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This is entirely your opinion and not at all based on fact.
It's just my opinion I haven't seen a player in the last couple of weeks?

But please continue to tell me that open play is by no means risky. and that the only risk you take is the location you choose to fly and not whether or not you hide in solo/private group that bans non-consenual pvper's, or you face the dangers of open like a normal person.
My pleasure. Open Play is by no means risky, the risk is linked to the location you choose to go to.

Now, do you have any argument against that or do I have to argue against: "Is not!"?

Finally, show me a normal person.
 
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It's just my opinion I haven't seen a player in the last couple of weeks?


My pleasure. Open Play is by no means risky, the risk is linked to the location you choose to go to.

Now, do you have any argument against that or do I have to argue against: "Is not!"?

Finally, show me a normal person.

Gadzooks Ziggy, you mean i am not Normal? Damn and Blast how am i going to cope for the rest of this Friday
 
Yeah like what you guys are doing is remotely similar to the complexities of chess.

Don't read too much into my use of "chess" for the open playground analogy, I just meant that we're happy doing something ELSE and aren't interested in playing your game (remember, this was in response to the suggestion that we form a squad and start fighting back).
 
Don't read too much into my use of "chess" for the open playground analogy, I just meant that we're happy doing something ELSE and aren't interested in playing your game (remember, this was in response to the suggestion that we form a squad and start fighting back).

How times have changed, Chess in the playground, in my day it was footy and stuff behind the bike shed (Not Chess ;) )
 
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You could fire back of course? and after ship transfer arrives you could summon some serious firepower when exiting the station :D


Actually, no. Not without being instantly destroyed by the station the moment you squeeze the trigger. The sacrificial Eagle or Sidey (or their wingmate) doesn't have a bounty, so attacking them only paints the bullseye on you, instead. That's part of what makes it an effective ganking method; the station protects the gankers on top of lending them insta-kill firepower.

It just underscores the need for a crime and punishment system with actual teeth.
 
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Actually, no. Not without being instantly destroyed by the station the moment you squeeze the trigger. The sacrificial Eagle or Sidey (or their wingmate) doesn't have a bounty, so attacking them only paints the bullseye on you, instead. That's part of what makes it an effective ganking method; the station protects the gankers on top of lending them insta-kill firepower.

It just underscores the need for a crime and punishment system with actual teeth.

ok that to me is ganking or 'griefing via an exploit', and like any exploit that is up to FDev to shutdown. Crime and punishment is a separate issue and shouldn't be used to stamp on exploits.
 
Actually, no. Not without being instantly destroyed by the station the moment you squeeze the trigger. The sacrificial Eagle or Sidey (or their wingmate) doesn't have a bounty, so attacking them only paints the bullseye on you, instead. That's part of what makes it an effective ganking method; the station protects the gankers on top of lending them insta-kill firepower.

It just underscores the need for a crime and punishment system with actual teeth.

You've nailed it CMDR! Rep. I can't believe there are so many who try to minimize this problem. If they're not bothered by it, why do they engage in these threads anyway?
Something has to be done, that's for sure.

I'd suggest something like this:

- Rising the speed limit to 120 around the stations.
- Enforcement of the no fire zone as follows: Anyone who opens fire whatever the reason (even if it is just shooting empty space) should be destroyed, unless he was not fired upon in the first place (the system security is of course the exception). A visible warning could be displayed if the hard-points are deployed, in order to prevent as much as possible the involuntary triggering of ones arsenal.

That's it. It will solve some of the problems. Like having psychos firing at you along with the station.
It could be a start. There are many solutions, the only thing needed is the willingness to acknowledge the current state and improve the current system.
 
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ok that to me is ganking or 'griefing via an exploit', and like any exploit that is up to FDev to shutdown. Crime and punishment is a separate issue and shouldn't be used to stamp on exploits.

You're right. It's more of an exploit than a legitimate bit of gameplay. Still, it seems to me that closing this particular exploit would be tricky at best. All of the solutions that come to mind strike me as draconian and potentially disastrous to new or unskilled players.

The obvious solution is to just keep the speed around stations under control. They can still camp-gank and boost-ram in the hangar, of course- but at least the suicide tactic is out.
 
You're right. It's more of an exploit than a legitimate bit of gameplay. Still, it seems to me that closing this particular exploit would be tricky at best. All of the solutions that come to mind strike me as draconian and potentially disastrous to new or unskilled players.

The obvious solution is to just keep the speed around stations under control. They can still camp-gank and boost-ram in the hangar, of course- but at least the suicide tactic is out.

The Solution i have in mind is Not draconian or difficult and it has no effect on new players or old players, this solutions is............


WAIT FOR IT.............



are you ready?.........



Make the actual No fire zone, which we all know about, an 'ACTUAL NO BLOODY FIRE ZONE'!!!

You see it's not draconian, it;s not difficult, it just needs FD to actually make the damn thing work. If ANYONE fires in the 'No Fire Zone' the security ships and Station fire back? Simples

I really don't know how simple i can make it FD!

as i said in my first post on this thread, i watched these 2 clowns sit outside the station and insta fire missiles and all weapons at cmdrs coming out of the slot. Yes they got a wanted status eventually, and when scanned the system security ships started on them, but the clown in the conda had Prismatics, Loadsa Shield Cell Banks and just stayed motionless firing at the ships coming out of the slot, 4 security ships were firing at him at this stage, and all he kept doing was SCB.........SCB....SCB
If the Station opened fire he would have been dead in about the time it takes to say ' This Moron is now dead meat'
 
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than you are plying the wrong game my friend, this game have guns, hatch breakers and wing options, they are there for me to use it rather you like it or not. it is you decision to call me a bully but the fact stays that i use what the game have to offer me, while you decide to use only half of it and complain about the other. you wanna play chess? go ahead, but we are in the same play ground and we want to play WWE so dont be surprised that a chair hit you on the head.

and about the " we dont want to play with you" - than go away to mobius. it's you that is being annoyed im perfectly fine here, and your moaning is not helping anyone here

your claim that open play should be a safe space while PVP and piracy are game mechanic is childish, we all need to play your game because you decided that you dont want PVP, keep all your cargo or whatever you doing, and stay in open. so sorry to break this to you mate, but it is your decision to stay on open and trust me no body is going to stop killing because you cant deal with it. on on this same "bully" i can say the same thing about your privet groups - you dominate the BGS in insane numbers and effect mine and many other factions game without us being able to stop you or do anything to counter it, thats bullying!

Bla bla bla you keep saying that, as if griefing with no consequences was ok. Then you act surprised when people use their magic disconnection drive on you... Poor baby, the other children don't want to play with you, maybe next time you should ask yourself WHY k?
 
Other than that, as long as you're not cheating, it's fair game in open and that's how it should be. If you're in a trader or explorer ship and 4 guys in a wing drop on you.. oh well. It's not griefing. It's not ganking. It's hardly honorable but nobody said you had to be honorable. It's why open exists and why other modes exist. Station camping however, is not supposed to be valid gameplay and should be corrected.


I imagine a football field where a group of friends are playing. Then some random guy comes on the field and just starts getting in the way, obstructing play. It's a free country. It's hardly honourable. It's how it should be.

Really?
 
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