honestly, I'd like to see some of these penetration-modded lasers (whatever the effect is called that does damage to hulls) against some of these super shielded ships. Yea, you've got a 6000hp modded shield, but how strong is your hull? That chip damage from those lasers adds up real quick, I'd think. Would probably make more sense to get them to run away than trying to wittle huge shields down with kinetics so long that you run out of ammo..