CQC Long road...but worth it...is CQC worth doing?

I'm sorry you are a poor pilot. I'd cry you a river, but I've got seals to club.

oh yeah, I nearly forgot.

Number 4. ... ... ... ... read everything above.

Kossack, I hope you get into a match with this guy and teach him some humility. Sounds like he could use it!
 
Kossack, I hope you get into a match with this guy and teach him some humility. Sounds like he could use it!


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Kossack, I hope you get into a match with this guy and teach him some humility. Sounds like he could use it!
Let me fix that English for you, because it's so hard:
""Dear Kossack, I hope you got into a match with Brimstone, because I personally do not like the way he talks or responds back to me. I feel that you should teach him some humility, as if he doesn't experience it already by fighting against the people already playing CQC, rather than me playing CQC as well. Yeah, I totally could play CQC and make an example of this guy, but im too busy making myself look like a total ANUS by sitting here and judging, because judging is so much easier than actually playing the game! LOL I know right! So easy. I can say anything I want and noone will ever question me.

Oh, I'm sorry, did you actually play CQC rather than sit and speculate?
 
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Numbers 1 and 2 can be very subjective. Sometimes I drop into a match immediately, and other times I have to wait upwards of 5 minutes(or more) to get a full roster for a match. This is subjective.

Number 3. No reason to play, because the most you can earn from a match is 150000 credits? And here I see tons of threads, people complaining about the fact that CQC has any benefit to the main game. Here you are, complaining that the benefit isn't enough. Well, good on you. But you're wrong, in my opinion.

The benefit of CQC is the instant PVP.

You are put in a situation with someone else where you really need to rely on your actual piloting skills instead of stacking shield cell banks and other countermeasures to pad your actual ability.

If you're mad that you got owned in CQC, then I am not sorry. You can't zone out in CQC like you do while you fight NPCs in the main game. You actually have to think for once. And there are pleanty of oppertunities to buff your ship, with clever use of the powerups around the arena.

I'm sorry you are a poor pilot. I'd cry you a river, but I've got seals to club.

oh yeah, I nearly forgot.

Number 4. ... ... ... ... read everything above.

Number 1: There are objectively only perhaps 50 players on the entire planet who plays CQC. The rest - noobs who play at most couple hours and give up.
Number 2 = I almost always have to play with noobs. I know what I am talking about.
Number 3 - there is no reason to play in context of Elite Dangerous. As a stand-alone game - maybe (after matchmaking is fixed). And if I wanted this kind of PvP I would bring my FDL to Eravate and start clobbering noobs. But it is no fun for anyone, right?

You obviously have not played CQC much. Give it a few hours - you'll see for yourself... ;)
 
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Number 1: There are objectively only perhaps 50 players on the entire planet who plays CQC. The rest - noobs who play at most couple hours and give up.
Number 2 = I almost always have to play with noobs. I know what I am talking about.
Number 3 - there is no reason to play in context of Elite Dangerous. As a stand-alone game - maybe (after matchmaking is fixed). And if I wanted this kind of PvP I would bring my FDL to Eravate and start clobbering noobs. But it is no fun for anyone, right?

You obviously have not played CQC much. Give it a few hours - you'll see for yourself... ;)
Yes, I'll see for myself. like, I'll fail like a miserable little child, and win in the next instance 5 times in a row, cuz you just couldnt be bothered to look above you when you wrote your silly little post.
 
Number 1: There are objectively only perhaps 50 players on the entire planet who plays CQC. The rest - noobs who play at most couple hours and give up.
Number 2 = I almost always have to play with noobs. I know what I am talking about.
Number 3 - there is no reason to play in context of Elite Dangerous. As a stand-alone game - maybe (after matchmaking is fixed). And if I wanted this kind of PvP I would bring my FDL to Eravate and start clobbering noobs. But it is no fun for anyone, right?

You obviously have not played CQC much. Give it a few hours - you'll see for yourself... ;)
So you happily and readily equate killing new players in their sidewinders while you sit in your battle Fer De Lance, to people joining CQC, a specificly PVP oriented affair, where most of the players use the first ship available to them?

Yes, you sound like a totally cool guy.
 
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But indeed, too many people feel there is no reason to play CQC.

Whether this comes down to the fact that these people prefer to play the environment, or other players is irrelevant.

the vast majority of players have an oppertunity to put their skills against another player, and they don't take advantage of it.(despite the fact that It has absolutely no negative effect to their primary carrer in the primary game.) Actually, when I encounter new players, they seem to expect us other players to react and make actions that an NPC would make! That is absolutely rediculous!

To me, that is sad. It's sad, personally, because I feel these people might learn something that they otherwise wouldn't learn, because they spend most of their time engaging with NPCs.

I'm not saying that these people are more poor pilots than the kind that would engage with PVP, in general, but I am in fact saying that when it comes to CQC... Because when you play CQC, you find Enemies doing naughty things that NPCs would never do. CQC in a way, gets you ready for "the real world" as silly as that might sound, when we all play in a fantasy world.

So I truely am sincere when I say to all, "please, play CQC at least a few times."
You will learn things by observing the way other players behave, that you wouldn't learn from AI NPCs.
These things you learn will most likely be usable in your primary career in Elite Dangerous.
But you wouldn't know unless you try! Because unless you absolutely denounce CQC, you wouldn't have any means of knowning at all, with no reprocussion at all..

There are multiple scenarios that you can play in CQC, but unfortunately, the most popular are the 'free for all death match' and the 'team death match' scenarios, while the 'capture the flag' scenario sounds very cool, and I'd love to play it, no one(seems) actually queues for that scenario.
 
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Oh, you wanna fight?

Let's all meet this Sunday. Noonish. Acapulco International airport. Near Airmexico baggage claim. Only knives, no guns, OK?

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So you happily and readily equate killing new players in their sidewinders while you sit in your battle Fer De Lance, to people joining CQC, a specificly PVP oriented affair, where most of the players use the first ship available to them?

Yes, you sound like a totally cool guy.

Yep. Pretty much equal. And that is why a bunch of experienced players inventing all kinds of handicaps for themselves. Using plasma repeaters, cannons, not using targeting or power-ups, etc. Without handicaps it feels pretty much like using FDL to hunt newbies in sidewinders in the main game.
 
Let's all meet this Sunday. Noonish. Acapulco International airport. Near Airmexico baggage claim. Only knives, no guns, OK?

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Yep. Pretty much equal. And that is why a bunch of experienced players inventing all kinds of handicaps for themselves. Using plasma repeaters, cannons, not using targeting or power-ups, etc. Without handicaps it feels pretty much like using FDL to hunt newbies in sidewinders in the main game.

No, that has no bearing as to why certain players may feel the need to play with self-imposed handycaps. This is absolutely silly.



This sunday for CQC? fine, let's go, with all of the unnecessary and references to a Central American terminal.
 
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^^ This is one of the reasons I steer clear of CQC. There's a bunch of other games out there that provide PvP where I get to see the tricky stuff real players do. It's very rare that pitting Players against each other doesn't devolve into epeen waving and the usual ego nonsense that goes with it. There isn't much in CQC that I didn't see in Star Conflict, with a slightly slower pace and worse graphics.

I have also waited upwards of 15 minutes on occasion without a match. The fact that this might happen at all, is enough to make me not bother trying. I have a family. My play time is limited. I can't be bothered wasting it in a match making queue.

When I do play, it's when the little one is in bed. If she wakes or goes wandering (she sleep walks), I need to be able to drop the game and go, which would be unfair to my team mates (the free for all one is just nonsense, imo).

The guys on Educating Ed this week seem like a much better option to learn PvP. You'll need a loadout that will work in the game. And they specify that it's salt-free. If I can get on at that time, I'll definitely be checking it out.
 
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^^ It's very rare that pitting Players against each other doesn't devolve into epeen waving and the usual ego nonsense that goes with it.

Honestly? This thread is pretty much the first I've seen of that sort of nonsense. 99% of CQC players are quite civil (many of the best ones even humble) out of the game. Inside the game, there's no chat so they don't have a choice to be otherwise.
 
^^ This is one of the reasons I steer clear of CQC. There's a bunch of other games out there that provide PvP where I get to see the tricky stuff real players do. It's very rare that pitting Players against each other doesn't devolve into epeen waving and the usual ego nonsense that goes with it.
I can't agree with you on this... While indeed some egos are flaring up, all disagreements have been handled in a civil manner here. Perhaps due to higher age (on average) of the Elite Dangerous players compared to the "usual PvP" games..
I do not think this should be a reason to avoid CQC..
Also in "Death match" there are no comms - you can pretend that it is just PvE aginst occasionally very good AI ;)

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Sometimes I wonder if some of the ships in DM are in fact AI..
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I would play CQC all the time if my thumb didn't get sore from all the hat working to manage my power. As it is I can play maybe an hour a time a few days a week to keep it from wearing out. I love it though.
 
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