Nah, 5 billions to install module and 10 mils to put beacon in space + 10 mils / week while you own module
In system jump QOL solution?
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Yep, im there too...
The NMS cartoony worlds/characters are simply a no-go for me (and i'm the type that enjoys cartoons/anime)
I'm fine with cartoony and play it day-two per year, when I want to build something ... but not moving planets is a reason to stop till next year
Agreed. Which is why I'm at 1,200hrs in NMS and still playing.
I'm not really sure what point you're making, with 1200hrs in NMS and Triple Elite in ED. You like them both for different reasons?
basically he's proposing what amounts to a 'Cynosural Field Generator.' Now that would make for some interesting PvP. "Hot-drop o' Clock anyone?"
Except that since the FSD is based on Thargoid drives, and Thargoid drives have the ability to pin point accurately drop out of witch-space where ever they want (to the point where Thargoids don't use or seem to need, super cruise drives.) AND navigate freely in witch-space. The video seems to contradict you're own claim that FSDs can't be tuned this way. That seems more a failure of the human made navigation systems rather than the drive's physical limitations.
Now from a game play reason, I don't think players should ever be able to get that fine control like that, it would make the game's idea of flying through space just ridiculous.
However, I do think that we should be able to override which star we can arrive at, provided a few conditions. Mainly, that the player either has been there before and thus has mapped it OR has purchased said map from UC to be able to provide the computer with the coordinates of the star they want to override to. As well as drastically reducing the jump range when the override is in use, say maybe 50%-75% of normal jump range. Which would require that you get close to the system first before engaging the override. Kind of like "reverse supercharging" you're trading distance for accuracy to nail the next massive target in the system. And obviously this would only really benefit systems that have multiple celestial class objects in it, like stars, blackholes, white dwarfs, etc. So if you're in a single star system that's just big, well you're out of luck.
No, just no...
Care to explain why? Or just triggered by the idea like every one else?
This is false logic. It's not problem of people making their business more successful and streamlined. It's problem of price management and market. Balance this by increasing/decreasing prices according on material inflow. etc.There are crazy people who do "mining maps" out of screenshots to do 500mil/hr. If you add such a beacons they will pass 2 bils/hr I guess
A bit offtopic: To incentivise exploration and mapping, give the person who is first to map the planetary ring with lucrative hotspot a royality right - every sell operation with materials from that spot gives the explorer 2% from profit.
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unrestricted and easy in-system jumps means that all the multi-star big systems will be reduced to single star systems.
it will remove the dimension aspect of every multi-star system.
at least carriers - the only asset that can provide micro jumps have certain drawbacks (they cost money, they have upkeep, their jumps are on a timer, each jump costs fuel which is rather expensive or requires mining and not at last, they cannot jump absolutely everywhere)
Did you properly read the OP? There are restrictions.. my spelling and grammer isnt the best so i get it might be a hard read, but you would have to go there, and place the beacon, and only you can use it. And you only get to place one so you could not jump to a B star straight away, you would have to travel there and place it. Then you can only jump to that beacon in that system once you arrive, and placing the beacon some where else removes the first beacon. I feel it realy is very limited in its scope.
Its realy just for short cutting one long journey you may use frequently or particularly disslike having to do often.
it's not really limited in scope for you, while it limits the ability of your enemies/competition/whatever to micro-jump and get you, at least for a while.
And it does not cost anything nor it has any drawback bar the initial trip.
If, anything - it's just another approach to cut make big things really small.
Well it costs a module slot.. say a size 4? And it is totaly for the reason you state to make a big journey short. In one location you set up.
There a some cases where i find a nice place to mine but the station is 250kls from the location and it makes it lesss desirable than some other lacations that have a station much closer. Same for some mission runs or RES sites. So often there is one or two popular systems that have short distances that every one uses and the rest of the galaxy is ignored in this respect. This i feel would make them viable.
What kind of costs would you think could be a good balance.. i had the idea a militery drive that runs on different fuel may also need to be used, to use the module/beacon. After hearing the lor explination given for fleet carriers. And perhaps have the beacon visable to other players so they could camp the beacon like a star to help limmit the escape advantage
I was thinking that NMS has fast, convenient supercruise and still manages to provide lots of gameplay. I still play ED because of the realistic cosmic models and combat mechanics. Both of which are non-existent in NMS.
Like the eleventeen hullion other threads about in system jumps, this suggestion would turn the game from a space ship flight game into a game of "spam J button". Even though the proposal you listed involves the players having to run to a location then place a beacon at it before they can jump to it, you'd completely wreck the game. At the extremities of the distance from jump is hutton orbital, I'm pretty sure players would switch on to the idea of placing player-beacons at hutton orbital and instantly travelling the .22 LY to the station. You'd also unwittingly create credit farms, where missions to destinations hundreds of thousands of light seconds from the station, paying vastly more money because of of the distances involved, could be insta-glibbed by spamming J button.
Then there's the incompatability with the lore, FSD works not off nav beacons, but off the gravitational pull of the stars, thats why you usually drop in a few LS from the nav beacon, not in its pocket instance. Then there are the issues covered a gazillion times before....
Now since you've made me elaborate on this, I'm increasing my hostility to it from a straight ""No, just no..." to an "Absolutely no fracking way!!!"
If this feature existed - no one would force you to to use it.
It's honestly kind of creepy how many people are overly concerned with how others want/choose to play a game.
Like I think it would be nuts to not use SCA - but other people apparently enjoy playing without it. My reaction? Good for them - whatever they enjoy.
It's honestly kind of creepy how many people are overly concerned with how others want/choose to play a game.
Like I think it would be nuts to not use SCA - but other people apparently enjoy playing without it. My reaction? Good for them - whatever they enjoy.
Yea, you have the opprortunity to play iron-man and reset your save at every death?
Do you do it?
No
If they introduce short-cuts and fast travel, no one will take the long run.
Ok.. so.. triggered then.. got it lol
Not a terrible compromise though I personally feel no need of it.
FYI, this change to a fundamental pillar of the game's design wouldnt be considered a QoL; the term QoL is used specifically to refer to small and near-universally enjoyed changes. Warp points in system would massively change the economy, travel, ship loadout budgeting, etc. This is referred to as a design shift or a major new feature.
An example QoL is adding a keyboard shortcut to an oft-used UI function etc.
FYI, this change to a fundamental pillar of the game's design wouldnt be considered a QoL; the term QoL is used specifically to refer to small and near-universally enjoyed changes. Warp points in system would massively change the economy, travel, ship loadout budgeting, etc. This is referred to as a design shift or a major new feature.
An example QoL is adding a keyboard shortcut to an oft-used UI function etc.