Jurassic World Omnivore Pack

[JeffersMorning]

Now I don't if anyone remembers this supposed leak, but going into what might be the last full year of DLC before JW3 comes out I thought I'd bring it on up for discussion. This was a leak from before RJP came out and was reported on by sources like Best in Slot.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tH61r8nS34


Since then though we've had little news or further speculation. We're also nearly halfway through January and we've not even an inkling of what the next dlc will be. I'm really hoping it might be this and here's why I think it might happen.

1. We've had a Carnivore, Herbivore and Cretaceous Dinosaur pack. If this is the last full year of DLC we get it would make sense for the final 3 Dino Pack (two this year one and in 2020) to follow the Omnivore, Triassic and Jurassic track.

2. Dinosaur diets have changed in the past. Spinosaurids were given fish feeders as part of a free update along with other additional needs. If this pack does come out it could come alongside a free update that introduces Omnivores to the game that could eat from plant or new speciality feeders (eggs, bugs, etc) and introduce a dietary balance need for omnivorous dinosaurs.

3. This would allow for a wider variety of iconic dinosaurs to be introduced that don't necessarily fit into the either herbivore or carnivore spectrum, like Oviraptor.

4. While not all leaks are credible, we've had an uptick in relatively and near-perfectly accurate DLC leaks. I believe that longer JWE is out the more accurate the leaks will become because the ratio of those passionate about the game will overshadow the trolls and attention seekers who create inaccurate or wholly false leaks for their own fame and amusement.

Now I give the floor to you. What do you think about this? What sort of dinos would you like to see? What sort of features might be included alongside this?

I have my own thoughts, ideas and desires. Tell me yours.

 

[DragonNTiger]

Pretty sure this one has been discussed before... and there's nothing really to discuss since we can't say anything about it beyond "it's a rumor". In any case, I doubt an Omnivore Pack would need new feeders; any omnivore could easily eat from the standard plant feeders and meat feeders if needed.

EDIT: It's kind of sad that they won't need any new feeders... but then, that's the nature of this overly simplified game that Frontier has created...

 

[Capt.Hunt]

yeah, I suspect that if this were a thing, these dinos would just be capable of eating from any existing feeder. It would be nice if known omnivores that are already in the game, like the ornithimimids were also given that ability, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[JeffersMorning]

yeah, I suspect that if this were a thing, these dinos would just be capable of eating from any existing feeder. It would be nice if known omnivores that are already in the game, like the ornithimimids were also given that ability, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Never say never. Spinosaurids were given unique fish feeders retroactively for free. I'm of the opinion that retroactive dietary changes for certains types of dinosaurs may be very likely.

 

[JeffersMorning]

Pretty sure this one has been discussed before... and there's nothing really to discuss since we can't say anything about it beyond "it's a rumor". In any case, I doubt an Omnivore Pack would need new feeders; any omnivore could easily eat from the standard plant feeders and meat feeders if needed.

EDIT: It's kind of sad that they won't need any new feeders... but then, that's the nature of this overly simplified game that Frontier has created...

I suppose that's true, but Frontier has been trying to improve the complexity of the game. From the aforementioned fish feeders and wetland needs, to the bathroom needs of guests, ranger dangers and even Paleobotany from the Claire's Sanctuary DLC, effort has been made to make the game more than just eye candy and waiting for bars to fill. Is it enough? No. Is it a start? Yes.

While I doubt an egg or bug feeder would be necessary per se I still believe that Frontier might give us one, either because there's enough desire from the community or simply because they can. It's not a guarantee and as you said there are other ways to go about bringing omnivores to the table, so maybe we won't get new unique feeders. If we don't hopefully we get something equally as cool with the time and money spent on other assets or fixes to the game.

 

[Capt.Hunt]

Never say never. Spinosaurids were given unique fish feeders retroactively for free. I'm of the opinion that retroactive dietary changes for certains types of dinosaurs may be very likely.

at the same time, they've not shown a willingness to backport features that are designed for DLC animals into vanilla species. For example, Dilophosaurus' spitting attack is currently cosmetic only. They could have easily turned it into a venom attack when they introduced the Troodon and it's venom mechanic.

 

[JeffersMorning]

at the same time, they've not shown a willingness to backport features that are designed for DLC animals into vanilla species. For example, Dilophosaurus' spitting attack is currently cosmetic only. They could have easily turned it into a venom attack when they introduced the Troodon and it's venom mechanic.

True, not every dinosaur has received an update that would bridge mechanics and lore. Calling it an unwillingness though is a bit of a stretch. There have been updates to certain dinosaurs. Size changes and the plethora of new skins and models. A lot of the heaviest complaints within the past year of development has been about the eye candy. People weren't too happy with the pre RJP raptor skins. Others wanted more park decorations. Frontier has been very receptive to community feedback, but there's only so much time and money they can spend at a given time.

If there are things you want to see and others in the community agree then make your voice heard. We've a whole year and a half to have our say in the direction of this game. I personally am adamant about a Carnotaurus camouflage gene being added. I also believe that venom should be added to the Dilophosaurus and Compsognathus.

Jurassic World Evolution still has plenty of room to grow so instead of being pessimistic, let's be proactive in getting Frontier on-board with our desires.

 

[Aramus418]

I would caution against the belief that leaks increase in accuracy over time. Leakers are in open violation of Non Disclosure Agreements signed as part of their employment. Any company will be cracking down on that even if they can’t discover previous leakers. Also, for example, there were several “Herbivore Pack” leaks that were before the actual Herbivore Pack eventually dropped; so take most of these leaks with a grain of salt even if something of the same name eventually does happen, because a leak is a leak, but what grows in accuracy over time is a hopeful fan who has no insider knowledge but sees the pattern. As someone else already pointed out here; Omnivore, Jurassic, and Triassic dino packs are a safe bet given the current pattern.

Btw: My guess would be a dino pack around March, with something bigger in June-July (this could be an omnivore pack with expanded feeder options). They just did RTJP real big so probably nothing big in March, then the summer is time for another dino pack plus something bigger.

 

[JeffersMorning]

That is a good point. We probably shouldn't be incentivising leakers with our excitement, though it is hard to not be hyped over new content for the game.

The usual cycle as I understand it is Dino Pack - Story DLC - Dino Pack - Story DLC, so given the current trajectory, a Dino Pack is most definitely what we'd be receiving next.

I was the one who brought the naming patterns up btw.

Edit: The only deviations from the DLC cycle have been the Raptor Squad Skin Pack and Vivid Ankylosaurus from the 2018 (?) Jingle Jam.

 

[Thylaco]

Insects would be nice as a feeder, though the only group that absolutely would require it is the Alvarezsaurids, being the only thing they really eat.

The only thing oviraptorids are known to have eaten is a small lizard, but generally they're assumed to be herbivores mostly (a majority egg diet isn't really supported these days, unless you want to argue that they're cannibalistic egg eaters).

 

[DragonNTiger]

Insects would be nice as a feeder, though the only group that absolutely would require it is the Alvarezsaurids, being the only thing they really eat.

While it's certainly true Alvarezsaurids would be the only animals to need an insect feeder, there are animals already in the game that are thought to have consumed them... Compsognathus obviously... but ceratopsians, pachycephalosaurs and hadrosaurs have been suggested to eat insects on occasion...

Personally, I still think a Piscivore Pack would make far more sense than anything else... after all, the feeders are already present in game, but only 4 animals use them. Masiakasaurus, Austroraptor... maybe Deinocheirus (also eats from Tall Feeder)? Or how about Icthyovenator?

 

[Chrishhh]

Now I don't if anyone remembers this supposed leak, but going into what might be the last full year of DLC before JW3 comes out I thought I'd bring it on up for discussion. This was a leak from before RJP came out and was reported on by sources like Best in Slot.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tH61r8nS34


Since then though we've had little news or further speculation. We're also nearly halfway through January and we've not even an inkling of what the next dlc will be. I'm really hoping it might be this and here's why I think it might happen.

1. We've had a Carnivore, Herbivore and Cretaceous Dinosaur pack. If this is the last full year of DLC we get it would make sense for the final 3 Dino Pack (two this year one and in 2020) to follow the Omnivore, Triassic and Jurassic track.

2. Dinosaur diets have changed in the past. Spinosaurids were given fish feeders as part of a free update along with other additional needs. If this pack does come out it could come alongside a free update that introduces Omnivores to the game that could eat from plant or new speciality feeders (eggs, bugs, etc) and introduce a dietary balance need for omnivorous dinosaurs.

3. This would allow for a wider variety of iconic dinosaurs to be introduced that don't necessarily fit into the either herbivore or carnivore spectrum, like Oviraptor.

4. While not all leaks are credible, we've had an uptick in relatively and near-perfectly accurate DLC leaks. I believe that longer JWE is out the more accurate the leaks will become because the ratio of those passionate about the game will overshadow the trolls and attention seekers who create inaccurate or wholly false leaks for their own fame and amusement.

Now I give the floor to you. What do you think about this? What sort of dinos would you like to see? What sort of features might be included alongside this?

I have my own thoughts, ideas and desires. Tell me yours.

I agree and support this idea, but like always it's all in the hands of Frontier. I made a post suggesting the idea of an egg feeding dispenser not that long ago myself, we definitely could use more variety of omnivorous dinosaurs and maybe a few new feeder additions wouldn't hurt as well, so far the only supposed omnivorous species in the game are the three ornithomimus for now.

 

[Thylaco]

Personally, I still think a Piscivore Pack would make far more sense than anything else... after all, the feeders are already present in game, but only 4 animals use them. Masiakasaurus, Austroraptor... maybe Deinocheirus (also eats from Tall Feeder)? Or how about Icthyovenator?

Looking into Masiakasaurus, there's no scientific suggestion that it's a fish eater anywhere, from what I can tell.

Deinochierus has fish reported in it's stomach contents and Austroraptor has conical teeth like those of the Spinosaurs.

Another dinosaur with fish reported from it's stomach contents is Liaoningosaurus (though it's probably too small for the game and seems to be a swimmer, which doesn't seem a possibility at this point).

In the way of other Spinosaurs, Irritator is usually suggested, though I wouldn't be surprised if Ichthyovenator and Irritator were combined into one dinosaur for this game, despite being from opposing subfamilies (I'd say keeping the name Irritator might be more likely, considering it's more often requested).

All in all, I don't think they're going to continue the Diet trend, nor even make a Triassic pack, considering the sheer volume of requests for dinos that don't fit in those remaining themes.

 

[DragonNTiger]

Looking into Masiakasaurus, there's no scientific suggestion that it's a fish eater anywhere, from what I can tell.

To my knowledge, the unusual nature of Masiakasaurus's teeth are generally interpreted as some kind of fish trap.

All in all, I don't think they're going to continue the Diet trend, nor even make a Triassic pack, considering the sheer volume of requests for dinos that don't fit in those remaining themes.

Except there's plenty of demand for dinosaurs that do fit these themes... especially the Triassic one... seriously, two of the most in demand animals are Coelophysis and Plateosaurus, and I'm pretty sure Mussaurus gets plenty of suggestions, if only for appearing in The Lost World novel.

 

[Thylaco]

To my knowledge, the unusual nature of Masiakasaurus's teeth are generally interpreted as some kind of fish trap.
Except there's plenty of demand for dinosaurs that do fit these themes... especially the Triassic one... seriously, two of the most in demand animals are Coelophysis and Plateosaurus, and I'm pretty sure Mussaurus gets plenty of suggestions, if only for appearing in The Lost World novel.

Please, if you find a paper that actually mentions it, feel free to toss it my way, I literally couldn't find anything apart from "presumably highly specialised" and the general meat, insects and maybe fruit from wikipedia, but I don't have paid resources to use.

Mussaurus is the other main Triassic suggestion (though trailing behind by a fair margin, with every other Triassic dino having less than 5 backers), but considering the may 2019 paper, the adults are pretty similar to Plateosaurus these days. As a result it's more likely they'd abandon the theme and put Coelophysis & Plateosaurus in other DLCs instead.

Considering there may only be 15 more dinos in total, they're going to realistically be picking stuff that's highly suggested or occasionally, naturally interesting, of which Mussaurus and the remaining Triassic dinosaurs are neither.

 

[DragonNTiger]

Please, if you find a paper that actually mentions it, feel free to toss it my way, I literally couldn't find anything apart from "presumably highly specialised" and the general meat, insects and maybe fruit from wikipedia, but I don't have paid resources to use.

I'm afraid I have no official sources... just the usual free stuff like wikipedia, which does make mention of "This unique dentition suggests that they had a specialized diet, perhaps including fish and other small prey." In any case, we can say for certain those teeth were definitely used to snag small and slippery things and even if those things weren't fish it wouldn't be the first time Frontier ignored certain facts to make a dinosaur more interesting.

Mussaurus is the other main Triassic suggestion (though trailing behind by a fair margin, with every other Triassic dino having less than 5 backers), but considering the may 2019 paper, the adults are pretty similar to Plateosaurus these days. As a result it's more likely they'd abandon the theme and put Coelophysis & Plateosaurus in other DLCs instead.

Considering there may only be 15 more dinos in total, they're going to realistically be picking stuff that's highly suggested or occasionally, naturally interesting, of which Mussaurus and the remaining Triassic dinosaurs are neither.

I feel like you're assuming a bit too much here... not a lot of people were asking for Nigersaurus and they went and added that to the Herbivore pack... and I can't imagine a lot of people were asking for Olorotitan either. Frontier has proven they're not gonna stick to the in demand stuff and furthermore I highly doubt they just recently decided to limit the number of animals they can still add, so assuming there really is a limit to the number of animals they can still add I'd dare say odds are good they figured this stuff out before they decided to add Nigersaurus, so they're not gonna say "oops, we got a limit now, time to stick to the demanded stuff"... they're gonna keep adding whatever they add because they feel it's best to add it. Besides, a new dinosaur is a new dinosaur, it's not like people aren't going to buy a dinosaur pack because it has one whole dinosaur that nobody asked for...

As for Mussaurus being too similar to Plateosaurus, I can't see how that would matter to Frontier... on the one hand, there are plenty of reconstructions of Mussaurus being a quadruped, and JP being JP means an animal isn't going to be perfectly 100% accurate, so they can easily justify making it a quadruped for the sake of making it more unique if they wanted to. On the other hand, being similar to Plateosaurus would make it easier for Frontier to recycle Plateosaurus assets to make Mussaurus, meaning less time and resources dedicated to including it. In any case, even if they decided not to use Mussaurus it's not like there aren't plenty of other interesting Triassic animals... Eoraptor for example could be the game's first true omnivore or perhaps Buriolestes the carnivorous prosauropod... again, I feel like you're assuming too much, especially if they really can get at least 15 more animals into the game...

 

[Thylaco]

I feel like you're assuming a bit too much here... not a lot of people were asking for Nigersaurus and they went and added that to the Herbivore pack... and I can't imagine a lot of people were asking for Olorotitan either. Frontier has proven they're not gonna stick to the in demand stuff and furthermore I highly doubt they just recently decided to limit the number of animals they can still add, so assuming there really is a limit to the number of animals they can still add I'd dare say odds are good they figured this stuff out before they decided to add Nigersaurus, so they're not gonna say "oops, we got a limit now, time to stick to the demanded stuff"... they're gonna keep adding whatever they add because they feel it's best to add it. Besides, a new dinosaur is a new dinosaur, it's not like people aren't going to buy a dinosaur pack because it has one whole dinosaur that nobody asked for...

As for Mussaurus being too similar to Plateosaurus, I can't see how that would matter to Frontier... on the one hand, there are plenty of reconstructions of Mussaurus being a quadruped, and JP being JP means an animal isn't going to be perfectly 100% accurate, so they can easily justify making it a quadruped for the sake of making it more unique if they wanted to. On the other hand, being similar to Plateosaurus would make it easier for Frontier to recycle Plateosaurus assets to make Mussaurus, meaning less time and resources dedicated to including it. In any case, even if they decided not to use Mussaurus it's not like there aren't plenty of other interesting Triassic animals... Eoraptor for example could be the game's first true omnivore or perhaps Buriolestes the carnivorous prosauropod... again, I feel like you're assuming too much, especially if they really can get at least 15 more animals into the game...

I get the feeling you glossed over something here, Olorotitan and Nigersaurus have at the very least something physically interesting going for them, Mussaurus (even as a quadruped) and the rest of the Triassic dinosaurs do not compare.

Eoraptor and Buriolestes are about as generic as small carnivores get, especially as far as the public is concerned.

All of the nearly unrecognisable dinosaurs are ones that have been requested, expecting Frontier to exert their imagination on something only few want or even know about, is an expectation that just won't be met.

 

[Sounder1995]

If they add in more piscivores, I’d like to see Oxalaia or Sigilmassasaurus with the short legged 2014 Ibrahim interpretation, since they are some of the closest relatives to Spinosaurus. The short legged appearance would make more for the most visually distinctive piscivore they could add (aside from Deinocheirus), in my opinion.

While it's certainly true Alvarezsaurids would be the only animals to need an insect feeder, there are animals already in the game that are thought to have consumed them... Compsognathus obviously... but ceratopsians, pachycephalosaurs and hadrosaurs have been suggested to eat insects on occasion...

Personally, I still think a Piscivore Pack would make far more sense than anything else... after all, the feeders are already present in game, but only 4 animals use them. Masiakasaurus, Austroraptor... maybe Deinocheirus (also eats from Tall Feeder)? Or how about Icthyovenator?

If they add in more piscivores, I’d like to see Oxalaia or Sigilmassasaurus with the short legged 2014 Ibrahim interpretation, since they are some of the closest relatives to Spinosaurus. The short legged appearance would make more for the most visually distinctive piscivore they could add (aside from Deinocheirus), in my opinion.