As alluded to above...the fun ones where it is both theory and fact such as gravity and evolution. The observable phenomena of gravity and evolution, and the associated theory of the same name to explain it.
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As alluded to above...the fun ones where it is both theory and fact such as gravity and evolution. The observable phenomena of gravity and evolution, and the associated theory of the same name to explain it.
ClymAngus
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This does raise the annoying question of how you observe something that is technically unobservable and to get close enough to answer some fundimental questions about it renders the information unretreavable and therefore moot.
It's like trying to descover if Jesus picks his nose in heaven. Getting your answer renders the write up impossible. In short I think this one is going to DRAG.
Oh and if your waiting for online apologies, you'll be waiting a long time. You could be the rightiest Mr Right diddly right right in the known universe. Someone is always going to say your wrong for s**ts and giggles. It's a human thing.
I've been waiting for people to apologise to me for years, hasn't happened yet. Just sayin. I could apologise to you if you like, if it would make you feel better
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"I'm creating a ship that will resist the unstoppable power of a blackhole, so I'm going to need a monitoring system that looks like a drug fuelled 1970's disco wall. More buttons and flashy lights! Blind my hairy ass with superfluous strobing data!! Hell Yeah!!!"
LOL - there'll be 40 years worth of Frontier newsletters for him to read!
ignoration does hot help your problem ;-)
fact is, the ship could never come close to a black hole.....even a neutron star would tear it apart due to gravitational shear
I never understood that ending... the whole 5th element 'them' things seemed very deus ex machina
Wouldn't he have been killed by spaghettification long before he ended up in behind-the-bookshelf-land ?
Bookshelf land (From the film Interstellar as we all know but some people are missing the reference and may not have seen the film) was created by humans from the future who know how to manipulate other dimensions. They also are the ones that saved Cooper from the effects of a rapidly spinning black hole... Which, by the way, allows for the fact that gravity would not be evenly dispersed, so theoretically it would be possible to fly through intact.
There are some that believe we did not land on the moon despite the fact that you can point a laser at the experiments left there by Apollo astronauts and get a response - which then tells you that the moon is pulling away from the earth at a rate of 10mm a year or something like that.
Theorists propose what a black hole looks like and what it should appear like in the sky and how it affects it's neighbours. They look in the sky, see the expected radiation signatures and observe how Sag A's neighbours behave. What more you want? To be served a black hole on a plate for dinner? Believe what you want.
Besides, how do you think the spaghetti monster came about if it wasn't for spaghettification from a black hole? Now. Can't answer that can we?
None of that has been peer-reviewed, and a lot of scientists are already calling those studies foul. It's another theory, and it doesnt disprove anything. Black holes still exist, as they always have.
His kids will be born with three heads.
Accretion discs... Hmmm good for funeral barges and hiding from the law. Might be able to find some hot metallics from stars that have been ripped apart???
Radio interference - KWS no longer works and wings communication disrupted...
Shield disruption - making trading more dangerous...
Three head and a floating keyboard arrangement... Mmmm.
Radio interference - KWS no longer works and wings communication disrupted...
Shield disruption - making trading more dangerous...
Three head and a floating keyboard arrangement... Mmmm.
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I have proof of that! In order to defy gravity you simply have to be Christopher Walken, in a hotel and have weapon of choice playing on a cheap radio. With enough volume and jiggling it may indeed be possible to implode a Blackhole using the towering force of sheer coolness.
He waits; on the internet. For all time, for someone, anyone to play that song. And he will rise from his chair and dance...... Press the button; make him dance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs
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Please tell me you came out of a White Hole. PLEASE.
"The Cat: So, what is it? Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Rimmer: A *white* hole?
Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
Lister: So, that thing's spewing time...
Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat] ... back into the Universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
The Cat: So, what is it?
Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Rimmer: A *white* hole?
Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
Lister: [minus the hat] So, that thing's spewing time...
Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat, again] ... back into the Universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
Lister: What time phenomena?
Kryten: Like just then, when time repeated itself.
The Cat: So, what is it?
[Kryten, Rimmer, and Lister stare at Cat]
The Cat: Only joking.
"The Cat: So, what is it? Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Rimmer: A *white* hole?
Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
Lister: So, that thing's spewing time...
Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat] ... back into the Universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
The Cat: So, what is it?
Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Rimmer: A *white* hole?
Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
Lister: [minus the hat] So, that thing's spewing time...
Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat, again] ... back into the Universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
Lister: What time phenomena?
Kryten: Like just then, when time repeated itself.
The Cat: So, what is it?
[Kryten, Rimmer, and Lister stare at Cat]
The Cat: Only joking.
No, at first you say that BH aren't "even possible", that's why people was asking about evidences and sources. Then, you say that there are no proof that they exists, this is really different. Atm, They just fit in the universe laws, Einstein predicted them, and we can even use gravitational lenses to see distant stars behind the black hole. We have to admit there is something creating huge gravitational forces, or the milky way is rotating around...nothing?
Recently, Hawking published an article about information paradox and "firewall", he try to prove that such a firewall doesn't exist, such a clear line between our universe and outside our universe (what's inside the even horizon) doesn't exist like this, this is more a space between both universes, and in this space, sometimes a pair of virtual particles is created and may exit the event horizon, so information seems not lost as we thought before, but it doesn't prove BH does not exist, it only proves it might be not exactly how we see them atm.
So, we can't see them, but we can see their interactions in our universe. You're right, we can't prove they really exists, but physicists admit this is the best theory atm. They are possible, this is where you make a mistake by saying they aren't possible. I can't prove BH are exactly how we describe them, but i can prove they are possible. You can't prove, atm, they're not possible.
About asking citations, you know, when a scientist writes an article (I did, but not in astrophysics), he has to quote references, and he's not a teacher. When you say something that other scientists disagree, you have to prove your point of view, this is not to other scientists to prove your article isn't true, so they don't have to search for hours. If you don't provide references, then your article is worth some toilet paper....Hawking himself have to quote references.
Hawking published an article last year about information paradox and black holes : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.5761v1.pdf I guess he wouldn't work on something "not even possible given the latest findings".
Sorry for my bad english.
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