Ironman mode??

[Gavin Burke]

I've Google as much as I can but cannot seem to find an answer... I jumped into ED 9 months ago so have no idea about the "creation" of a commander as cannot remember that far back at all!

So my question is, is Ironman mode something that's in game and avaiable to XBox players? Does that mean I am locked into Open but I have an Ironman "tag" or something on me?

Just wondering what the challenge is all about, if it's available in game and on XBox, and how promiment it tells people I'm playing Ironman mode if so....

 

[Gunnet]

Ironman is purely a self-imposed challenge. When an ironman player dies they manually clear their save.

 

[Arkantes]

What you're describing was advertised before release, but has been axed since then.

 

[verminstar]

Ironman is a personal choice...on both platforms. The mechanics of how it works is exactly the same regardless what platform yer on...as in yer not locked to any mode at all unless through self imposed choice ^

The challenge is simple...one life only, ye die, ye wake up in a sidewinder with 1k credits. Self imposed, play your own way taken very literally ^

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I've Google as much as I can but cannot seem to find an answer... I jumped into ED 9 months ago so have no idea about the "creation" of a commander as cannot remember that far back at all!

So my question is, is Ironman mode something that's in game and avaiable to XBox players? Does that mean I am locked into Open but I have an Ironman "tag" or something on me?

Just wondering what the challenge is all about, if it's available in game and on XBox, and how promiment it tells people I'm playing Ironman mode if so....

It's something you decide to do yourself, at the point your ship gets destroyed somehow.

If you're running 'pure' Ironman then you will immediately clear your save and start from scratch. It is not something the game itself offers, however - it's purely a player decision.

There are also some variations. Some players will roll a dice and only clear save depending on the value. Some (and I like this one) will not accept the insurance rebuy, but only continue to play the game using other ships they already have, and rebuy at full cost.

 

[verminstar]

It's something you decide to do yourself, at the point your ship gets destroyed somehow.

If you're running 'pure' Ironman then you will immediately clear your save and start from scratch. It is not something the game itself offers, however - it's purely a player decision.

There are also some variations. Some players will roll a dice and only clear save depending on the value. Some (and I like this one) will not accept the insurance rebuy, but only continue to play the game using other ships they already have, and rebuy at full cost.

I do have a death on the current save after using a suicidewinder fast taxi to ganktown from colonia...justified because I was at the point of quitting the game entirely and needed something to motivate me. In this case a keelback and slf which Id never used before cos Im too poor...pure ironman wouldnt have worked cos the mission system was broken at the time so making money was even more frustratingly boring than usual ^

The reason fer being so fed up? You fly nothing but an asp scout fer 4 months in the black and then declare yer undying love fer the game.

Oh and the asp scout is truly one the worst and most useless ship in the game...I consider buying it in the first placfe a very noobish moment ^

 

[Cervantes01]

It would be good though, if you could have an Iron man mode where you are locked into an open instance that only has other players in it that are also in iron man mode. That makes it fair for everyone, one life, use it well...

 

[DD_Crash]

It would be good though, if you could have an Iron man mode where you are locked into an open instance that only has other players in it that are also in iron man mode. That makes it fair for everyone, one life, use it well...

That was how it was originally intended but it fell by the wayside.

 

[BL1P]

It would be good though, if you could have an Iron man mode where you are locked into an open instance that only has other players in it that are also in iron man mode. That makes it fair for everyone, one life, use it well...

The devs would need to add a Private Group like mobius but that has the rebuy option removed, and which is shown on the start menu.
With no crossover.
Thats way too complicated for a game developer to do.

Its better to just let some play Ironman against others that are not.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

It would be good though, if you could have an Iron man mode where you are locked into an open instance that only has other players in it that are also in iron man mode. That makes it fair for everyone, one life, use it well...

I think the problem is that there wouldn't be enough players using it. You may as well be in Solo for all the likelyhood you'd have of meeting another Commander ingame. Heck, I play Open and there are sometimes entire play sessions of 4-6 hrs where I don't see another Commander.

 

[Gavin Burke]

Heck, I play Open and there are sometimes entire play sessions of 4-6 hrs where I don't see another Commander.

Exactly my experience of Open so far, but maybe because I'm in a "quiet" part of the bubble, though still within a powers controlled systems so thought I'd see someone at least

 

[Gavin Burke]

Oh - and thanks for all the replies, I'll continue with my current CMDR and progress towards my Elite rankings then

 

[Patrick_68000]

It would be good though, if you could have an Iron man mode where you are locked into an open instance that only has other players in it that are also in iron man mode. That makes it fair for everyone, one life, use it well...

It's obvious. Any other solution is not the true Iron man mode

 

[Patrick_68000]

Its better to just let some play Ironman against others that are not.

There is an imbalance concerning the tension in the game, the coherence of the relations between the Commanders

 

[smiths121]

The original DDF proposal on groups actually had an Iron Man mode, if I remember correctly if you became wanted (in solo, iron man mode - anything), then your next instance would have been "all players group", so it was like the exclusive iron man mode people have commented on above, except if you were a naughty boy. The enforced move to open if you have a bounty, got dropped - varables being lack of off-line mode and rubbish internet connections pulling down open instances. I think the idea of Open sub-groups went when this mechanic got dropped.

Simon

 

[Shiro Akai]

The devs would need to add a Private Group like mobius but that has the rebuy option removed, and which is shown on the start menu.
With no crossover.
Thats way too complicated for a game developer to do.

Is it? No dev myself but it can't be that hard to write a line of code that starts new game after death. It's simple condition (if) player = killed, (then) start new game. Diablo's hardcore has it. Separate server, you die, you get a tomb and you can create new character. The only difficulty would be the need to keep and maintain new server, dedicated to ironman. Probably open as solo would diminish the whole achievement.

 

[TFB Daerist]

Some (and I like this one) will not accept the insurance rebuy, but only continue to play the game using other ships they already have, and rebuy at full cost.

I am attracted to this one for my next (alt) account who will be a pure RP captain in open. Useful things those Remlocks. Shame my ship got blown. Will mean probably minimal engineering, knowing whatever is done will almost inevitably be lost as almost inevitably will get blown up or if I do, then do a stack of modules and store them, and only engineer what is essential as limited by storage space. The aim will be to get to a Cutter, but I can see months/years/lifetime of Courier at best!

A diluted ironman. Steel Man?

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Is it? No dev myself but it can't be that hard to write a line of code that starts new game after death. It's simple condition (if) player = killed, (then) start new game. Diablo's hardcore has it. Separate server, you die, you get a tomb and you can create new character. The only difficulty would be the need to keep and maintain new server, dedicated to ironman. Probably open as solo would diminish the whole achievement.

Exactly .. been having this discussion over the years from the original KS pitch (where they touted the idea of IM); to the DDF where the concept was fleshed out; to today where FD just can't be bothered ...

Conceptually:

- Create a non-selectable PG called "Iron Man"
- Place a selectable "IM" button on your commander character generation screen.
- If selected you're put into the IM PG and can't change it. (In effect it becomes the "open" of the IM universe)
- Upon death reset the flag

Done.

Some pre game alterations & menu options; some "on death" alterations; and that's pretty much it. The concept of private groups is already in game; the IM universe requires nothing extra or special about it (ie it's just like any other ordinary PG except upon death you're ejected from it to continue in normal if you wish)

 

[Goose4291]

I miss the promise of iron man mode. It would have been glorious.

 

[BL1P]

Is it? No dev myself but it can't be that hard to write a line of code that starts new game after death. It's simple condition (if) player = killed, (then) start new game. Diablo's hardcore has it. Separate server, you die, you get a tomb and you can create new character. The only difficulty would be the need to keep and maintain new server, dedicated to ironman. Probably open as solo would diminish the whole achievement.

It was pure sarcasm because its in so many other games that I cannot see why its no in Elite Dangerous.
It would be no major task to add a pack of cmdrs to the store and alow only a clean save to start in the Ironman mode.
Once flagged as Ironman then you can only play on the Ironman mode with that Cmdr.