Lifetime pass discussion thread.

Would you like the lifetime pass to be open for 1 more month, at every expansion for 1 week or not a

  • At Every Expansion

    Votes: 77 42.5%
  • 1 More Month

    Votes: 21 11.6%
  • Not at all

    Votes: 83 45.9%

  • Total voters
    181
  • Poll closed .
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Javert

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Or the LEP from the KS. Unless I've missed it, I've still not seen a definite answer to that.
I have the impression that there could now be a two-tier LEP - but hopefully, I'm wrong.

After asking a few questions about this and reviewing the store, I believe that the original LEP and the current new one are functionally the same - they give you all future expansions and all future beta tests (assuming FD don't come up in future with a way to reclassify or rename what a beta test is). If you go to actually buy the LEP it makes this clear in the description. (on the FAQ page it's not so clear and is ambiguous about whether betas are included).

I think some of the confusion here is that there was also an original kickstarter option as part of the kickstarter £80 or above which included "all future expansions as a digital download". This is not the same as the LEP, as it does not include beta access to the content after season 1. It seems that Frontier made a decision that this level of kickstarter (which also included standard beta in the original game) does not include beta testing beyond year 1, whilst Premium beta does include that automatically. I'm not sure when they made this decision as it certainly wasn't clear to me until now.
 
I got my LEP when i placed enough trust in FDev to purchase the Premium Beta package for $150.00 USD.

People laughed at me when i did that, told me i was an idiot for giving that much money to a company who hadnt made a space sim in 15 years... they made comments along the lines of "A fool and his money"...

I flick my nose in their general direction now.
 
It seems that Frontier made a decision that this level of kickstarter (which also included standard beta in the original game) does not include beta testing beyond year 1, whilst Premium beta does include that automatically. I'm not sure when they made this decision as it certainly wasn't clear to me until now.
<nods> Yeah, it ain't how I understood the KS reward - but it surely looks like two different rewards now.
 
I got my LEP when i placed enough trust in FDev to purchase the Premium Beta package for $150.00 USD.

People laughed at me when i did that, told me i was an idiot for giving that much money to a company who hadnt made a space sim in 15 years... they made comments along the lines of "A fool and his money"...

I flick my nose in their general direction now.

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<pours a few more jars of Smugglinton's Weasel - a fruity ale with plenty of body and extra snark>

Edit: forgot the Sneery Nuts
 
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JUST IN <- Stressing not yelling....

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Hi Stolas,

Thanks for getting in touch. Let me break it down for you:

1. No, the Lifetime Expansion Pass does not include a second copy of Elite: Dangerous.
2. The pass goes into effect right now! You will be able to access every expansion and beta we ever release!
3. When the beta is made available, you'll be able to select it from the box next to the "PLAY" button in the launcher.
4. One account = one email address, so you'd need to make a second email address for a second account.

Let me know if you have any further questions and I'll be happy to answer them.

Regards,

CMDR Tronador
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support Wing


This just came into my inbox - I hope it answers some questions and is not a rehash of the same old info - I did not see an official word out there so I took the opportunity to post one. Please feel free to copy and post as needed.
 
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Just Bought Lifetime Expansion Pass - Beta on Current?

The Lifetime Expansion Pass also grants access to the beta of the Elite Dangerous: Horizons expansion season when it's available.

If I just bought the lifetime pass, do I get beta to the current version too? I'm guessing probably not, but I'd like to clarify. Thanks!
 
1. No, the Lifetime Expansion Pass does not include a second copy of Elite: Dangerous.
2. The pass goes into effect right now! You will be able to access every expansion and beta we ever release!

This is a bit crap IMHO.

If I were a new player and bought the lifetime pass there'd be an account there included.

I've been wanting a second account to play with for quite a while but couldn't justify paying full price for one.

The lifetime pass effectively DOES come with an account, but for all intents and purposes that's "taken away" if you already have an account. =(

Seems a bit arbitrary to me since an account clearly IS included, and it means if I want a second account - sorry pay another 40 quid on top of the lifetime pass, and on top of the price paid for the original copy. =/
 
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Currently this is the only thing holding me back from getting one. If I can get beta with the life pass for every expansion ill buy one.
 
This is a bit crap IMHO.

If I were a new player and bought the lifetime pass there'd be an account there included.

I've been wanting a second account to play with for quite a while but couldn't justify paying full price for one.

The lifetime pass effectively DOES come with an account, but that's for all intents and purposes that's "taken away" if you already have an account. =(

Seems a bit arbitrary to me since an account clearly IS included, and it means if I want a second count, sorry pay another 40 quid. On top of the lifetime pass, and on top of the price paid for the original copy. =/

Is basically what they are doing to all standard beta backers...
 
i dont think anything regarding the horizon pkgs goes into effect until horizons beta drops. at which there would no longer be any "betas" of the original game. just backports of any necessary game updates / bug fixes.
 
This is a bit crap IMHO.

If I were a new player and bought the lifetime pass there'd be an account there included.

I've been wanting a second account to play with for quite a while but couldn't justify paying full price for one.

The lifetime pass effectively DOES come with an account, but for all intents and purposes that's "taken away" if you already have an account. =(

Seems a bit arbitrary to me since an account clearly IS included, and it means if I want a second account - sorry pay another 40 quid on top of the lifetime pass, and on top of the price paid for the original copy. =/

Ok I have a question on this: What if I wanted to buy the LEP and NOT associate it with my current account? If I went in as a completely new customer, does LEP contain the full game?
 
Hullo Commanders!

Lots of you have questions that can be answered here:


https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/faq.php?cid=16

A definite must read for any commander seriously considering purchasing the current lifetime expansion pack offer... And a great clarification for those who have the different kick starter packages. The forum unfortunately hasn't been very well informed and it is difficult to answer questions individually in all the different threads.

To address a few that I can remember just catching up on the thread presently:

If you have been one of the original lucky few to already own a Lifetime Expansion Pass offered during the kick start period, you are good to go and your faith and investment has come to yield its dividend... The Horizen expansion pack is the first of many over the next ten years that you have full access to including beta privileges. You will receive the Cobra MK4 as well. Congratulations on your vision... You can already see how much we late comers are paying to receive the same benefit.

The current Lifetime Expansion Pass offer is an extension of the account you log into the store with, meaning that if you have more than one account, you will need to buy each account a LEP in order for both to receive the benefit... They do not interchange: The LEP does not give you another account/avatar... It is essentially required to already have an ED account in order to purchase the LEP.

The current LEP offer is a limited time offer... There has been no official word or speculation on how long it will last... It's part of the marketing tool to increase purchases of course. During the kick starter, they did announce a "last call" in order to drum up last minute sales, but there is no guarantee they will do such this time around.

The LEP not only gives you access to all future expansions, it entitles you to all the special digital gifts that are being offered as well... Like the Cobra MK4.

The LEP gives you beta access to each update (like wings & power play) and each expansion pack prior to being released to the general public. This entitles you to an exclusive period to figure out the new game mechanics and benefits before everyone else does including any new modifications, weapons, & ships that are introduced with it. You'll also be on the front lines of helping the developers find & figure out any bugs or loopholes that they can fix before releasing it.

The expansion packs are exactly that... They only expand the original ED universe as we have it now... It is not a separate game, mode, or universe, it just unlocks more features of the same core game in the same universe everyone utilizes in all three modes (solo, group, open). Horizons will be the planetary landings and planet side expansion... If you have no need or desire to land or roam around the surface in your on board jeep rover -- exploring, attacking, doing missions, interacting with the bases and populations you discover on the surface -- then you also won't be able to enter the planets unique atmosphere and fly around for kicks & giggles checking out the surface from above and dog fighting through canyons or dodging mountains. The initial release of Horizons will be exclusive to simple rock planets and develop into each of the more complex planets during the Horizon season which will lead up to the next expansion pack season.

Like ED core has been a development in progress, so will Horizons... This is a game that is best considered a massive 10 year project to realize the huge dream of the creators... It is too huge & too expensive to develop all at once and release for purchase as a perfect finished product, it'd be way too expensive... It will continue to require patience. The good news is that these expansion packs increase the number of virgin commanders entering the online game atmosphere in addition to continuing the future funding for this massive project which is not being served by subscription fees or utilizing real money to purchase in-game credits... You wanna progress you're gonna have to learn it & earn it like everyone else.

This is why the LEP is such a bargain if you are totally immersed into this game... You pay a single price now, save money later, have full beta access privileges just like the kick starters, and you get all the digital free stuff offered along the way... It's FD's way of saying thank you for believing in us then which gave them the capital to continue moving development forward to where they will be in the future. Heck of a bargain... I think many of us still would have purchased it if it was more expensive than it is being offered now.

Like other games with expansion packs... Some might be dependent on having one expansion pack to work while another might operate independently (like without/skipping Horizons). You will unfortunately be missing out on opportunities that that others who purchase the expansion pack if you decide to just continue with the ED core game... It's my guess that once you see & hear all the feedback after Horizons is released that you will go ahead and pay for the expansion pack. It hasn't been said for sure, but don't be surprised if the expansion pack is slightly more expensive than the pre-order price being offered.

For sure, the Cobra MK4 will be exclusive to only those who pre-order Horizons (or have the LEP).

For clarification... If you just buy the horizon pre-order without already having the ED core... You will get a separate account/avatar, but you will not be able to play ED core until Horizons is released this December.

The Frontier Store does accept PayPal as a form of payment... During the ordering process it will direct you to PayPal to sign in there after which PayPal will ask you what form of funding do you desire to pay this with and will be based on the information you already have enrolled/on file with PayPal (cash, eft, debit card, credit card, PayPal credit w/6month interest free financing).

Just like ED core, Horizons will not be immediately available through Steam, meaning that you have to purchase it and download it from the Frontier store. Once it is made available via Steam, you can request a Steam CD Key so that it can be added to your library. The expansion pack works via your log in... So you will still be able to start & play the game with Horizons via Steam.

Currently, Horizons is only offered on PC! It has not been announced for Mac or XB1, but like the ED core, they will extend it first after full PC release to Mac, then most likely XB1 (unless Microsoft utilizes their purchase power to get ahead in the que). If you play a Horizons account on both PC & Mac platforms, they have said that you can continue playing the avatar on a Mac but it would just be the ED core version... as if you didn't have the expansion pack.

Hope this helps to clarify... I will continue to follow this thread.
 
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Ok I have a question on this: What if I wanted to buy the LEP and NOT associate it with my current account? If I went in as a completely new customer, does LEP contain the full game?

Well that's the thing.

I believe if a new customer bought the LEP it would come with an account along with it. Which is a bit crap since it's "taken away" for those of us who wanted a second account and paid the £120.
 
Well that's the thing.

I believe if a new customer bought the LEP it would come with an account along with it. Which is a bit crap since it's "taken away" for those of us who wanted a second account and paid the £120.

I think FD made a bot boo-boo here:

1) I think the LEP should have come with a 2nd account;
2) I think ED:H should have come with a 2nd account for existing users.

I think (2) would have reduced a hell of a lot of noise about it's cost/value from current players.
 
i hope it's available until the 15th at least, after the exchange rate, i can't afford it until payday
 
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The lifetime pass means I'll be able to switch my account to Steam while still ensuring that FDev got all my monies!
Steam will get a cut of my future paintjob purchases, but my spending on the game so far + paintjobs so far + lifetime pass = the lion's share going directly to FDev.

Now they just need to not spend it all at once because they need to shepherd the company through ten years of increasingly lean times, without gambling on there continuing to be significant ongoing income from a stream of new buyers that doesn't ever dry up. Five years from now, income will be down and costs still high, and another 5 years still left on the road map...

It's a pretty tall order and I have doubts they'll be able to manage it, so I might not get my money's worth, but I've done my part. I've done what I can. :)
 
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