Lordy, hunting for HGEs is DULL!

HGE are in no way supplemental, since you can for the most part pick exactly the material you want by having the correct faction states, and at best not conflicting ones that can drop both materials of the conflicting states. If something is supplemental, it's the other methods, which are completely RNG.


You need between 7-11 G5 rolls to max out a module. Let's take 9 as the average. You need 6 G4 materials for one G5 if they are in the same category, or 36 G4 materials for one crosstraded G5. That same conversion rate applies between the lower grades. G4 mats barely drop enough of themselves at Davs Hope, and you want to trade up ? Not practical at all and the worst grind imaginable.


That's how I roll, got a problem with that ?


Pure self-defense against a currently way too punishing mechanic.


My thoughts exactly. Worse yet, population doesn't seem to have an effect on HGE spawn rate any more. I was looking for CDC yesterday. So checking out fed factions in state none. No HGE anywhere in sight in both a 15 and a 8 billion population. A cozy 2 billion system then had two....at a distance that required 5 minutes cruising even on full throttle and untargeting to avoid the overshoot, so the fastest way possible. They had 8 minutes on their clock left. So getting both was out of the question, and from the one I could reach I got barely three relogs before it expired.

The last 2-3 rolls to max out get you virtually no performance gain. You can decide that the method of getting mats that is fun is supplemental to one that is tedious and boring. You can roll anyway you want, noone cares.

But if you yourself make all those choices, do stop complaining those choices arent fun. The last percentage on a thruster or fsd gets you a whopping 0m/s, 0 degree piych and 0ly boost. If you insist on grinding for that, take some responsibility for those choices.

Oh, and defending exploiting and cheating as 'pure self defense'? Whatever man, lol.
 
You can find chemical manipulators in encoded signal sources which you can trade up to pharmaceutical isolators. Probably a faster way to get them than hunting for HGEs, if you insist on paying the OCD tax.
 
Lately I've been hanging around Eravate. Steady stream of HGEs, always CDC's and their g4 (name... Im drawing a blank atm) Usually 2 or 3 and after that I just hit Encoded emissions if I feel the need. Nav beacon is a faster method than FSS scans. There always seems to be plenty of EE, I bring collector limpets for these. Just sayin, Encoded seems to be overlooked, theres heaps of them in some systems. Get a fair bit of g3/g4 in the PI line of mats. But from what Ive read its the new system of multiple faction states in a system thats the real issue tryin to search out certain materials in HGEs. While a system might be in outbreak, the minor faction states now have a role in the roll for what actually appears in a HGE if I understand correctly. Material traders seem to be the best bet for getting the 'rare' materials in a timely fashion now.
 
I’ve been getting PIs from melting Anacondas in Pirate Activity Threat 7s. Not always, and you do have to work for them a bit, but they do happen :)
 
I just randomly found out I can reliably get Configurable Components from T9s(and other things) at an anarchy nav beacon.
Spent less than an hour on there, got 41 CCs, and maxed out most of my G1/2, and have loads of G3/4s more than half full.
Even got some chemical manipulators doing that.
 
Sooo - anyone tested in 3.4? They said it was better now. Gonna hop on soon, might have a look.
I had a quick look around - HGE rate may be slightly better, but the contents still are very boring - I got mostly Imperial Shielding - though a larger sample would be good.

SC-assist is making getting there a lot better though, just engage and then you are free to watch the forums for a few minutes without a loop of shame :)
 
After hours of searching I finally found one HGE with pharmaceutical isolators in an indy system. I tried again later in the same system with the same faction's outbreak HGE and got some proto heats. Guess I'll call having nine pharmaceutical isolators a win.
 
Sooo - anyone tested in 3.4? They said it was better now. Gonna hop on soon, might have a look.
I hit maybe 25-30 systems running around engineering stuff and hit every nav beacon in my travels, and I did get an HGE in most (sorry, didn't count, maybe 3/4) systems, but it didn't really seem more than normal. Not enough time yet to really make a determination, I'd say.

I did notice an absolute abundance of degraded and encoded, maybe even more encoded than degraded.
 
Sooo - anyone tested in 3.4? They said it was better now. Gonna hop on soon, might have a look.
I played only one hour today and one hour yesterday, and since I am deep into Fed territory I always find the same things. But HGEs are clearly improved, today I found 6, in two different systems. Since I visited a Empire system, I found 3 pieces of Imperial Shielding (9 items) and the typical Fed stuff (Core Dynamics Composites, ...) elsewhere.
But HGE are better than before, there seems to be a chance of spawning new HGEs in a system after finding and looting one.
A remark: For me at least scanning the Nav Beacon is not the most efficient way to find USS and specifically HGE. I always use the FSS for this, it is much faster.
 

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Didn't get to go looking for HGEs last night because I was mining. I was hoping to hear the update fixed the issue, since I think I saw something in the patch notes about it. Reading these posts, it doesn't sound like it worked out.

To be clear, I have no problems getting stuff like Core Dynamics Composites or Proto Heat Radiators. The two I just can't find anymore post 3.3 are Pharmaceutical isolators and Improvised Components.
 
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I have good news, and I have bad news. Yes, I have just gotten 9 pharma isos out of an outbreak system. That is the good news. Relog-quitting no longer works. That is the bad news.
 
Not wanting to seem facetious, but you do know how to use the FSS, right? I only ask because it's so easy with this tool. I went HGE hunting a couple of days ago and found around one in every three systems, plus a load of Encoded Emissions. That was in the locality of Shinrarta Dezhra.
 
Not wanting to seem facetious, but you do know how to use the FSS, right? I only ask because it's so easy with this tool. I went HGE hunting a couple of days ago and found around one in every three systems, plus a load of Encoded Emissions. That was in the locality of Shinrarta Dezhra.

Not wanting to seem facetious, but you do understand the meaning of the word "dull", right?

If HGEs are there to be found, and contain the desired mat's, they're certainly easy to find.
My issue, however, is that the entire process is tedious, uninvolving and lacks agency.
Or, to put it more simply; DULL.
 

DDastardly00

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I have good news, and I have bad news. Yes, I have just gotten 9 pharma isos out of an outbreak system. That is the good news. Relog-quitting no longer works. That is the bad news.

Better than nothing, thank you, this gives me hope.
 
Not wanting to seem facetious, but you do understand the meaning of the word "dull", right?

If HGEs are there to be found, and contain the desired mat's, they're certainly easy to find.
My issue, however, is that the entire process is tedious, uninvolving and lacks agency.
Or, to put it more simply; DULL.

When I said I didn't want to seem facetious I meant it. As to the grind: in a game full of grind - you must have noticed - I find resource hunting oddly pleasant now that the FSS has been provided. I'm not sure why but there it is. If you want more excitement you could try piracy or bounty hunting. That usually results in stuff.
 
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