Caves usually have multiple openings, many not even officially known, They'd have to put gates over all of them (the ones they know anyway), and then someone would have to maintain them and it's a poor country. Odds are determined boys looking for adventure will bypass them anyway.
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Caves usually have multiple openings, many not even officially known, They'd have to put gates over all of them (the ones they know anyway), and then someone would have to maintain them and it's a poor country. Odds are determined boys looking for adventure will bypass them anyway.
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Also, people are stupid.
Even when you have signs and people telling them not to do something, they just don't wanna listen...
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Yep, I've some experience in mountain rescue. The lengths people will go to whilst endangering themselves can be truly incredible.
Even Mount Snowdon in Wales with it's railway and café/giftshop at the summit plus toilets on the way up the main track is fatal for some pretty much every year.
I'm not familiar with the exact region, but Thailand (and many places all through Asia) has many, many cave systems. It's impossible to monitor them all i expect. Why they went so deep near to Monsoon season i guess we will find out in time? They were locals so will have had some knowledge of that situation?
It could have been as simple as lets get out of the rain in that cave, and find the waters have risen behind you pushing you further and further in hoping for another exit as time goes on.
Normally no need to close the cave
It's a matter of common sense during the monsoon season
Especially concerning the children's coach ...
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Common sense isn't.
Yes, for the children we can understand but for the coach ?
...along with their 25yr old supervising adult?
I'm sure we'll get more details at some point, at the moment give the guy credit for keeping them together and alive through shared body heat until they were found.
He's also doing last man so kudos for that.
Here a video of the rescuers in the cave
[video=youtube;t-HIcYAfcl8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-HIcYAfcl8[/video]
[video=youtube;t-HIcYAfcl8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-HIcYAfcl8[/video]
Many people tend to dramatically underestimate just how "outdoors" the outdoors is, and innocent curiosity and enthusiasm can sometimes override a healthy and proper sense of one's own ignorance.
The coach may already be mired in guilt for his role in a situation that has already claimed one-- upon extraction i would hope friends/family/professionals are able to keep an eye on him for his own safety. Hopefully the boys will also have mental health interventions available to them should the need arise. Different people will react differently, but untreated PTSD in ones so young is a serious matter.
The coach may already be mired in guilt for his role in a situation that has already claimed one-- upon extraction i would hope friends/family/professionals are able to keep an eye on him for his own safety. Hopefully the boys will also have mental health interventions available to them should the need arise. Different people will react differently, but untreated PTSD in ones so young is a serious matter.
Huh? Surely he was simply told (by the professionals involved) the kids are going first in this specific order, and you're going last? ie: I doubt he had any say in the matter at all?
Having been involved in a small little incident in Australia... Yes! Very yes!
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He is also the person in the worst health as he gave all the food he had to the kids. While he made a mistake in going into the cave, he is also a hero as are all the people who are trying to save them.
I am sure he will need psycological help when he comes out, especially after finding out that a diver has died. He will surely blame himself.
The order is never a set thing.
The families have already said they don't blame him, he's probably going to suffer from really severe survivors guilt.
Only 2 more to go. Tremendous rescue effort. Can't wait to see them all out safe and sound.
As for the coach, yes he made a mistake when he took the boys into the cave, but it was an innocent mistake.
He also kept all those boys alive and well (as possible), sacrificed his own food and water, and kept the boys with hope and high spirits in those absolutely horrible conditions, trapped in a pitch dark and wet place, with no escape and rising waters, for over a week, without even knowing if they would be found at all. On top of that, he was probably the only one inside that cave who actually knew in how much actual danger they all were. He will also be completely devastated when he finds that a man who volunteered to help them is now dead.
Mistake or not, he's also a bleeding hero in my book. As much as all those divers who are bringing the boys home, and everybody else who is participating in the rescue effort.
As for the coach, yes he made a mistake when he took the boys into the cave, but it was an innocent mistake.
He also kept all those boys alive and well (as possible), sacrificed his own food and water, and kept the boys with hope and high spirits in those absolutely horrible conditions, trapped in a pitch dark and wet place, with no escape and rising waters, for over a week, without even knowing if they would be found at all. On top of that, he was probably the only one inside that cave who actually knew in how much actual danger they all were. He will also be completely devastated when he finds that a man who volunteered to help them is now dead.
Mistake or not, he's also a bleeding hero in my book. As much as all those divers who are bringing the boys home, and everybody else who is participating in the rescue effort.
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That is, outstanding news. Had severe doubts they would get any at one stage.
Been holding my breath last couple of days since the first were rescued.
A hearty o7
Awesome 
And let's remember Saman Kunan.
And let's remember Saman Kunan.