Locked systems / Shinrarta Dezhra/ Fleet Carrier Access

[CMDR D Noize]

Not anymore... haven't decided on my next home system.. but my carrier gives me a lot of new options for a nice base..
(rather than SD... as most people only based themselves there due to access to all 38 ships, and all of the modules)

I also just live on my carrier these days and when I'm in the bubble I usually park it in UV CETI.
It's a lonely star, directly below Sol (where I get a substantial portion of my bounty work) and there's usually no one else there so I can get in & out of the system/my FC without any connection issues.

The trick is finding easily accessible systems with no one else in them.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Orange sidewinders all round.

 

[MishaTX]

If Shin ever becomes open to Space Herpes, then I'll have to find another home, because the last thing I need is another Orange Sidewinder system located where I need to go.

 

[Bottom Hat]

If Shin ever becomes open to Space Herpes, then I'll have to find another home, because the last thing I need is another Orange Sidewinder system located where I need to go.

Great way to think of carriers lol!

 

[VirtueXOI]

In game it could be seens as : theses system dont like to many unknown people to jump in (aka your REAL carrier crew) . And the fact that they restric the system is to control small ships better , by having their OWN megashipt / carrier for example. (And to have control over traffic in general) .
You could also think about something like : they FSD lock some ship , but to do this have to lock most of old FSD (likecarriers ones). Dunno , make your own story about it.

Not ingame :FD maybe dont want theses system to be laggy .
They may introduce alot of bug because of the people on the carrier that dont have permit . Could end up like the starting zone bug where people with no permit in the permit system itself cant jump out at all , being locked .

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Good thing that atleast some systems are clean of carrier infestation.

Well some of us do try to be community minded and keep our carriers in uninhabited systems unless we're using them for something.

 

[TiberiusDuval]

Well some of us do try to be community minded and keep our carriers in uninhabited systems unless we're using them for something.

Well thats fine attitude

 

[Tyvolus]

So passengers on your fleet carrier when it jumps can't accidentally get into systems that they do not have a permit for

so the game doesnt check the passengers onboard against the permits they do or dont have, and then adjust if that particular carrier can go there or not ?

 

[Ydiss]

so the game doesnt check the passengers onboard against the permits they do or dont have, and then adjust if that particular carrier can go there or not ?

No.

In my opinion, the method they opted for is way, way more elegant a solution that has the secondary upshot of stopping these systems being full of FCs.

 

[Retropolitan]

... a hell of a lot of people base themselves out of SD.

Becuse who doesn't dream of living in a car dealership surrounded by street gangs and serial killers?

 

[Eraden]

What was done with Shinrarta should have been done with all systems containing important game assets. Most notably engineers. There should be no FCs allowed in any system in which there is an engineer. FCs only serve to make the engineering experience worse by clogging up system maps (although it is possible to tune them out) and result in those silly game crashes for people trying to take off from facilities.

 

[Nomen Luni]

Good thing that atleast some systems are clean of carrier infestation.

100% agree. Seeing so many FCs cluttering up the system map is a huge eyesore and major source of annoyance for me.

 

[varonica]

so the game doesnt check the passengers onboard against the permits they do or dont have, and then adjust if that particular carrier can go there or not ?

So how do they check for passengers not on board but who docked there and logged off? What about players who last docked at the FC and get destroyed and don't have a permit, they're just randomly flung to some unknown system.

 

[Oldviboy]

Does anyone have any idea of the logic behind not permitting fleet carriers in permit access only systems like ShinrartaDezhra? Baffled.

Why do you want to install a carrier in Shinrarta? It is the most absurd use that can be given to an FC, having Jameson M. what is the logic behind that?

I thank frontier for not allowing it, one of the few things that I am glad they did about FC's.

 

[Ydiss]

What was done with Shinrarta should have been done with all systems containing important game assets. Most notably engineers. There should be no FCs allowed in any system in which there is an engineer. FCs only serve to make the engineering experience worse by clogging up system maps (although it is possible to tune them out) and result in those silly game crashes for people trying to take off from facilities.

I'm up for it, to a degree but disagree with the reason (disconnects). That needs to be fixed in isolation, irrespective of where it is. And it mostly has? I've not had any issues since the last patch but maybe I'm just lucky.

I'd be OK with engineer systems being no fly zones for FCs but it doesn't bother me that they're there. The system map should slot them into collapsed brackets (again, irrelevant where, just something that should have been sorted).

Permit systems make sense. Just not sure engineers needs it. After all, it's quite a benefit to owning a FC to be able to park it up in an engineer system to engineer more than one ship quickly. I don't think that should be taken away just for the reasons stated, when those reasons can be fixed (and should be fixed) without just going "nah, block Fcs".