Hardware & Technical Logitech Acquires Saitek

I see two simultaneous outcomes of this.

1) Logitech/Saitek gear becoming more expensive

2) Products becoming more reliable.

I think I can live with the first one, if the second one is significant. I went through four Saitek joysticks in two years...

and the third likely outcome is that there will be fewer choices, logitech will likely streamline the product offerings that were formerly available.
 
I don't see how the reduction of competitors benefits us, we just end up with less choice. Isn't this just one less competitor for Logitech to worry about? I'd rather Saitek stayed as a separate company.

Well, here's hoping Logitech keeps the Saitek brand but frankly, so long as Logitech builds quality products as they have repeatedly demonstrated their ability to do, I do not care whether the Saitek brand name dries up and blows away or not. Just make the "X-57" the best darned HOTAS ever.
 
Considering the crappy quality of Logitech's mice (the short livetime of their buttons especially) I don't see how that will rise the quality of Saitek products.

Not sure where you are coming from friend. My MX revolution i bought 7 years ago and would still be using it if it weren't for the battery no longer charging. granted their low end mice in the under 30 dollar range are nothing spectacular but still fairly reliable.


Lets all renumber that logitech excels at the mid grade market.
Although I am not encouraged by my E3d pro, its showing wear after 10 months
 
Yeh same here for me x52 & x52pro pre madcatz still working fine after thousands of hours use.

Same here, X45 17 years old this year, been through IL-2 1946, Tachyon:The Fringe, Falcon4, F-22 Lightning 3 and Elite for the last 2 years at a rate of 2-5 hours a day and still going strong. Looks a bit worn and smooth in places, creaks a little, but still working just fine.
 
Same here, X45 17 years old this year, been through IL-2 1946, Tachyon:The Fringe, Falcon4, F-22 Lightning 3 and Elite for the last 2 years at a rate of 2-5 hours a day and still going strong. Looks a bit worn and smooth in places, creaks a little, but still working just fine.

Have some rep for mentioning Tachyon. That was a kind of funny and fun oddity of a game. I really liked it for what it was though.
 
It looks like, with some significant delay, there finally comes some movement into the HOTAS market. The X56 has shown some improvement (the analogue sticks), same with the new Thrustmaster Hotas.

Now if Logitech could take the x56, improve quality, ergonomics, software, and add a good trackball to the throttle i'd gladly pay Warthog money for it!
 
A trackball, like those mice? Why would you want that for throttle? Seems like your regular directly proportional throttle would be best.
 
I don't see how the reduction of competitors benefits us, we just end up with less choice. Isn't this just one less competitor for Logitech to worry about? I'd rather Saitek stayed as a separate company.
There's that.

There is also Logitech's previous attempt at the "serious sim" market that went out of production almost before one could actually buy it. But apart from seeing an entire line of products just vanish from the market that way (which in Saitek's current situation would only make me 50% sad, because the other 50% would be totally deserved), it hardly removes a competitor from the market. One interesting question though is if they're going to keep the brand alive, or if they just give it a go under their "G" brand and just bury it for good if it doesn't float.
 
I don't see how the reduction of competitors benefits us, we just end up with less choice. Isn't this just one less competitor for Logitech to worry about? I'd rather Saitek stayed as a separate company.
Were they even competing that hard? This market seems like an afterthought for most companies...rather than old IP shifting around, I'd rather see a new entrant into the field.
 
This market seems like an afterthought for most companies...
That's because it is. It's not a huge volume market like, say, mouses, keyboards or gamepads. Getting into such a market is risky, and you have to see where you get your earnings. A few examples:
  • Thrustmaster have been in the market forever, and they have a bunch of cheap products based on proven technology that doesn't change much, and any "evolution" is done more or less on the side. They also have the Warthog which is a premium product, and they can and do charge a premium price for it. If the Warthog had failed, it would have killed a smaller company.
  • CH Products have also been in the market for a long time, with relatively high price tags on their products. They (or rather a part of the company that was relatively recently split off) make the switches, pots, and also the mini sticks that are inside all the major gamepads. Their hardware looks bland on the outside, industrial on the inside, and didn't change much over decades.
  • Saitek thrived on something in-between: medium-priced products with medium quality. Under Madcatz, they tried to increase margins and "innovate" at the same time, and the result is clearly visible.
  • Nutcases like the guy who makes the Slaw Device. Because they can. You pay for the privilege, and a "normal" consumer products company would kick a product designer in the head for even thinking of such a thing on company time.
 
Considering the crappy quality of Logitech's mice (the short livetime of their buttons especially) I don't see how that will rise the quality of Saitek products.


That is not my experience. Two 2008 Logitech G5 Gaming mice in the house, still no issues with intensive use. A handful of wireless mice around the house and in laptop bags, no issues.
 
I wish Logitech made higher end products as well, but for what they are, they're quite good and have gotten better, at least in my experience.

Logitech have always had a high end segment. Have a look at the G-Series line.

For a long time the Logitech G700 was regarded as one of the best mice on the market. And the new G900 is well up there with the top mice.

The G15 for a long time was considered to be THE "gaming" keyboard before they became all the rage. And their newer G810, G910 are just as good as the Corsair, Razer, etc, equivalents.

I recently got a G502 and it is the best mouse I've ever used. Far better then the Corsair M65 that it replaced. Their other G-Series products seem to be well regarded too.

Logitech might not have a history of making many "niche" products like HOTAS setups, but their quality has always been rock solid.

I've also read that the reason behind the buy out was to put Logitech in a good position to market peripherals designed for VR applications.
 
Decent enough, though I guess I was referring more to the other peripheral devices like game controllers, joysticks and HOTAS setups, wireless headsets, and similar.

I actually prefer their older discontinued wireless game controller which had much better range (nearly three times as much) and square analog stick holes for full multi-axes control. Too bad mine stopped working. Either way, I'd much rather buy an "Elite" gamepad from Logitech rather than Microsoft, even if just because I like having the analog sticks in the middle. But yeah, having full multi-axes control on a modern game controller would be nice too.

Side note: I'm much more interested in general quality, functionality, and ease of use, not bling such as angular design, RGB lighting, and similar.
 
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So, my personal downside:

I send my defective x55 to MadCatz (twist axis jitter) almost three weeks ago. Last week i contacted the support (with the hash of the open ticket in the subject section of the email) asking for the status of my warranty claim. Got an automated response that they aren't supporting Saitek devices anymore, please use this link to some useless logitech faq under construction. Wrote another mail, no response so far. Hope this gets resolved quickly. I need a stick for 2.2!
 
So, my personal downside:

I send my defective x55 to MadCatz (twist axis jitter) almost three weeks ago. Last week i contacted the support (with the hash of the open ticket in the subject section of the email) asking for the status of my warranty claim. Got an automated response that they aren't supporting Saitek devices anymore, please use this link to some useless logitech faq under construction. Wrote another mail, no response so far. Hope this gets resolved quickly. I need a stick for 2.2!

Ouch... and good luck with that. On the other hand, maybe it's a mixed blessing and an upgrade is in order? ;)
 
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