Is it time for KickStarter Mk2?

SlackR

Banned
SlackR
I honestly wish I'd been able to contribute thousands rather than hundreds (missed the kickstarter) and that the current profit model was abandoned in place of subscriptions and / or ship purchases. That way the game could've stayed a more true course rather than gradually erode away into a hybrid console / board game that ultimately ends up pleasing nobody. I'd've been happy to fund this thing forever and so would many others if it had stayed true to the original plan. As it is, they have made their choice and we will see to what extent the game gets changed as a result.

Ps. If I was a billionaire I'd buy frontier, sack DB as CEO / head of marketing and rehire him as an awesome programmer! Nuff said! :p
 
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Cmnd Fulsom

C
Yeah, companies need cashflow, but as a company you don't say that, you never, ever say that. Because the corporate game is a bout two thirds swagger. Even if you are in desperate need of money, you don't tell them you need money because it shakes people's confidence in your business, and at the end of the day, all your business has is people's confidence in it. Lose that and you might as well file for bankruptcy then and there. So when people hear Frontier saying, well we're doing this to produce more cash for the game it shakes that confidence, and that's bad, bad news for any business.

Stay frosty
 

Sysmon

Sysmon
The game seem to be doing okay, they got off to a good start with the Kickstarter and were able to fund the rest themselves. Another Kickstarter is supposed to do what then, exactly?

I don't think the forum here (or reddit, for that matter) is a good indicator of trouble as they are both outlets of a vocal minority. As has been hinted at above, if Frontier was trying to be fair to everybody, they would end up pleasing nobody. As it stands, they seem to be happy to be unfair, that is, to pursue and develop their vision as well as adapt it to the circumstances, rather than to fulfill whatever each of the individual funds contributors think the game should be.

And of course Frontier need money to continue, they need to maintain quite the development team and have plans for big additions and expansions to the game. Spreading the current game to multiple platforms will ensure the cashflow keep up.

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Harbinger

Volunteer Moderator
Harbinger
They don't need to run another Kickstarter, they're now a fully fledged publisher/development house and have at least £1m profits for June 2014 - May 2015* having wiped out their previous half year losses and lowered their credit facility from £3m to £1m.

* I expect we'll find out that £1m is quite a conservative estimate when they release their accounts data in September.

They've also had the Steam Sale and Xbox One release after their year end where they had a massive influx of new members in a very short space of time (At least 77K new backers between Steam sale and Xbox One between 16th June and the press release on 25th June where they stated a number of 640K backers). Frontier are most definitely not struggling for money right now.
 
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hems303

hems303
Erimus said:
I'll never back another kickstarter again. I was wary in the first place but the fact David Braben put his name to this one, and seeing the enthusiasm behind the dev diaries he made, convinced me to back it. Then the DDF proposals got me excited enough to up that initial pledge.

At the moment I don't think what we have was worth the investment. ED feels like a whole lot of placeholders patched together. Maybe in a years time I'll feel different when some meat is added to the bones, but at the moment I'm loathed to give Frontier Developments another penny, and have been put off the whole kickstarter experience for good.


A second kickstarter at this point would be more like a kick in the teeth.
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Wow Erimus!!!
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I have followed your exploits/vids.. with awe.:cool: The above insight into your current mind-set... is.... truly shattering...:eek: As I have deep respect for you, I must now closely re-evaluate my feelings for the "game"....:S
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Shocked and stunned,
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Yours; CMDR hems303:(
 
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PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
Nonya said:
Send your money to Chris Roberts instead.
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No, seriously, don't.

It is a rule-of-thumb in IT that any project beyond a certain size is almost certain to 'fail' (aka- at least hit very significant issues) - and from the outside SC shows all the signs of being such a 'cow on ice' - huge budget, geographically and culturally diverse dev teams and significant scope-creep.

I'm far more interested in, and optomistic about, No Man's Sky, which I have no doubt will be delivered (as small close-knit teams do this) and experienced publishers (Sony) make sure.

For Star Citizen, I wish the best, and I hope it arrives sometime, but it won't be anytime soon, and I won't be surprised if more problems are to be revealed.
 

jabokai

jabokai
Only backing dead cert, hardware projects now. Won't back any more software titles after Godus and ED. Also backed Limit Theory and Sui Generis (nothing delivered, at my level, from either so far.)

Having said that, of the hardware projects backed I don't have anything from them either yet, ha ha, although they're all still on track and posting updates, etc.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
The first kickstarter, included a pack of major expansions. Difficult for the moment to imagine a new kickstarter. Perhaps in a few years ?
 

CMDR Ellegon

CMDR Ellegon
Nonya said:
Send your money to Chris Roberts instead.
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Great idea. Send a hundred bucks to buy a ship that you can walk around. Not sure that Star Citizen (aka Scam Citizen) will ever be released. I got my money's worth (and then some) out of E: D, but I got dilly-squat so far out of my support for Star Citizen.
 

Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
I like to go over the Star Citizen forums for fun sometimes. Here is one of the latest polls. They are on crack over there.



Mo' $$$?

  • Should backers continue to pledge more money to CIG?146 votes
    • Yes
      72.60%
    • No
      27.40%
 
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