Logitech X56 fan seeks stronger built equivalent

FWIW, I've thought about politics and countries of origin. If being ethical was a criteria I'd be hard pressed to buy anything at all. I decided on Virpil as I don't really hold a private company responsible for a country's policy and politics. I ordered a throttle, a T50-CM3 base and a constellation alpha prime grip on the 3rd of October and took delivery on the 27th. I don't have all that many hours with it in game yet, but the build quality is very impressive. I was relatively happy with my Logitech X52 pro, but it appears as a toy in comparison.. But of course that is to be expected considering the price difference..!

I've also gone for one of the Cosmosim cams, but am still planning to try others and also different springs until I find my personal favourite combination.
 
I agree with the OP. I have an X56 and it broke quickly on the twist function. Customer service was very poor, and I would probably never buy this stick again.
 
The X-56 is a great stick if you don't mind taking things apart and fixing them every few months. :D Mine has lasted over four years now, but I had to 3D print a replacement part for the case when it cracked (admittedly I was being a little hard on it at the time). The replacement has turned out a lot stronger than the original.

While I haven't had any button issues with the X-56 (at least, none that haven't been solved with powered USB), I did have to replace some of those in my previous X52. The buttons used in most cases were the cheapest available, so no wonder they don't last (they cost around 2p each to replace I think).
 
I've replaced the trigger button on my 16000t a few years ago. Again a few pence from Farnell to fix, just a bit fiddly.

I don't think there is a perfect answer
 
What on earth are you people doing to the poor X56?! 5 years mines been going for. All still works. Just creaks a little.
 
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Wow nice rig!

This is mine hehe.
Now waiting on the sticks arrival. I opted for the alpha prime. Twist action but now its metal!
And those cosmosims...wow. warbird base.
Can't wait!
 

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Sorry to hijack this thread a little: I have had a Logitech X56 since about October 2022 and I absolutely love it, function-wise. Sadly, the twist spring just broke the other day, so I got onto Logitech Support and they were very helpful and quick to send out a replacement. However, I am not 100% sure how this is meant to fit into the receiving mechanism. Taking everything apart was simple but, given that the spring "feet" had broken, it is impossible to see exactly how the spring is meant to be tensioned.

I asked Logitech Support for some instructions or a diagram, but they had nothing available. There are some relevant posts on Reddit in r/hotas, but those are unavailable at the moment, due to the ongoing protest.

Does anyone have some relevant advice / pictures / diagrams that they could share with me, so that I can reassemble my HOTAS and head back into the black?

Regards,

CMDR Judge Chuck
 
Seeing as this has been necro'd, it should be mentioned that the VKB Gladiator NXT now has a line of sticks designed for space games that has:

4 hats (one is analogue and can be toggled to digital as well) per stick (3 if you buy the non-premium version but the price difference is so small I would just get it), all with a central button press switch, dual stage triggers (pull lightly, pull fully), three additional buttons on the stick itself, several others on the base, including a throttle, encoding switch and dial switch and it's priced at a very decent low end for premium sticks. It isn't fully metal but they support right to repair and so if anything does break then you can replace that specific part (and you get some spares to start with).

I bought two. The other is left-handed with an omni-throttle extension that switches the stick into a throttle but it still has all three axies (including twist). It has all the same hats (so I have 8 hats in total) and buttons/triggers. This gives me every single axis of rotation and thrust on an analogue axis (something I wouldn't have had even if I bought those clunky looking throttles most stick vendors sell with these, as I don't think they offer more than X and Y on analogue, at least not on the main stick itself). Total cost was around 350-400 euros (maybe a bit more when you include UK import tax). The single stick would cost less than half of that (the omni-throttle version costs slightly more).

I've never used HOTAS. This is my first try and I've used mouse since the game came out and after just one afternoon/evening I'm already loving it. The reviews all praise the build quality and I have the sense of security that if a switch or spring breaks then I can order the replacement and fix it myself (lots of guides on how to do that on their YT channel). You do need some assembly when you get it but that's mainly useful as it gets you gently introduced into the working parts. I enjoyed it (and it was simple, all the parts you need provided and I just followed the YT video for it... I've had Ikea builds that were harder).

I never considered HOTAS until I saw the review for this stick. The whole "yeh mine broke and I had to buy a new one" stories always put me off and it seemed to me that the only way to get all the bells and whistles you'd need for Elite was to invest huge sums of cash. This is a decent price, extremely good value too. And it feels so premium, so smooth (without needing to really do any manual calibration at all, I just set up the keys I needed and got on with it).

I'll mention the software is very complicated (it's clearly designed by techies for techies) but one YT video was all it took for me to understand how to remap keys. I honestly doubt I'll use all of the advanced features anyway. But I do have the knowledge they're there if I do want to use them.

Anyway, my plug is done. If you want to see a decent review of it, I'd recommend watching BuurPit's excellent review:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HunV0FRM0LI&ab_channel=TheBuurPit


That's why I found out about it and I used Buur's code to get 5% off my order, too.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread a little: I have had a Logitech X56 since about October 2022 and I absolutely love it, function-wise. Sadly, the twist spring just broke the other day, so I got onto Logitech Support and they were very helpful and quick to send out a replacement. However, I am not 100% sure how this is meant to fit into the receiving mechanism. Taking everything apart was simple but, given that the spring "feet" had broken, it is impossible to see exactly how the spring is meant to be tensioned.

I asked Logitech Support for some instructions or a diagram, but they had nothing available. There are some relevant posts on Reddit in r/hotas, but those are unavailable at the moment, due to the ongoing protest.

Does anyone have some relevant advice / pictures / diagrams that they could share with me, so that I can reassemble my HOTAS and head back into the black?

Regards,

CMDR Judge Chuck
As it happens, I needed to repair my x55 today, so here you go. I added a crude vertical diagram, too. Hope that helps!
 

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Hmm ... Their operations are out of Vilnius in Lithuania though. US operations from Florida.

Technically right. Quite normal for business to have sites in different countries. Does not really change the location of the main company and where the money goes to.

Also, all in all, i feel sorry for the owners of the company, or about anybody who's currently in in places like Russia, Belarus or the likes and their lives, incomes and/or business suffers from current events. I very much believe that a bunch of flight sim nerds who started their own HOTAS production are not to be blamed for anything of the current mess. It would be so great if things change again and everything is in better shape again.

Till then, things are what they are. While the owner of Vipril are sure not to be blamed for what their dictator (he calls himself to be that) says and does, their location, the cash flow and the resulting tax unfortunately goes to a government which i personally will completely avoid supporting. I really long back to the time when buying a HOTAS did not have a political aspect attached to it... :(
 
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