Is there a way to tell the game with which bindings to launch?

[Neilski]

I wrote my post based on my own recent experience with that very thing. I launched the game without turning my Xbox controller on (even though it uses Microsoft's wireless USB dongle, apparently you have to turn the controller on in order for the dongle to activate, or at least I assume), and ED had reverted to the default keybinds config file (turning the controller on while ED was running didn't make it use my custom config rile again). That's when I noticed that I had to go through all four keybinds categories and re-select my custom config file in each.

That's freaky. If you've renamed your bindings away from the default/custom name (I can't remember the lingo, but it's mentioned above and I imagine you know what I mean ) then I can't understand why we're seeing different behaviour.
I used to get exactly the behaviour you describe and it drove me nuts.

Joystick Gremlin

I do like JG but one minor gotcha is that if you use any plugins (this may happen in other cases too?), it disables itself every time a device is plugged or unplugged, including devices that aren't even used in the JG profile.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

the problem beleve it or not is visiting the control section in the first place DONT DO IT simply quit the game ensure devices are plugged in in windows via devices and printers
and simply restart the game(visiting the control section with devices unplugged causes a default binding subroutine to take over)
rename your bindings as per my guide stickied at the top of this subdorum not one of the 70 cmdrs who use that method have ever lost there binds and if they did they know exactly what to do to get um back............

lost your binds? want hasstle free backed up binds look no further

keybindings can reset if you visit the control section without one of your usual devices used to play the game ie hotas , xbox pad etc not plugged in or at that present moment is undetected by windows as it thinks your just using keyboard and mouse it simply rewrites your binds for you...

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[Helmut Grokenberger]

the problem beleve it or not is visiting the control section in the first place DONT DO IT simply quit the game ensure devices are plugged in in windows via devices and printers
and simply restart the game(visiting the control section with devices unplugged causes a default binding subroutine to take over)
rename your bindings as per my guide stickied at the top of this subdorm not one of the 70 cmdrs who use that method have ever lost there binds and if the did know exactly what to do to get um back

lost your binds? want hasstle free backed up binds look no further

keybindings can reset if you visit the control section without one of your usual devices used to play the game ie hotas , xbox pad etc not plugged in or at that present moment is undetected by windows as it thinks your just using keyboard and mouse it simply rewrites your binds for you...

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no. This has nothing to do with visiting the control section or not. If a device is not connected when starting the game and actually playing, the game will default to MKB controls, and when you exit the game will write that as the default for the next start. Believe me, I've scienced this to hell and back. It's not about accidently not pluggin in. It's about playing in a different configuration.

And it is NOT about losing your binds, the binds are fine. It is about the default StartPreset.4.start file.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

it wont and cant if remaned as per the guide including the StartPreset.4.start file.
if your binds are setout like this you wont have a problem if you simply restart the game with devices plugged in

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

Please stop spamming your guide. The start file is dynamically altered IF YOU PLAY THE GAME without a device in your binds file connected. THIS IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

it you start the game without a device connected it will either do 1 of two things if i am not mistaken
1 overwite your existing bindfile (whch cant happen if renamed as per guide inc the StartPreset.4.start file and restarted)
2 create a new bind file

if your binds are set and you are fully happy with them and dont intend on making any changes simply make the file non writable in the file permissions ie read only
then the game cannot change that file nor can you unless you make it writable again

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

it you start the game without a device connected it will either do 1 of two things if i am not mistaken
1 overwite you existing bindfile (whch cant happen if renamed as per guide inc the StartPreset.4.start file)
2 create a new bind file

You are mistaken, at least as far as my issue is concerned. Please read carefully and thoroughly.

• The game will not touch your binds file if you start the game without a device connected that is referenced in the binds file. Your binds file is safe.
• The game will default to the internal Keyboard and mouse binds. Those are integrated into the game and not available as a binds file in the Bindings folder.
• I am not totally sure what happens with the StartPreset.4.start file if you immediately exit the game without playing. But, and that is the important part, if you actually want to play the game and do load an alternate set of bindings because the default KBM binds suck, and then play and exit, your StartPreset.4.start file will be altered.
• I also believe this happens when you DON'T select other binds; in that case the game writes the default KBM to the StartPreset.4.start file. I am not going to verify that because right now I am trying to finish my Coriolis.
• The next time you start your game it will not matter if the device mentioned above is connected or not, your binds for that device will not be active because the game defaulted to something else.
• Those binds will be of course be loaded and available in the game, but you have to re-select them manually in the controls section. THIS IS THE PART I WANT TO AVOID.

This all has nothing to do with individual binds files. It is all about the StartPreset.4.start file and how it gets read and altered by the game. The game will not overwrite existing binds files or reate a new one. Why should it. This has never happened to me, and at the moment I switch regularly between playing in VR with my HOSAS connected and 2D with my HOSAS disconnected and put to the side.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

so what happens if you rename as mentioned inc the start file and then change file permissions to read only?
shoundnt take all of 5 mins to do to a copy of those files (after baking up your orginals)

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

Aha! I've been that smart already. If you change the StartPreset.4.start file to read only, you cannot change the binds presets in the controls menu anymore. It will revert back to KBM when you leave the menu.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

how is that posible if the bind file is read only also
i give up i have not had any binding issues since renaming both files and changing the permissions no matter what i do they are alway there with no sign of a kbm overwrite
(if i want to change a binding i have to make them writable agin mind you)

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

it doesn't matter what the binds files are. If the Start file is read only, the game fails to use the selected binding presets. It does not work.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

To make this more clear:

• Select the bindings you want, or manually write them to the start file
• make the file readonly
• disconnect the device
• run the game
• see the game default to KBM because the binds file is invalid as the device isn't connected
• try to select different bind presets in the four controls sections
• leave the controls menu
• reenter the controls menu and see the selected bindings reverted to KBM

so even if you wanted to just switch for the session, this does not work.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

see the game default to KBM because the binds file is invalid as the device isn't connected
ya but upon restart with devices plugged in everything is back to normal
i dont play with devices unplugged if i did i would set remane a bindfile "kbm"
and inside the StartPreset.4.start file
it would read
kbm
kbm
kbm
kbm
then i could choose either puppy dog control or kbm in the in game preset menu

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

see the game default to KBM because the binds file is invalid as the device isn't connected
ya but upon restart with devices plugged in everything is back to normal
i dont play with devices unplugged if i did i would set remane a bindfile "kbm"
and inside the StartPreset.4.start file
it would read
kbm
kbm
kbm
kbm
then i could choose either puppy dog control or kbm in the in game preset menu

Really, re-read my posts. I am getting tired of repeating myself. You obviously don't understand the issue.

Sorry. I am done here.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

me too i ant got no problems

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

Then maybe you should just stop telling people having issues that they don't when they clearly do.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

i never ever told someone they dont have a problem?
i have only ever made suggetions on a possible fix afaiaa
@least the 81 cmdrs who liked my guide dont seem to have any issues either
if i start the game with a controller unplugged this happens

as soon as i plug in my controller it says loading for two seconds then this happens

if i restart with the controler unplugged its pic 1 if i restart with it plugged in its pic 2
sorry that i cant quite grasp your issue i dont have to play with any presets it just works staight of the bat
hi diddle dee no binding issues fa me