That's exactly my experience, as well. It's just odd, because that's basically the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do IRL, so it's completely counter-intuitive!
Is this why the SRV seems to spin out so badly?
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Not if you are on a sandy of other loose surface.
I say this as someone who has done 5 planetary circumnavigations, and SRV distance travelled is measured in LS. Nothing wrong with the SRV handling. Though I do use a throttle, joystick, and pedals for control.
I mean, I drive on gravel roads and/or dirt for most of the summer, and pure ice in the winter, and in my experience it's quite accurate. I drive tractors that have both front and back wheels rotate, like the SRV. The best way to escape instability is always to accelerate, it doesn't matter if you're on dirt, sand, ice, or pavement.
+1, Scarab's got quirks but it does make it a lot of fun to master.
That smooth bounce off the underside of the Thargoid structure in that video, by the way... chefkiss.gif
There's nothing to agree ot disagree with. When you spin out, you will always end up facing the opposite direction. Obviously, if you try to correct the spin, you might be facing elsewhere by the end of it but we're talking about the spinout.spinoff.
Edit: let me get this out of the way just in case... You're a very good driver and possibly the best SRV driver the human race has ever seen.
That is simply wrong. The only guarantee is that there is an exceedingly low chance you'll end up facing the same direction.
On average over a few hundred trials, I think you'd find the average stopping point is inverted. You'll obviously rarely end up EXACTLY inverted, but that's where it trends.
Yes, that's exactly what would have happened. If that was a front wheel drive, or a standard 4-wheel with open or limited slip differential. Now try losing the rear on a rear-wheel drive and save it by accelerating, and enjoy the laughs. That's really driving safety 101: when oversteering, press the pedal if in a front-wheel, raise it in a rear-wheel, do the opposite when understeering. There's also a whole chapter on how to tap the brakes/clutch and use the gearbox to the same effect, but not very relevant here since the SRV has nothing of the sort.
The SRV of course is not a rear-wheel, but an all-wheels drive (starting to suspect even the middle ones), with counter-steering rear wheels even at high speed (when they really should be not), supposedly front-heavy, with a supposedly locked/no differential, and an electric drive insta-torque. Colour me surprised, the only way to stop such wonky-designed vehicle from losing its rear on a high speed spin is to cut power instead of keep giving it, exactly the thing that happens when you drive it in the game. Who could ever guess.
(Guess I'll stop repeating these points now, if one hasn't got them by now, they might just be out of grasp for good)
See @Crank Larson ? He doesn't know about Sgurr or Shaye, you are fine, enjoy the moment!
I thought the SRV is rear-heavy, and that's why it's so difficult to get back in control when you lose it.
Indeed, that's why I added the "supposedly". To be fair, looking at it one could think most of the mass is toward the back (guess we have no idea, if FDev did things the right amount of lazy, it is probably just 50/50 on its center of mass, regardless of the outside looks). The dual set of wheels at the front still makes it a recipe for disaster anyway, if traction is actually simulated for each wheel. 
Sure, obviously. But it's important to remember that most rear-wheel-drive vehicles still TURN with the front wheels. The reason you lose control in a spin is because the rear wheels are locked in place and the front wheels have lost control.
Furthermore, this isn't a rear-wheel vehicle, it's all wheel drive. Given there are twice as many tires in the front as in the back, it would be very strange if the rear wheels were able to completely overpower the front wheels.
And even if they COULD, the angle of the wheels shouldn't allow for that. If you're rotating right, with your front wheels left, the rear wheels would be angled RIGHT, which would only serve to counteract the rotation.
In a real vehicle, the only possible outcome of this would be flipping over or skidding sideways, NOT ending up in an inexplicable counterspin directly opposite to the direction of the tires. Because if you're sliding opposite to the rotation of the tires, the tires have absolutely zero traction, and won't be doing anything at all, including guiding the rotation of the vehicle.
Always hated the SRV handling- felt like a whole fun game aspect was stolen and replaced by frustration.
I've never said anything about/against that. It's absolutely the best response right now, which is what I said right in the first post. Which is why I was ignoring it when people repeated it; repeating what I've already said isn't helpful.
I only said that I wish they'd allow you to disable the downward thrusters so such behavior wasn't necessary. Because the way it currently works doesn't make any sense based on the physics we observe in reality, and how the SRV is depicted to function.
Functionally, the current SRV is driving like it's pure rear-wheel drive.
Burn the heretic!