Isn't that exactly what I pointed out you were doing earlier ?.
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Isn't that exactly what I pointed out you were doing earlier ?.
They have a restraining order.
On a Saturday night?
I don't really agree. You will find a general consensus on right/wrong and it can be quantified that way.
The trouble is forum discussion is so clouded in misunderstandings, tribalism, strawmen and dishonesty that I don't think that will work here.
I've just done it by the traditional method of not eating as much. I've made a few changes to cut out very high calorie foods but other than that I'm doing a kind of reverse version of the 5:2 where I watch what I eat and run a modest calorie deficit for weekdays but eat what the hell I like at weekends. It's been fairly effortless so far, which pleasantly surprised me. I'm fine with the rate of loss, another two stone off will do me fine and there's no compelling imperative to do it particularly quickly.
Well done though, that's going some for sure.
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In defense of anyone being confused. The thing is, seasons in terms of TV stuff is afaik an Americanism. In England at least (and I suspect UK in general) TV shows are aired in series.
As Frontier are based in Cambridge (England ) then personally I would look at the term season is the more obvious term. ESP when you look at horizons which was pitched as 4 DLCs with (approx) 1 release per season of the year albeit DLC #4 was not dated. (But 1, 2 and 3 were spring, summer and autumn at least at 1st,).
I am not bothered , delays do happen but it is dishonest to suggest that all FDs marketing didn't strongly hint at each season for ED lasting in the ballpark of 1 year.
It is what it is and so long as next era is good it will all be water under the bridge j hope.
It is. Red Anders mentioned it earlier. Sometimes it's best to agree to disagree & just let Frontier sort it out with the concerned customers.
So you are saying a personal opinion can be quantified as an absolute?
So if I say a particular box is black, even though it is red, I can be right if I get enough to agree with me? Wow, in that case your arguments in favour of LEP refunds (or whatever you are going on about) are wrong, and if enough people agree with me it will prove I am right, you are wrong
I know I've commented in this thread but although I obviously have an opinion, I don't really expect anybody with an LEP to give a crap about it. No problem with that, I worry about how I spend my money and let other people worry about how they spend theirs.
So you are saying a personal opinion can be quantified as an absolute?
So if I say a particular box is black, even though it is red, I can be right if I get enough to agree with me? Wow, in that case your arguments in favour of LEP refunds (or whatever you are going on about) are wrong, and if enough people agree with me it will prove I am right, you are wrong
If you say the black box is red that's fine, because what you see has no effect on what I see. How does that relate to the topic?
Well you've moved from "right/wrong" to "personal opinion" which aren't the same thing.
And you've just introduced the notion of "absolute".
So no I'm not saying I think personal opinion can be quantified as an absolute.
But I think the notion of right/wrong can be quantified yes, by consensus.
No I think that's a silly example.So if I say a particular box is black, even though it is red, I can be right if I get enough to agree with me? Wow, in that case your arguments in favour of LEP refunds (or whatever you are going on about) are wrong, and if enough people agree with me it will prove I am right, you are wrong
I give up, Bitstorm and Riverside you have won - congratulations. You both make statements then when challenged state you never made those statement or that you didn't mean it that way, or well lets just say I will acknowledge you two as far better trolls than I will ever hope to be.
Hope you both get exactly what you deserve from FD.
M00ka -> out of this discussion, will now await the infraction notice from the Devs as I am sure Riverside will yet again report me.
Hope you both get exactly what you deserve from FD.
M00ka -> out of this discussion, will now await the infraction notice from the Devs as I am sure Riverside will yet again report me.
Fair enough.
But on your accusation that "when challenged state you never made those statement or that you didn't mean it that way".
Here's what I said :
And here's my response to your misunderstanding of what I said.
I mean it's word for word the same, all that happened there is that you misinterpreted what I wrote and inadvertently added some bits on.
I really see no difference in :
"You will find a general consensus on right/wrong and it can be quantified that way"
and
"I think the notion of right/wrong can be quantified yes, by consensus."
I mean just grab 1000 people and ask them if it's right that we should discriminate based on race, you're gonna get mostly no and maybe some yes right?
Isn't it how the legal system works with juries? Or how local courts work in the UK with 3 judges to ensure a majority view.
Yes you would have to assume all parties are honest hence my saying your example was silly (you created an example where people lie), that was all.
But it's off topic anyway (although interesting) and probably more a philosophy thing so
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You just conpletely made that up. You have no idea what these people are thinking, even if they spell it out directly and its certainly not that.
If anything they are giving an opportunity for frontier to addess the situation, ie not silence. Youd have a point if frontier did handle teh situation and they complained, but they havent.
The LEP does appreciate in value because "the cost of all potential future updates" is and was unknown and will remain so until all updates are released, new updates only produce a minimum estimation as to what that cost will be hence the value is appreciated.
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They've told us about the roadmap disproving the future concerns. Based on peoples repeated requests for refunds from internet strangers here instead of privately to support I'd guess FDEV already rejected those, and now they are trying to apply public pressure to get the decision overturned through the "are we there yet" method. However that's not going to work as the only people listening are not sympathetic.
So FDEV already handled it.
The LEP gives lifetime access to the "free" of all the DLC of course.
all I know is that currently it doesn't encourage you to loose weight either
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