Darn it. Still another week before I get my Oculus Rift...
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Just got my Oculus Rift
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You're comparing apples with oranges. I'm on a 1080 so I have all the in game settings pretty much maxed. It's not the special fx that's the problem, it's the resolution/screendoor that's limited in VR, not the polycount or texture quality or ambient occlusion, etc. That's all there, it's just really low res (compared to an HD monitor) Try setting all your gfx options to ultra but turn the resolution down to something stupid like 640x480 if you want to simulate HMD but, tbh, without an HMD, you'll struggle to simulate it in 2d - there's a reason we're all playing in low res and loving it. Something that doesn't translate to 2d screens. A little presence goes a long, long way
If you have to lean forward to hit the F12 key, then lean back in your chair, you'll end up behind the flight seat. I use a controller and bound the function to a combo of buttons so I don't have to move to set it.
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Thanks for the tip
I've noticed from various threads that you seem very knowledgeable about the technical aspects of VR. If I may ask, what is your opinion on the 1070 from what you know about it?
Since I got back into PC gaming I've tried to upgrade a cycle behind, or go for powerful but not bleeding edge. I find it is significantly cheaper and PC gaming often feels like people playing Top Trumps when buying parts.... Too much Ram, too powerful a CPU etc that totally exceed requirements and cost a lot more for little gain (like the performance to cost with the 970 and 980). I totally get why people do that but it find it a bit expensive.
Anyhow, yesterday I looked at some reviews and benchmarks of the MSI 1070 GTX and it looks like a very strong card that is only 10-15% behind the 1080 in performance but £270 (AUD 473 cheaper). That is the cost of a PS4 or an all inclusive holiday in Greece for ~5 Fps in 4K. Under normal circumstances that means I'd buy the 1070 but in VR it might make a lot more difference in visual fidelity than 10-15% of however you'd measure that. I suppose I can test the difference from what people say is possible with my 970 when my rift comes (still super excited) but I'd value your input.... Ta
Hey Gortron -
Thanks for the compliment - you're too kind. I just read, and now having VR myself, I can play around a bit and see what the results are.
Mostly I'm just finding that different people have different thresholds/tolerances for the performance issues that face VR now. (And players are passionate about ED as well!)
The 1070 looks to be a great card - it should have the legs to see you through a couple of years (I usually skip a generation of 3D cards - I traded up from the 780GTX to a 1080). If you want to put the $$$ somewhere else, cool! Everyone should buy what they're comfortable with/wife allows
Hello Max Factor, I am cosidering buying a rift ( for xmas) and i happen to have the same CPU as you (also overclocked at 4.4), my only concern is my GPU, i am using a radeon 7950 also overclocked, that runs graphics all maxed at over 70 fps (@1080p) with no problem, but i fear this is the weak link if i buy the rift. So i plan to buy the rift and a new GPU, my question is, what GPU are you sporting in that same CPU as mine, and how does it perform fps wise?
Regards.
Hi Lexe. I am using an AMD Fury non x at the moment. Mostly it performs fine FPS wise. No issues here. I may up my CPU to 4.4.
Regarding your GPU, I am not sure how it will perform though.
7950 is pretty low. ATW will be working overtime with that GPU, although ED will run and you may not mind the judder as it misses frames.
70fps in 2D 1080p is pretty much 40-50fps in VR as you're rendering double the frames (one for each eye). You are shown 90fps all time in the Rift/Vive, so ATW will likely be faking 1-2 frames for each real frame your 7950 comes up with. So there will likely be a lot of judder if you don't drop the settings.
I started out on the Rift with a 780GTX, which was 20-30%-ish faster than the 7950 Boost models. Although the 780GTX is below the minimum VR requirements, I only had some mild judder, and was running at moderate-high detail levels. Moving up to a 1080GTX, I still see a little judder, but am running much higher detail.
I'd estimate you'll be needing VR low-medium and to generally stay off planets and out of asteroid fields as the low frame rate might be a bit stomach churning, especially driving in the SRV. In space it will work fine though, and you may be surprised.
But, like me, you'll need a new gpu sooner rather than later.
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I would have to agree.
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If you are on a budget the AMD RX480 or the NVidia 1060 are good bets. If you want AMD it maybe worth waiting for next year when their High End GPU's will be coming out.
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I got my oculus yesterday too. And I had an almost perfectly identical experience to you. Even all your "snags" I ran into the EXACT same ones except for the Xbox controller. I was worried too when browsing this sub but all my worries are out the door now too!
What is amazing is how quickly you get used to it. I can do so much more without my stomach turning now. Need to go planet side and get used to the SRV soon.
Regarding the XBox controller, there are issues with windows 10 and I can't use mine either, but that doesn't bother me too much anyway.
What's wrong with the Xbox controller? Mine is working like a champ, both wired and wireless.
Haven't been following the thread, but I had some major facepalming getting it to work wirelessly.
Win 10 simply would not recognise the dongle and install the correct driver.
Going to the windows update page throws an error since I wasn't using exploder (yes stil) but when I succumbed and used the win 10 explorer it throws another error and refuses to download the drivers anyways.
Apparently this bit is so broken the solution was some guy sharing the needed drivers on his dropbox via reddit.
After swallowing all those red flags, I tried them, they worked apart from one "XboxStat.exe" service that was constantly chugging cpu and doing nothing when the controller was plugged in. Shutting it off works wonders, the service that is, and apparently all it is known to do is check battery status on the controller...
Oculus does this and a hell of a lot more without using that many resources.
The controller works fine without it so it's been disabled for a while now.
This was also the only issue I have had with the Oculus install, I did notice it does nag about the camera usb connection when it is in my expansion usb 3 card, but works fine on the ones on my motherboard.
It worked fine, no tracking losses etc, it just nagged.
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Hey Gortron -
Thanks for the compliment - you're too kind. I just read, and now having VR myself, I can play around a bit and see what the results are.
Mostly I'm just finding that different people have different thresholds/tolerances for the performance issues that face VR now. (And players are passionate about ED as well!)
The 1070 looks to be a great card - it should have the legs to see you through a couple of years (I usually skip a generation of 3D cards - I traded up from the 780GTX to a 1080). If you want to put the $$$ somewhere else, cool! Everyone should buy what they're comfortable with/wife allows
I thought I'd wait until my Rift came and I'd had a chance to use it a bit before responding....... WOW!! It is actually better than I imagined it would be; I was/am astonished. I also now get how reviewers tend to praise the Vive so much over the Rift (Still happy with my choice of the Rift though) because you automatically want to interact with your hands but nothing happens (and it's bloody weird). I've got an X52 so that is absolutely not an issue in ED
I totally get what you mean about different thresholds/tolerances for the performance issues that face VR now I have it myself. The setup process took a while for me but mostly because it kept restarting itself as it updated drivers and firmware etc. I don't have the colour issues or the banding or the red tint others have said about elsewhere. God rays I do have, big time, but in ED I explain them away to myself as a greasy spacesuit visor. The only thing that bothers me is the simmering edges on things, which SS helps with a lot, but as you know, kills FPS. ATW (that is impressive tech, 45 FPS looks pretty smooth) blends it all in rather nicely but then my mild air sickness at 90 fps turns into moderate sea sickness within seconds.
I'm now more confused about which card to upgrade to until the real solution (4K VR) comes out and that is probably 2+ years away even if VR takes off.
I'm definitely not disappointed with my Rift though RED! I hope PlayStation VR is good, I reckon that will be the gateway drug for most people