There is an actual website that advertises 'gold farming' across many different games including. I cant post it directly on these forums but its not hard to find in there are two at least. So based on my evidence I can negate your assertion either way again what gives you the monopoly on opinions?
I've Been A Bad Dog Today
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I recently did this too but I'm so jaded, I had the whole engineer grind done in 10 days, 500m in the bank and all 5 ships I consider essential. I then had to wait two more weeks twiddling my thumbs for prismatics (pledged first day 
), then done in a day, I'm almost trade elite, won't take long, after I move out to Colonia. I've basically got two players at the same level of capability now, one in Colonia and one in the Bubble. On the one hand I'm pleased, I have two fully pvp ready accounts, but on the other hand, the sense of purpose was so fleeting. I admit to cheating slightly and selling some (150m worth) LTD ridiculously cheap from my main to my alt, to help things along, but apart from that, I ground it out the old fashioned way.
One thing I can certainly confirm is that the game has gotten much easier, as long as you're prepared to search for the requisite knowledge (or possess it already).
), then done in a day, I'm almost trade elite, won't take long, after I move out to Colonia. I've basically got two players at the same level of capability now, one in Colonia and one in the Bubble. On the one hand I'm pleased, I have two fully pvp ready accounts, but on the other hand, the sense of purpose was so fleeting. I admit to cheating slightly and selling some (150m worth) LTD ridiculously cheap from my main to my alt, to help things along, but apart from that, I ground it out the old fashioned way. One thing I can certainly confirm is that the game has gotten much easier, as long as you're prepared to search for the requisite knowledge (or possess it already).
You should change your name to strawman mate, I never said you weren't entitled to an opinion.
As for goldfarming websites I'm well aware that they exist. I wouldn't have thought that a niche space game in which credits basically fall into your hold every time you log in would have been a particularly big noise on them, at least when compared to the more traditional targets for goldfarming, but I'm fully prepared to accept that I'd underestimated just how tragic some people are.
Last I head Elite has around 3 million accounts sold. Since you obviously visit the website concerned, can you give me an idea of how many accounts might appear to be making use of their services just out of curiosity?
Gold selling is not a 'major issue' in any game that it exists in, that I am aware of. As an ex hardcore player of wow, and member of a top guild, I was required to buy gold regularly on new characters that were needed for a certain boss fights. if I hadn't done that, I'd have lost my place to someone with less moral scruples. Society is overtly capitalist, it's natural. In fact it's a measure of the success of an mmo that they exist.
Cheating (hacking, trainers, etc) is a major issue, even if it happens rarely. Gold selling I can deal with.
Cheating (hacking, trainers, etc) is a major issue, even if it happens rarely. Gold selling I can deal with.
Er go find it your self 'mate'. I've been on the web since the beginning so I've visited many site. Know your enemy that sort of thing.
Well each buyers actually posts a thankyou that reveals part of there emails that demonstrates what numpties they are.
Its is for me in ED. That probably why i never bothered with WOW. I hear bla bla bla justifying my actions.
I can't be bothered, I'm not the one suggesting it's a significant issue for this game.
I hit a point where I would normally go for a clean save on my alt account. I was grinding too much with it, and it was far past the point of the new player experience.
Time for a change. I wasn't going to waste the grind I had put in on my main or alt accounts. So, no clean save.
Humble Bundle had a sale going.
I bought a second alt account for about $13 USD. Base game and Horizons. I now have three accounts. The only thing I will miss from my main account is a Cobra 4.
The experience is wonderful. I'm not repeating what I did with the first alt account. It's staying with one ship, and any progression via ranks, engineering, etc. will be accidental. No beating myself up. No giant fleet, and the logistics of umpteen parts. No hoarding of engineered modules. No bromelite or painite or Lavian Brandy or Kamitra Cigars.
I learned this from the friends I bought the game for. They played the game for fun.
Currently, I have an Adder that will last a long time. Did it in four hours. Not having to mine for mats/big money is just fantastic. I just run missions, and trade, and turn in the occasional astro data.
Also, no big bucks on cosmetics. And, my CDR is one ugly SOB.
The best surprise of all was the commander name was not taken yet. I'm stunned that someone at least as grumpy as myself hadn't taken it yet. No profanity or vulgarity, just a statement about the game that dates from Mr. Space Loach.
No hunting for records in exploration, either. It probably won't be going to Colonia. No CG's. It's a vacation from my regular game.
It feels great. Now, I don't dread starting up the game.
i've pretty much played like this since the beginning
soon as you discard the fleet of ships you hang around your neck, you no longer need all the crap that comes with it, one ship is all you need, bonus is you dont need a FC then either.
just mill about, earn some CR here and there and thats it, dont go hoarding PVP parts either, thats another vicious cycle of despair, if you're on Xbox we often PVP with stock ships, i.e 0 engineering or PP parts, or rank locked ships... its bloody good fun
It's this kind of apathy by player thats also part of the problem. Its is a significant issue in the game. Dont care if you are bothered or not tbh.
Even though your passive aggressive tone and obvious desire to see only demons is mildly disconcerting to me, out of morbid fascination, I'll give this another go around. Why is it a problem for you if people want to shortcut the mining grind? No doubt you'll say I don't have to mine, but those of us who value our time are forced to do whatever is efficient so we can get it done and get to the activity we like to do in the game, so yeh, I do 'have' to mine when it's time to make a few more rebuys. I don't buy gold in elite I mine for it, but frankly, I'd rather squeeze my own eyeballs, so I can certainly understand why someone might want to use their own personal wealth to avoid that grind, and I'd much rather resources were directed toward 'real' problems like hacking and trainers, etc.
I know you don't like reading words, but the option is there, that's my explanation and I find it rational and not entitled. Please can you articulate to me what the problem is with low scale, low visibility gold sellers, as found in several successful MMOs?
Basically it breaks the EULA of ED and probably other games. You could always know in WOW who earnt there skills wealth etc since they developed the behaviours along the way That meme was higlted in Ready Player I know alot about WOW though I didnt atualy 'play' it.
Er You dont know I DOnt like reading words. There is alot of passive aggressive on thesw forums. Like I said If 'gold farming' is condones player ts just lets it drag on. I never suggested I think activities dont induce the effects you suggest but thats how the game is set up.
Why is it bad? Statistics suggest that gold selling has a mainly positive effect on mmo populations, particularly when it comes to returning players (a common reason cited why the rules are not harshly enforced in many cases), I'm curious what you think the actual issue is. Quoting the eula doesn't cut it. The eula says 10 things that most players I know break on a daily basis in this and 100 other games. It comes down to a personal moral code, why is yours against gold selling, per se? You don't have to answer if you don't want, I'm just asking.
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Ruh, ro!
The Curse Of Stealthie has been cast on me!
Because I know what I'm doing this time around, I already have two million, and the Adder's cargo hold isn't enough.
Escaping into space in a ship seems to be the next thing.
Imagine a non-engineered explorer, nowadays....
The Curse Of Stealthie has been cast on me!
Because I know what I'm doing this time around, I already have two million, and the Adder's cargo hold isn't enough.
Escaping into space in a ship seems to be the next thing.
Imagine a non-engineered explorer, nowadays....
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One way around this, sort of, is to buy an FC, put all your ships (except for one stock Sidewinder) on it, tip all your money into it's balance, possibly leaving enough for a Sidey Rebuy, then dismiss the FC miles away. There you are, stuck in a system, just a stock Sidewinder and no money.
Obviously it doesn't undo unlocked ranks and so on but it is a start.
Hard rules for this account:
One ship.
No bribes.
No rank grind.
No collection of engineered modules (wasted grind).
No large ship.
Makes life easier, regardless of what level I'm at. The other accounts may follow suit. The first alt account might just simply reduce it's fleet, and stop chasing things. Good for mental health.
Once you know how to play, you tend to advance pretty fast. Having three accounts is madness, but it was cheap. At least I will have a single ship account for something crazier than usual for me...
One ship.
No bribes.
No rank grind.
No collection of engineered modules (wasted grind).
No large ship.
Makes life easier, regardless of what level I'm at. The other accounts may follow suit. The first alt account might just simply reduce it's fleet, and stop chasing things. Good for mental health.
Once you know how to play, you tend to advance pretty fast. Having three accounts is madness, but it was cheap. At least I will have a single ship account for something crazier than usual for me...
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You will find that the most challenging aspect in Elite in 2020 is to avoid making phat stacks of credits.
Well, I'm pushing the barrier. Sold the Adder. I bought a Cobra 3 today. Forty tons of cargo. C rated power and jump drive. Rebuy is about 15k, and I have 1.3 million.
I made Dealer in trade.
No scanners. No interdictors. Only pulse lasers for weapons. No DSS.
Man, this is simple.
I made Dealer in trade.
No scanners. No interdictors. Only pulse lasers for weapons. No DSS.
Man, this is simple.
Promoted to Merchant, and I have 3.6 million in cash. Oy vey.
'Apathy' implies that I could do something about it if I chose to. But I can't.
I don't use goldfarming websites simply because when I play a game I want to enjoy the experience that the developers intended me to have and shortcutting aspects of the game's progression obviously negates that. Even going back 30 years and more, I'd only ever use a cheat code for a game after first having played through it completely vanilla, and even then only used them very infrequently, usually to allow me to enjoy playing a game in a sandbox style. It's just not my thing and never has been.
With Elite I've played it for a few weeks short of five years and have never, literally never, used cheats or any other form of artificially enhanced progression. That includes the numerous exploits that have existed to allow rapid credit accumulation. I mean sure, I've probably inadvertently done so (for example, I know I must have definitely stacked some skimmer kill missions back when that was a thing) but as soon as it's been made clear that a particular gameplay mechanic is considered to be an exploit I've never done them again regardless of whether they've been patched out or not. I just don't like playing games that way.
So unless you have some suggestions as to what I, as a single and honest player with one account, can personally do to prevent this supposedly heinous abuse, I think we're done here.
OK, A rated power and jump. 24 light-years. Enough to go out into the black.