Is ED on life support? A terminal decline?

[Cosmos]

We shall never know the player numbers or the coin Frontier has made from the game but I have a distinct impression that things aint going so well.

Ordinarily much of the discorse over ED has been players verhmently defending their own position. There seems to be a fairly reasonable view going around that the game is stalling, that FD have moved on, and the game is on maintenance mode. Hard to say otherwise coz despite so many people who are apprently working on the game the output doesnt seem to be comensurate with that.

Of course you know, you pull in Obsidian Ant, stage a lot of devs hard at work invite him to look around, and one gullable youtuber, whose made a revenune of being 'impartial' about the game reports back on how wonderful things might be..

Some time back I distinctly remember BrettC saying that we would know when the game wasnt doing so well because the quality of the updates of the game would go down..

Call me out on this commanders but all I'm seeing is a steady decline.. A brief check on steam (oh and I know there are some who dont use steam) says that there is a certain writing on the wall.

Upper management however has cashed in..

Tell me I am wrong.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

This last week or so, I've had more time to observe the community, as I have not been playing so much due to illness. (While not posting much, I've read literally everything)

As much as it pains me to say it, I fear you may, at least partially, be nearer the truth than many would like.

It saddens me.

 

[Cosmos]

This last week or so, I've had more time to observe the community, as I have not been playing so much due to illness. (While not posting much, I've read literally everything)

As much as it pains me to say it, I fear you may, at least partially, be nearer the truth than many would like.

It saddens me.

It doesnt give me any pleasure to have said it and I have always wanted for ED to be amazing but I do wonder.

btw, I hope your health improves

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

 

[Deleted member 110222]

It doesnt give me any pleasure to have said it and I have always wanted for ED to be amazing but I do wonder.

I too recall seeing that comment by Brett. And with the current selection of bugs, especially the bloody scramming issue, which is a recurring bug... Well, I fear he spoke the truth. I'd like to also point out that FD has made near no participation in hot threads lately. This is especially evident on the Xbox board. Gary Richards used to post near daily on there. But I haven't seen his handle for months. It's like he died, truth be told.

Where is the developer input? Some people will say the community "scared them off". I think it's much simpler than that. I just think that they have nothing to say, because, I fear, not much is happening in their studio.

 

[CMDR Crumpeteer]

Oh look, here's the "ED is dying" thread someone predicted earlier, Steam reference and all.

 

[Chris Simon]

 

[DukeIronHand]

Why do these types of posts keep popping up from the same 5 or 6 people?
Over and over and over....

 

[M00ka]

Of course threads like this great help the promotion of the game, but I am sure you will get the normal rhetoric responses all agreeing with you. Keep this up and you will get your wish.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I understand the tedious nature of the topic, although one does have to recognise that a lot of these topics are cropping up. That does not happen without cause.

I'm aware that I've mocked these topics before. I was wrong to do that. I think it's time we take a clear, concise and objective look at this matter which evidently, does matter to a significant portion of the community. (I claim neither majority nor minority, but rather a vocal portion of unknown quantity)

 

[Sylveria]

That does not happen without cause.

You're right. It's the same people "causing" it over... and over... and over...

This game has been "doomed" since before it even released. People did the same thing on the KS, alpha, beta, etc.

Guess what? The game's still here. 2017.

 

[krylite]

These types of threads usually pop up again in the lull between major patch updates. A cycle similar to steamcharts with a wavelength ranging within months.


No, "Beyond"-2018 doesn't sound like a "terminal decline" imo.

"pull in Obsidian Ant, stage a lot of devs hard at work invite him to look around," -> actually sounds more like something the SC camp would do. They certainly have done myriad amount of vaporware for sale and trailer props.

 

[Maymo]

I’m honestly on the edge here...

I watched the recent engineering stream and Sandro and co don’t seem to be lacking any enthusiasm. We have the new ships coming soon that’s bound to cheer people up and the general theme of 2018 is improving the core game....that for me is a massive step in the right direction, if they turned around and announced that they were going to spend the next two years just working on the core game I’d be delighted. All the pieces of the puzzle are already there.....they just don’t quite fit right at the moment.....that “placeholders” word keeps springing to mind.

The Thargoids could all die from arsenic poisoning tomorrow and I wouldn’t care. I think it was a complete waste of time when there’s so much potential and balance missing from the core game.

I think the best thing FD can do to settle down this community is to simply be more transparent with their plans for the game. They don’t have to give away lore or story secrets, I just want to know if they’ll ever give any attention to the navy ranking system to make it more involved, or salvage careers, or CQC, or Powerplay...

Just so wish they’d stop making ‘new’ stuff (like aliens) and focus on simply improving what they have, sounds like that’s what they’re going to do in 2018 so I’m going to hold tight........then burn their building down if they don’t come through....(joke)

I don’t want to be on here talking with you lot, I want to be enjoying ranking up with the Federation sooooo much that I’ve bolted my door shut, resigned from work and turned off my phone...why doesn’t ranking up with a galactic superpower currently feel like that?

 

[Sylveria]

These types of threads usually pop up again in the lull between a new major patch update. A cycle similar to steamcharts.

No, "Beyond"-2018 doesn't sound like a "terminal decline" imo.

Exactly. Funny how they're in the process of planning out a whole year of updates without new content being introduced yet the game is "dying", eh?

A business couldn't afford to do that unless they're flush with cash. That's a BIG gamble if you don't have the cash on hand to sustain a whole year.

 

[Suvi Anwar]

I understand the tedious nature of the topic, although one does have to recognise that a lot of these topics are cropping up. That does not happen without cause.

I'm aware that I've mocked these topics before. I was wrong to do that. I think it's time we take a clear, concise and objective look at this matter which evidently, does matter to a significant portion of the community. (I claim neither majority nor minority, but rather a vocal portion of unknown quantity)

There will never be anything "clear, concise, or objective" about this subject until FDev themselves say something that would indicate what the state is. Until that happens, it's all subjective supposition and assumptions based off of the ramblings of some salt shakers on a forum. Just sayin'.

 

[Cosmos]

You're right. It's the same people "causing" it over... and over... and over...

This game has been "doomed" since before it even released. People did the same thing on the KS, alpha, beta, etc.

Guess what? The game's still here. 2017.

I think I may have created a thread over the past five years in a very small number. I could be out of touch but whilst the game aint dead and I am not wishing it to be, I've take a look at steam counts, views on ob ants and so on.. Its not looking that greatt tbh..

I've started getting into EvE again.

 

[Sylveria]

I think I may have created a thread over the past five years in a very small number. I could be out of touch but whilst the game aint dead and I am not wishing it to be I've take a look at steam counts, views on ob ants and so on.. Its not looking that greatt tbh..

As I said, it's been going on for years- and although it may be your first time, it's certainly not the first time it's happened. As I stated before, it's been going on since before release.

Game is most certainly not on "life support".

Tell me, if you owned a business, would you announce you're not introducing any new product for an entire year unless you felt completely comfortable with your cash position? Seriously?

 

[shadragon]

I understand the tedious nature of the topic, although one does have to recognise that a lot of these topics are cropping up. That does not happen without cause.

I'm aware that I've mocked these topics before. I was wrong to do that. I think it's time we take a clear, concise and objective look at this matter which evidently, does matter to a significant portion of the community. (I claim neither majority nor minority, but rather a vocal portion of unknown quantity)

Mocking fake news is justifiable. In a democracy, it's a civic duty.

 

[M00ka]

I think the best thing FD can do to settle down this community is to simply be more transparent with their plans for the game.

Good post but I do want to discuss the bit I quoted.

FD are in a no-win situation regards transparency. If they don't give regular (some here seem to want daily updates lol) they are called secretive and not caring about the game. If they do release aspects of their plans for the future, the forum going into freefall with wild speculation on how FD should proceed, salty tears if what was proposed wasn't on someone's agenda, more tears if what was proposed was on someone's agenda, but just in a different way, threats of leaving the game if proposal is introduced, threats on how the game will die if the proposal is introduced, or introduced in a way not to someone's liking.

The problem is the diversity of the player group and the diversity of how everyone plays the game differently, FD I believe are wise enough to realise they will never please everyone and those unhappy little vegemite's (Aussie expression, google it )would probably complain about any aspect of the game because that is all they do now.

 

[Broon]