I agree there is a break down in logic...except that the owning faction always has to be involved because..well..game!? In other words CSG drove the boom, but the whole system, and particularly its owning faction, get to reap the rewards. Not very satisfying from CSG point of view, agreed, and illogical at one level, but makes sense when you think that we drove the whole planetary system economy to boom. As far as the individual states denying other states, I see it little more than waiting in line. We want a civil war, but the items are queued up and the queues are ordered the way they are due to cool down for the civil war. If we weren't in cooldown, the civil war probably would be the next thing in queue.
Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.
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I agree there is a break down in logic...except that the owning faction always has to be involved because..well..game!? In other words CSG drove the boom, but the whole system, and particularly its owning faction, get to reap the rewards. Not very satisfying from CSG point of view, agreed, and illogical at one level, but makes sense when you think that we drove the whole planetary system economy to boom. As far as the individual states denying other states, I see it little more than waiting in line. We want a civil war, but the items are queued up and the queues are ordered the way they are due to cool down for the civil war. If we weren't in cooldown, the civil war probably would be the next thing in queue.
Do you not think the cooldown is a bit much though? Its been over a month...
Nope..sounds like you did the right thing. CSG mission out of LFE strongholds are fine. That mission shouldn't affect lockdown...so glad to have you aboard! Check the first page for clarification...2 big issues currently, do not take the preparing for war missions/weapons import missions, and only trade out of CSG held stations and only trade into CSG stations.
The cooldown period might have been shorter. We also know the queues were bugged since, forever, and we might have only been a few days away from cool down being over, but the new state could have popped at the very end of the cooldown for Civil War, causing the next available item to be lockdown. If the cooldown is longer than 3 weeks, I agree, that feels overly long, since a system the size of Lugh would take 4 months or so to flip to one faction. More if people were working against the movement. even longer if the system pops another state. A cool down of 2 weeks or so would 'feel' better, since it would be giving better feedback to the players, and also provide a better sense of goal attainment.
The interesting thing put forth by Michael in another thread is that even if we flip the whole system to an independent faction, the system does not necessarily flip to Independent. This could be the limit of player intervention. We can play politics with the inter-system factions, but the overarching factions (Federal, Imperial) 'guide' the story line in the game.
Did a Pirate Hunt in LTT 4846... Our lockdown reduced, and Sesuang Purple Mob's lockdown increased. Urm, right. But yay!
I think the cooldown has been going on too long. I'm sure it's a tricky balance for FD as they don't want systems flipping all over the place, but as players we need to feel we're making progress and nothing in the Lugh system has physically changed since last year (yeah, I know I'm cheating). I'm afraid there's no way on Lugh that I'll be "working" for CSG for the next several months if that's what it takes to grind through this cycle. I'd probably wander off during the cooldown and then come back when there's progress to be made. I hope that this isn't the case though, I really do!
I think the cooldown has been going on too long. I'm sure it's a tricky balance for FD as they don't want systems flipping all over the place, but as players we need to feel we're making progress and nothing in the Lugh system has physically changed since last year (yeah, I know I'm cheating). I'm afraid there's no way on Lugh that I'll be "working" for CSG for the next several months if that's what it takes to grind through this cycle. I'd probably wander off during the cooldown and then come back when there's progress to be made. I hope that this isn't the case though, I really do!
And what happens when we hit 100% influence? is that even possible?
ollobrains
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Dukes of mikunn style CSG gains influence in a second system and begins to expand its empire. 9.1% at first and then the whole thing restarts
Of if micheal brookes and team pull their fingers out CSG will build a new colony, upgarde an outpost, or build a outpost in a unsttled system.
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La la la la please don't mention expansion in this thread!
It's like banging your head off a wall.
ollobrains
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You guys keep pushing and yes expansion will happen soonr or later i think 75% is the threshold for it
So what? We won't be pushing it. Seriously, this conversation is getting boring. As I have said before if that is what you want go persue your own thread.
I agree, I want to see Lugh 100% Independent... 0% anyone else.
what do we do if expansion happens without our consent? do we try and stop it? fight against csg in the neighbouring system?
This is not an expansionist project. If it happens anyone who is loyal to this thread will ignore it. This thread is about freeing systems not imposing our will upon them. Any group imposing their will upon an indigenous independent people are my enemies and I will oppose them. If any among the CSG were to suddenly forget themselves and the favor we have afforded them I will raise an army and make them remember...
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What about selling explorer data? Will that increase lockdown?
Do we even know what lockdown is?
Do we even know what lockdown is?
ollobrains
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exploration data in the DDA , if u sell exploration data to a faction they keep tht and it will lead them in future to make use of that data for events and expanions. For now though all data is is give u credits and increases youre reputation with a faction
This one sounds also very fun but realistic.
Yes on "the safe side of things" as we have enough influence now to win every civil war against every faction in our system ( 88% against 11% ?..rounded..).
Maybe we were blind and only focused on how to get much as influence as possible in a short time (by pushing a factions economic from 0% > "100% as soon as possible) and triggered an economic boom resulting in an apocalyptic downfall (lockdown) in a dimension which can only result into a completely "state of lockdown in order to contain a situation that was rapidly spiralling out of control". Just for example take the finance crisis in sol system on earth around the year 2007 (or 1929) in history. Exploding bubbles.
I think we are still in a civil war cooldown period. Maybe population does count here in the lenght of it and having no pointer at a pending state means a cooldown state. The next state in our queue is lockdown critical (with blue pointer up).
So an other suggestion...start trading with LFE stations and try to compensate the situation and even out the economic inequality ?
My thoughs about lockdown are above.
Didnt get this. But yes in therory its maybe a good thing.
Nice thx !
I think i saw a system out there some days ago containing only one faction.
Expansion wont happend with civil war and civil war cooldown i think. But yes it may happen in some months
PS: As i dont want to force this !
But otherwise it could happen during the cooldowns.
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You have a confirmation of this ?
ollobrains
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Dev comments and DDA documents - it remains unimplemented as of yet tho so a coming soon TM background sim element
Does anyone have a problem with continuing to do both trading and missions for CSG? Didn't want to repeat your 'wall of replies ' Sirius42 but my interpretation was...
' Sirius42 but my interpretation was...
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