It is called "Elite Dangerous" for a reason, one of the dangers is you can end up in gaol pretty easily through no fault of your own...
Jailed for self-defence during reactivation mission... what gives
- Thread starter Neilski
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The 100k fine is the one for stealing a power regulator from a Restore mission, as in: you pick the mission, get the regulator handed to you, cancel the mission, the regulator stays with you, you get the fine.Had it happen again, I got jumped and forgot to put my shield on, 100k fine even though there's nothing in the log so have to respawn at a prison ship, without my ship so also have to pay for the trip back too.
No explination for the "fine". These missions are bugged AF
From the looks of it, these missions are actually fining you for stealing the regulator upon death, even thought it gets removed from your inventory. Then this is grounds for FDev to fix this by either: let the regulator stay with you, charge the fine, and fail the mission; or, don't fine you, spawn back at station, remove the regulator, and fail the mission.
There is no point in punishing for something that doesn't happen. This is straight out non-logical and unfair.
Now we hope for some community manager to catch this and pass it forward, since it won't pass on the Issue Tracker and is an actual balance issue, not strictly gameplay issue. And I hope this gets treated well, because this affects new players more than experienced, and a bottleneck like this can take people off Odd very quickly. Restore missions are great for easily getting upgrade stuff, since you have full access for the settlement upon re-powering it, with no one to shoot you for making an illegal download or cashing in some assets or goods.
As the creator of the PBSF I am just very disappointed that you thought this behaviour was acceptable 
If you lose the mission-provided regulator, you get fined 100K. Doesn't matter if your intent was to steal it or not. Since dying on a mission immediately fails it, that always counts as losing the regulator even if you stowed it in a vehicle first.
Also having a fine instead of a bounty just means the authorities won't murder you on sight. But if you get captured/rescued inside the jurisdiction of a faction that has issued you a fine (and if you're in their settlement for a mission then you're in their jurisdiction), they're going to take advantage of the situation to take you to jail and force you to pay the fine.
Whether that's fair or not is open to debate but it's an understandable mechanic and not a bug.
Also having a fine instead of a bounty just means the authorities won't murder you on sight. But if you get captured/rescued inside the jurisdiction of a faction that has issued you a fine (and if you're in their settlement for a mission then you're in their jurisdiction), they're going to take advantage of the situation to take you to jail and force you to pay the fine.
Whether that's fair or not is open to debate but it's an understandable mechanic and not a bug.
LOL!As the creator of the PBSF I am just very disappointed that you thought this behaviour was acceptable
They shot at me first, your honour I was innocently trying to power up the base...Hmm, are you sure? I thought fines never converted to jail time. (Also, I didn't get a 100k fine for the regulator. This was back in April though, so I had to read the OP to remember.)
you always get a fine of 100k when failing/abandoning a mission that involves a Power Regulator
Actually it's the most convenient way to lower rep with Sirius to unlock Uma AND stock up on PR - go in Sirius infested systems when they're in favorable states to generate restore missions, then pick and abandon those missions, pay the fines and keep the PR, pick some more and so on.
Ah yes good point, I rechecked the ancient screenshots and indeed I had a 100k in "legal costs (bounties and fines)" which was presumably for the PR.
Incidentally, I also rechecked where I was: it was Engel Excavation Hub (on V2213 Ophiuchii ABC 1 e) and it actually belonged to PBSF, i.e. they owned the settlement and gave me the mission. (The bounty entry above was to be paid by them - I regularly get confused by the way the journal entries are displayed in EDDiscovery, between the
"Victim faction" and the "Faction: Pixel Bandits Security Force" bits. So @PBSF Pendragon can relax - no PBSF personnel were harmed (by me at least!)
)If you're walking in one of their Odyssey settlements and have a fine from them when they scan you, surely they start shooting? They don't carry handcuffs...
They won't shoot you for just a fine, like if you show up with a reckless flying ticket on your record. For a bounty issued by them on the other hand, like for say murder, they will draw on you.
OTOH, they will quite happily issue you a fine (not a bounty!) for trespassing, theft, etc. and then also murder you for the same offence. Why issue a "harmless" fine if they're going to kill you anyway...
It ensures that you're going to jail if they do manage to "critically injure" you, but if you escape you're not KOS to the whole faction just for helping yourself to the silverware.