Jameson under lockdown??

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I also base my home out of Jameson and have since day 1. If the station is bombed and I need to use it I just log out and go play something else. If I fly out to Drac and it's been bombed I just log out... no sense even playing with UA bombing trolls. Let them waste their time and energy lol I won't waste mine. You should do the same. The less people playing and complaining is for the better in this case.
 
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What I don't get is if a player or group of players disrupt a permit locked system state why they don't get their permit revoked. And specially in a system like Shinrarta Dezra, "home" of the Pilots Federation no less. That would make perfect sense to me.
 
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The Lockdown mechanism is really a very poor one in its current state.

FD should keep it, but instead tie it to pilot reputation with stations' controlling factions and/or their current outstanding fines/bounties.
Have it penalize the criminals, rather than everybody.

For those with good standing, Lockdown should be apparent based on higher security presence, increased police interdictions and scanning, and perhaps a requirement to visit a Checkpoint for scanning before being allowed to dock.
 
Convoluted you say?

Killing police in the game. Hmm real hard to do isnt it. Must be a brain buster. Blowing up trade ships, well lets hope they dont think to hard on that it could hurt them.

You act as if anything they are doing is difficult or requires actual thought. Heck the hardest way to grief in this game is to go out and collect UAs and even they are so simple to find its ludicrious.

They are not manipulating the BGS that is supposed to be shut off for Jameson in any meaningful way. Taking a hammer and smashing your cell phone because you want it to stop ringing is the easiest option, but also did not require much in the way of thinking.

These people are the same. Don't try and make them out to geniuses.

So, what I gather from your posts is that you have to have a genius tier intelligence level to do anything more complex than tie your shoes, correct? I'm not saying anyone is pulling off a genius move. I'm saying that you obviously have a stick up your bum and your mother must be very proud of you for completing menial daily activities if you really think that people pointing out Frontier's flaws in-game using in-game tools is really such a travesty.

You've lumped every griefer into a single group without leaving your own little private safe haven. You're part of the problem with this forum, much as I said in my original reply.

I also base my home out of Jameson and have since day 1. If the station is bombed and I need to use it I just log out and go play something else. If I fly out to Drac and it's been bombed I just log out... no sense even playing with UA bombing trolls. Let them waste their time and energy lol I won't waste mine. You should do the same. The less people playing and complaining is for the better in this case.

Oh, two out of literally thousands of stations are shut down, oh well, no point in playing the game now.

What? What did I just read?
 
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What I don't get is if a player or group of players disrupt a permit locked system state why they don't get their permit revoked. And specially in a system like Shinrarta Dezra, "home" of the Pilots Federation no less. That would make perfect sense to me.

yup agree - i your name has been taken off the list youre not coming in for a while, even if "your girlfriend is in there"
but we're back to the crime 'n' punishment discussion again. The consequences for the people impacted are greater than those like to set things on fire. v-vandelism becomes v-terrorism. Perhaps the Thargoids will smell out the trouble makers and drag them aside for more "chats" than the rest of us . In a twist, they provide more danger but some balance. Now there's an idea ......
 
So your idea of justice for becoming Elite is to make the one and only Benefit of being Elite is take away access to Jameson? You know very well the only reason to cause Jameson to go into lockdown is just a vie for attention. If you state otherwise, then you are either fooling yourself or are of the same worthless mindset as the ones who continually do this for no reason.

The same with the losers doing station ramming and killing the new players in the starting area. Trying to hide behind a non existent veil of righteousness because of a made up moral high ground. Come on you gotta be kidding me. These people can barely tie their shoes let alone have enough intelligence or experience in the world to have a sense of morality.

Dont try and defend these people because the entire community knows that they are ats and you cant do anything to change their mind. A fact is a fact and when you try to defend the fallacy of their "playstyle" as something viable, then you are also part of the problem.

agree - vandals with rattle tins spraying a wall
on a more positive note a bunch of us washed the wall down and got us back out of lockdown
but request to FD on this subject .... can we have somthing around permits, even if its just for SD as this, as you correctly state is a reward and privilege thats earned ... and should be at risk of losing .

Yes, some vandals are good artists, but their mess is aimed at causing problems/cost for others, hence, amoral.

I enjoyed the gameplay and community spirit of pushing SD out of lockdown and i recognise people have the right to push it the other way, but there have to be conseqnces. There were consequences for those of us that spent 2 days in SD handing in bounties so why not for the other permit holders who left the grafitti

:)

3..2..1 incoming
 
So, what I gather from your posts is that you have to have a genius tier intelligence level to do anything more complex than tie your shoes, correct? I'm not saying anyone is pulling off a genius move. I'm saying that you obviously have a stick up your bum and your mother must be very proud of you for completing menial daily activities if you really think that people pointing out Frontier's flaws in-game using in-game tools is really such a travesty.

You've lumped every griefer into a single group without leaving your own little private safe haven. You're part of the problem with this forum, much as I said in my original reply.



Oh, two out of literally thousands of stations are shut down, oh well, no point in playing the game now.

What? What did I just read?

I have a Bachelors in computer Sciences and minored in psychology. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt what crowd of people you belong in. Every griefer is lumped into a group. They are a category of players who do anything and everything possible to disrupt everyone elses time.

I have over 30 years experience with all forms of gaming as a hobby and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the people you are standing up for are worthless at best. If they were not hiding behind the fact that they are anonymous and physically untouchable, then you would not see them in this game. Anonymity allows any human to look beyond cultural norms and morality and act with complete malice and lack of empathy.

Those who utilize anonymity as a shield against morality in any setting real or virtual leans to specific mindsets. Lower mental capacity and lack of imagination or psychotic tendencies and lack of morality. Now seeing as how most real psychopaths would not be playing video games or interacting with a community in any way, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and attributing it to the mental capacity aspect. If you want to call them all psychopaths, then you can go ahead and make that distinction because I am not.

They are not pointing anything out. They are not doing this to help the game. They are doing these thing to the games detriment. As soon as it does require actual thinking or effort on their part, they will move along and try and find something else to exploit. When FDEV have finally nailed all the easy exploits, these people will leave the game entirely. They have no other purpose. However the damage they have done to the community and potential new players are permanent. So they will leave the legacy of making the game worse in the long run. Which I am sure makes them happy as pigs in slop.
 
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You have an education and have wasted your life at a desk both at work and at home! I'm sure your parents are proud. I, however, am highly amused that you feel the need to assert your dominance in this argument via credentials. Please, continue.

1: Nothing going on at Jameson or in Shinrata is detrimental to the game itself. Only to those who cannot fathom having their game influenced by a source external to their own input.
2: For something to be considered an exploit in video games (which you should know this definition well if you've been at it for 30 years) then the exploit needs to provide players utilizing it with an advantage over players not utilizing it. Credit holes are not exploits as credits don't provide you with the advantage as things currently stand in-game.
3: They are pointing out how shallow the BGS mechanics are. Of course, there are other items in this game that I personally feel should be focused on first.
4: In a bubble with thousands of systems and exponentially more stations, if the loss of one or two stations is so detrimental to you that you need to begin labeling the groups of players causing said loss as psychotic, lacking in mental capabilities or morality, then I feel that the problem is with you.

30 years of gaming experience should have prepared you for hardship.
30 years of online gaming experience should have prepared and hardened you against trolls.
30+ years of life should have raised your maturity levels a bit.

Yet here we are, 30 years later and you resort to petty name calling while hiding behind the veneer of education to do so. Congrats. You win at life.
 
So after hashing this out for 21 pages, Jaymo is out of lockdown. If it's such a facile task to manipulate the BGS to start a lockdown, why bother with the whinethology? Why not put your shoulder into it and lift the ban like others did?

Also, TIL that manipulating the BGS from PG is griefing. My sides.
 
I have a Bachelors in computer Sciences and minored in psychology. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt what crowd of people you belong in. Every griefer is lumped into a group. They are a category of players who do anything and everything possible to disrupt everyone elses time.

I have over 30 years experience with all forms of gaming as a hobby and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the people you are standing up for are worthless at best. If they were not hiding behind the fact that they are anonymous and physically untouchable, then you would not see them in this game. Anonymity allows any human to look beyond cultural norms and morality and act with complete malice and lack of empathy.

Those who utilize anonymity as a shield against morality in any setting real or virtual leans to specific mindsets. Lower mental capacity and lack of imagination or psychotic tendencies and lack of morality. Now seeing as how most real psychopaths would not be playing video games or interacting with a community in any way, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and attributing it to the mental capacity aspect. If you want to call them all psychopaths, then you can go ahead and make that distinction because I am not.

They are not pointing anything out. They are not doing this to help the game. They are doing these thing to the games detriment. As soon as it does require actual thinking or effort on their part, they will move along and try and find something else to exploit. When FDEV have finally nailed all the easy exploits, these people will leave the game entirely. They have no other purpose. However the damage they have done to the community and potential new players are permanent. So they will leave the legacy of making the game worse in the long run. Which I am sure makes them happy as pigs in slop.

Worthless eh? You're assuming because I like killing people in a video game I'm worthless? Lower mental capacity, lmao!
 
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