarkably confrontational in this thread Genus, chill out
Can't I do both?
Don't get so word hurty, I'll try to bear in mind your feels are made vulnerable by an outcome that benefits more than just the individual. I think whilst two completely different things, plausible and realistic can both be covered off, to deliver a solution that works for everyone.
Maybe make a Refresh button optional in the right hand menu, for the masochists. Or switch it off completely in Iron Man Mode. Maybe even make reputation at the station a factor of how long the board takes to refresh automatically?
There you go, several plausible things, none of them being very realistic. All good?
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You are spraying & praying Genus, relax that trigger finger
This change is a good thing, and the stuff you are worried about going wrong hasn't gone wrong yet. You have expressed your concern, drowning out the opinions of others isn't going to help your case.
The proposed change to the Mission Boards is a good thing. The curious absence of seemingly any intent by FD to fix "that which needs to be fixed" before this happens, or indeed the continued patronisation of anyone who would infer an expectation of yet another of a long unbroken line of worst case scenarios as an outcome...
...can be all be fixed by the inclusion of a Refresh Missions Button.
Help me to help you, Riverside. Help me...to help...you.
PS: When all the Solo players start "pulling their triggers" over their Mission Boards being full of nothing but Wing Missions and have to wait for it to refresh to nothing but more wing missions, I'll remind them it's your fault.
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The proposed change to the Mission Boards is a good thing. The curious absence of seemingly any intent by FD to fix "that which needs to be fixed" before this happens, or indeed the continued patronisation of anyone who would infer an expectation of yet another of a long unbroken line of worst case scenarios as an outcome...
...can be all be fixed by the inclusion of a Refresh Missions Button.
Help me to help you, Riverside. Help me...to help...you.
The mission board already automatically refreshes Genus, adding a button to click is on a par with the old RNG of Engineering. If you are going to request something to help you find the missions you want, request mission type filters rather than a roulette wheel. We had that & thankfully now it's gone.
Play the hand you're dealt.
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You are spraying & praying Genus, relax that trigger finger
This change is a good thing, and the stuff you are worried about going wrong hasn't gone wrong yet. You have expressed your concern, drowning out the opinions of others isn't going to help your case.
Tend to agree with what you're saying.
The increase in payouts is... of concern.
As you say, nothing has happened yet.
They will do what they will do.
I just don't have the time. And to be blunt, shouldn't have to wait just because you think I should and FD believe they have excuse not to bother.
I doubt anything is on a par with the old Engineering. Well, except maybe the new Engineering. Ooh, also Powerplay....and Materials, and....well...many things are on a par with the old Engineering.
Fingers crossed the new Missions isn't, so a Refresh Button isn't needed. That said, they could build something like Saving Princess outlined a year ago and head all these concerns off by delivering something different, useful, and in addition to a dedicated server.
Would you like to hold your breath?
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I'm not him, but I think I can:
First of all, these aren't exactly "I'm looking for a man with a van" quickie jobs. These are "I'm looking for a big trading vessel to lift many tonnes of cargo over several light-years". You wouldn't expect as many of those at the same time. Plus, remember the mission board refreshes every 20 minutes. If your faction offers 6 missions each time, that's 18 shipments per hour, just for one faction. Add up all the factions at that station, and that's a very busy port!
And that's just for cargo missions. If you look at combat missions "I need you to kill 6 people every 20 minutes" then it becomes completely ridiculous how MANY missions there are.
How often does the mission board refresh?
I'm seeing a lot of different times, just within this thread?:S
I'm seeing a lot of different times, just within this thread?:S