Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.

[Roybe]

? I don't follow?

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Are you sure about that? I would have thought that conflicts would dictate to the devs how they should run the story. If they have two outcomes prepared it is easy to allow it to develop organically.

Unhappy face because I want to see the Crimson State to be the owning faction in a few systems...not right now..but after we consolidate the Lugh system. Corporate/franchise expansion for the win!

I could be wrong on the last one...but it feels correct. If they wanted Onionhead and the trade eradicated, there would be no other outcome. No matter how hard the traders fought against the Federation, if the story demanded the eradication, that is what was going to happen. There will be player decided outcomes, certainly, but if the main line of the story MUST occur, then it will.

 

[orfeboy]

Unhappy face because I want to see the Crimson State to be the owning faction in a few systems...not right now..but after we consolidate the Lugh system. Corporate/franchise expansion for the win!

No, that was never the plan. The idea here was to free systems not expand them. What are we fighting this for? Do you want to become the Federation? That is such an obvious thing to do. try to think outside the box here. We have the opportunity to do something completely different here. That was the reason I started this. I am remaining true to the original idea. If others try to do this I will actively work against you, you have my promise on that. There are 400,000,000,000 systems out there if you want to do that pick one. leave Lugh out of it.

 

[Grein]

The Crimson State might just expand on its own, you know

 

[Devil Tiger]

The Crimson State might just expand on its own, you know

Probably, but maybe they just want to free the system and whatever the CSG do with that freedom is its problem. Then maybe the peoples who made it possible will move to another system and free it.
If that's the plan, i'm totally on board with that if the target is the Federation.

On the matter at hand, the lack of effect in conflict zone is consistent with my own experience of fighting in Sorbago during the slave revolt, i did a lot of fighting and mostly got negative rep for the faction i was helping. That was weird. Maybe something is inverted?
So yeah i'll happily fight for the CSG, but i don't want to paint a giant bullseye on my ship in a combat zone if it provide no benefits to anyone.

In the meantime i'll keep blowing up anacondas, maybe they'll go extinct eventually?

 

[orfeboy]

The Crimson State might just expand on its own, you know

yes and if it does I will work for the independent faction in that system. This whole effort was started to free systems not subdue them. If you want to build Empires go join the Feds or The Empire faction. That is not what this thread is about. We have been working very hard to achieve independent systems not an Empire if that is what you want you have the wrong thread.

 

[Roybe]

Probably, but maybe they just want to free the system and whatever the CSG do with that freedom is its problem. Then maybe the peoples who made it possible will move to another system and free it.
If that's the plan, i'm totally on board with that if the target is the Federation.

On the matter at hand, the lack of effect in conflict zone is consistent with my own experience of fighting in Sorbago during the slave revolt, i did a lot of fighting and mostly got negative rep for the faction i was helping. That was weird. Maybe something is inverted?
So yeah i'll happily fight for the CSG, but i don't want to paint a giant bullseye on my ship in a combat zone if it provide no benefits to anyone.

In the meantime i'll keep blowing up anacondas, maybe they'll go extinct eventually?

Yep. This is the goal. Keep freeing the systems from the Federation. Let the freed systems do what they will.

 

[sirius42]

yes and if it does I will work for the independent faction in that system.

This makes no sense. Actually we destroyed two independent factions in Lugh at the costs to free the system from federation. Not to mention the independent factions in Sesuang, LTT 4846, Belarsuk, Arth and so
forth. If CSG is going to expand by the game mechanic itself it should be (its independent). Better then let the federation takes place into the ruins we left behind in the systems we used to make this revolution possible.

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Let the freed systems do what they will.

Yes for independence.

 

[gmatagmis]

Rebell transmission for LFE alternative delivery.
Reducing federation faction influence and increasing influence of independent faction.
Stopping the boom, and provoke unrest.



PS. There only 2 systems you should care about.
Sesuang and LTT 4846.
Rest populated systems are to far away to have any plans for Lugh.
Look at galaxy map, Lugh, Sesuang and LTT 4846 are like triada, im the middle of little empty bubble of 10 Ly radius.

 

[orfeboy]

This makes no sense. Actually we destroyed two independent factions in Lugh at the costs to free the system from federation. Not to mention the independent factions in Sesuang, LTT 4846, Belarsuk, Arth and so
forth. If CSG is going to expand by the game mechanic itself it should be (its independent). Better then let the federation takes place into the ruins we left behind in the systems we used to make this revolution possible.

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Yes for independence.

I will not follow a strategy that forces expansion onto another system. Simple as that. If CSG imposes expansion onto another system I will not encourage it. That is a game mechanic beyond my control. It must be nurtured to blossom and I will not be doing that. If others do they will find I am their enemy. The way I see it the indigenous independent factions should rule their systems. Each system should have the opportunity to pursue their own destiny without interference. Anything else is a form of Empire. Whether people follow me or not I will oppose it.

This game has enough Empires. Pursuing Empire building is the obvious thing to do (yawn). I want to do something different. The game mechanics were not designed with this idea in mind. That makes me want to do it even more. We have an opportunity to make the Federation take notice. Imagine a ball of independents growing in the heart of their Empire? How long before the storyline of this game has to stand up and take notice? Do you not think that is a far better achievement than simply following basic expansion mechanics? I want to make Galnet and the Federation have to deal with us. I want Frontier have to deal with us. Come on guys, think bigger

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

This makes no sense. Actually we destroyed two independent factions in Lugh at the costs to free the system from federation. Not to mention the independent factions in Sesuang, LTT 4846, Belarsuk, Arth and so forth....

It does make sense. You will never defeat the Romans while the Judean People's Front, People's Front of Judea, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Judea, and the Judean Popular People's Front are fighting each other. You have to pick one and back them, even if that means the dissolution of the others.

 

[Darkfyre99]

This makes no sense. Actually we destroyed two independent factions in Lugh at the costs to free the system from federation. Not to mention the independent factions in Sesuang, LTT 4846, Belarsuk, Arth and so
forth. If CSG is going to expand by the game mechanic itself it should be (its independent). Better then let the federation takes place into the ruins we left behind in the systems we used to make this revolution possible.

I think it's better to think of factions as political parties, not as independent nations within the system. Influence is a measure of how many people in the system actually listen to these factions representatives, not how many people are actually part of the faction. In the case of Lugh, the local Federation governor's influence is largely supported by his control of the local military and police, plus a few diehards. Meanwhile, the people are picketing the governor's mansion, the Crimson State Group's representatives are winning local elections. Meanwhile, at the Lugh Defense Force's headquarters, the head of the organization is trying to persuade her secretary not to quit, while a handful of volunteers are mimeographing flyers to distribute at the starport.

 

[Dubh]

Listen to orfeboy - this is about this one system becoming entirely independent smack bang in the middle of federation space. When CSG take this system it'll be damned interesting to see how the simulation handles it. Lugh will be freed. That is enough. If other parties wish to do similar I just might join them in their fight for freedom but it'll be theirs and not CSGs expansion and imposed freedom. Am I right?

 

[sirius42]

I will not follow a strategy that forces expansion onto another system. Simple as that. If CSG imposes expansion onto another system I will not encourage it. That is a game mechanic beyond my control. It must be nurtured to blossom and I will not be doing that. If others do they will find I am their enemy. The way I see it the indigenous independent factions should rule their systems. Each system should have the opportunity to pursue their own destiny without interference. Anything else is a form of Empire. Whether people follow me or not I will oppose it.

This game has enough Empires. Pursuing Empire building is the obvious thing to do (yawn). I want to do something different. The game mechanics were not designed with this idea in mind. That makes me want to do it even more. We have an opportunity to make the Federation take notice. Imagine a ball of independents growing in the heart of their Empire? How long before the storyline of this game has to stand up and take notice? Do you not think that is a far better achievement than simply following basic expansion mechanics? I want to make Galnet and the Federation have to deal with us. I want Frontier have to deal with us. Come on guys, think bigger

Thinking in borders means creating them.
And i still cant get it how people come to the conclusion about other people whats going on in their minds. Flirting with expansion in a good purpose is one thing but flirting with empires on the other hand and fight federation on the way is just paradox.
From my standpoint my intention in Lugh was and is from the first day till now always to free this system out of Federation. Everything what will happen after this is the business of others and the system we feeded itself.
Let them CSGs do what they want but fighting something afterwards for what i was convinced would be ad absurdum and has nothing to do with freedom. A completely lockdown.

 

[sirius42]

Rebell transmission for LFE alternative delivery.
Reducing federation faction influence and increasing influence of independent faction.
Stopping the boom, and provoke unrest.

View attachment 9549

PS. There only 2 systems you should care about.
Sesuang and LTT 4846.
Rest populated systems are to far away to have any plans for Lugh.
Look at galaxy map, Lugh, Sesuang and LTT 4846 are like triada, im the middle of little empty bubble of 10 Ly radius.

Maybe we should try doing only something like this if we want to accelerate the federal farewell out of lugh. But we did other missions with similar summarys weeks ago. Results have changed as influence raised. Could also be that we are still in a civil war cooldown and we went the wrong way. I hope they fix the bugs soon to make it more clear.

And yes care about LTT 4846.

 

[PurgeTheXeno]

Brothers! I bring good news! An exploration windfall for the Crimson State!

Just got back from Coalsack. 4 day journey.

Total number of systems scanned: Over 120/140

Selling all systems 5k and below: 150k.

Selling all systems 10k and below: 120k.

Sellin all systems 50k and below: 500k.

Hope that helps.

 

[ollobrains]

all i have on exploraton data is when the syste is working, when a faction gets a data dump it may interact in future with events by making use of that data - colonisation perhaps etc

 

[sirius42]

Brothers! I bring good news! An exploration windfall for the Crimson State!

Just got back from Coalsack. 4 day journey.

Total number of systems scanned: Over 120/140

Selling all systems 5k and below: 150k.

Selling all systems 10k and below: 120k.

Sellin all systems 50k and below: 500k.

Hope that helps.

Thx, i hope you enjoyed your journey !

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all i have on exploraton data is when the syste is working, when a faction gets a data dump it may interact in future with events by making use of that data - colonisation perhaps etc

It would be awesome if that works in future.

 

[Myka]

Quick Q as I am interested: Does your contributions count if you are in a Private Group? I.e., do you need to be in open to play to affect this?

 

[ollobrains]

Quick Q as I am interested: Does your contributions count if you are in a Private Group? I.e., do you need to be in open to play to affect this?

open private and solo data all gets sent to the server and yorue imapct counts yes

 

[Myka]

Perfect thanks!