I'm a franchise player. I almost never play sandbox. As I've said before, zoos in real-life substitute species that look similar. We don't have the Eurasian brown bear and we likely never will, but at least we can pretend that some in-game species are what we want them to be. They look similar, and honestly, most people probably wouldn't even tell the difference between the 2 bears
It is shameful for Frontier that you cannot create a European zoo!
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Yeah i was thinking more along the lines of the range of biomes leading to a greater range of distinct animals over the sheer number of animals. Nothing can compete with africa regarding the number of species.
That Africa, taking away all the species and leaving the rest of the continents with scraps like kangaroos, raccoons, and deer
I just wanna clarify that I'm not against having more European animals in the game.
But, when it comes down to it, we can build a nice little spot for Europe already. Would more species be useful? Yes, totally they would. But I really don't see it happening.
I feel like the main focus of the community is to bring in missing key species from different continents, usually with Africa, Asia, and even Oceania being the headliners for these.
Europe tends to be forgotten, but most agree that the most important is the wild boar, followed by the wisent.
But I think our focus should be building up South America's roster, because it's more shameful for this continent to have less animals than Oceania in-game
But, when it comes down to it, we can build a nice little spot for Europe already. Would more species be useful? Yes, totally they would. But I really don't see it happening.
I feel like the main focus of the community is to bring in missing key species from different continents, usually with Africa, Asia, and even Oceania being the headliners for these.
Europe tends to be forgotten, but most agree that the most important is the wild boar, followed by the wisent.
But I think our focus should be building up South America's roster, because it's more shameful for this continent to have less animals than Oceania in-game
I’m a sandbox player and I never use substitutes.
Not least because the in-game Himalayan brown bear looks nothing like a European brown bear and is one of the worst made base game animals in my view.
It’s not fit for the purpose it already has, let alone being a substitute for something else.
Not least because the in-game Himalayan brown bear looks nothing like a European brown bear and is one of the worst made base game animals in my view.
It’s not fit for the purpose it already has, let alone being a substitute for something else.
I totally agree. I'm hoping that the devs can remodel the base game animals. If modders can do it, with limited tools, then the devs can definitely do it
Cause 3 brown bears in one game are dumb, so are multiple cold weather grey wolf subspecies or a second identical beaver
Whats the difference besides the name you type in the searchbar? I genuinly do not know
For everyone who is saying that the bears look's to different
Three of these bears are eurasian while the other three are grizzly, which ones?
Btw europe is fine, there's like 2 or 3 animals that feels nice but not essential, i would argue that having the same ammount of animals as SA shows how complete europe is while showing SA depressing state.
Three of these bears are eurasian while the other three are grizzly, which ones?
Btw europe is fine, there's like 2 or 3 animals that feels nice but not essential, i would argue that having the same ammount of animals as SA shows how complete europe is while showing SA depressing state.
Well, I see your point and agree with it, but when you know why a grizzly is called a grizzly, it isn't hard
At 1st glance, though, it's more likely you wouldn't tell which is which...
I figured it all out!
Brown bear #1
Brown bear #2
Brown bear #3
Brown bear #4
Brown bear #5
Brown bear #6
In the Franchise, the name you enter in the search bar!!! If all brown bears are perfectly the same, why were different subspecies classified?!
Tbqh, I think if we got the alpine marmot, European bison, Europe wildcat, western capercaillie and wild boar that would ‘complete Europe’ to a satisfactory extent.
Should these animals be prioritised over other regions? Not all of them but we haven’t received a widespread European species in over year so it’s definitely time for a couple to be added.
Fortunately, the winter DLCs generally seem to focus on colder weather animals. Hopefully we’ll get a couple!
Should these animals be prioritised over other regions? Not all of them but we haven’t received a widespread European species in over year so it’s definitely time for a couple to be added.
Fortunately, the winter DLCs generally seem to focus on colder weather animals. Hopefully we’ll get a couple!
To be fair, south america is the continent where the gaps are the most noticeable. Just some common habitat animals in zoos from SA:
- Mara
- Rhea
- Coati
- Ocelot
- Howler monkeys
- Spider monkeys
- Squirrel monkeys
- Tamarins
- Marmosets
- Tamandua
- Peccary
- Spectacled bear
- Guanaco/vicunia.
Compare to the other continents, where we largely have the basics covered.
Throw in the wisent and the wild boar and I’d say Europe is complete. I’m sure there’s a few more I’d take but really those 2 alone are the most important missing European animals. I’d like a EBB don’t get me wrong but personally I’ll take a Sumatran tiger any day of the week if we we’re choosing clone type animals. But I get wanting similar species but I’d hardly consider the EBB essential. Does anyone even know how common they are in captivity by chance. To me this is where the whole missing animals by continent or regions falls flat on its face because in real life zoos it just doesn’t work that way.
I can answer that, because I think "substituting" is really dumb - click on your "Eurasian brown bear" and what species does it say it is? Not "Eurasian brown bear". The illusion is shattered as soon as you look at it for more than 2 seconds.
That said this whole thread is stupid. Bad takes in every direction. Not least because you can very easily build a realistic European zoo without the brown bear, wisent, or wild boar which don't even feature in a lot of major European zoos.
According to zootierliste, 181 zoos hold the EBB so fairly common.
No offence but if i would be hindered by such a trivial thing i couldnt play the game at all. Keepers carrying elephants in a small box? Illusion shattered. Keepers just walking into a tiger enclosure? Illusion shattered. Escaping lion not tearing guests to shreds? Illusion shattered.
You talk about, which continent has highest amount of possible habitat inclusions?
Easily Asia, Southeast Asia doing hard carry.
I really don’t get how we can describe anywhere as being ‘complete’. I get that we aren’t likely to have all of these but to be anywhere close to complete as well as wisent and wild boar you would need:
Eurasian otter
Alpine marmot
European brown bear
Chamois
Roe deer
Harbour seal
Mouflon
Musk ox
Wolverine
Iberian lynx
Iberian ibex
Iberian wolf
Mink
European wildcat
Pine marten
Eurasian beaver
White stork
Eurasian crane
Capercaillie
Multiple ducks, geese and swans
Dalmatian pelican
Various domestics/rare breeds