Correction for those who want and can get access.
Content only available to part of the player base is a form of exclusion which is a bad thing.
Lost potential in the CG
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Content only available to part of the player base is a form of exclusion which is a bad thing.
Wait for the inevitable retort that console players should have no issue in either paying for multiplayer or being content to exist in solo...
I'm principally a PC player, also have a PS4 and resent having to pay an additional cost for the content I get free on the PC.
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The difference is, I will be wanting to land and then leave the pads - they will just arrive and sit on them so I can't land there again, while their mates blow up arriving ships - lulz to be had for both the pad blockers and the actual attackers no doubt. Not so much for those who want to get things done for the CG.
Sitting in the hangar doesn't free up a pad, by the way. I've experienced this countless times when dealing with pad hoggers, it's one of the most frustrating experiences in the game for me, even worse than getting ganked (at least that can be exciting). It's a reason for me to use the block function, though thankfully switching modes helps if it's just a once off.
Without the ability to switch modes (or block the individual(s)) it's not possible to get around this issue, and there is no timer to kick you out of the instance. Even if there was, how long would you have to wait? 10 minutes? 15? Probably one of the reasons it's not a thing right now.
Don't get me wrong, I have seen 'orderly queues' during past CGs at megaships where each ship waited until others are done (assuming that everyone plays along), but being a sitting duck emulating a traffic jam isn't compelling gameplay personally, YMMV of course.
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They are obviously trying to get rid of the toddlers, but have ran out of milk & biscuits to tempt them away...Uh oh, the WWII vets have uncovered this thread and came to bombThey must be constantly searching the forums with the keyword "open".
Please read carefully and maybe you'll realize no one wants to disturb your snail pace....
Well, toddlers, in general, are lacking any of the essential 'life skills'...
Uh oh, the WWII vets have uncovered this thread and came to bomb
Please read carefully and maybe you'll realize no one wants to disturb your snail pace....
Listen .... you were merely called out as making a post promoting PvP, it doesn't matter that you say "Solo and PG is OK" - the fact is you are espousing something to encourage open only play so as to provide PvP content. Responding to the criticism of that by indulging in denigration and insults really does not bolster your case, quite the reverse.
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And why exactly should I be "called out" for merely suggesting an optional objective for those who want player to player interaction???
Furthermore, all three of you who who insulted me first and tried to degrade the post as "another open only post", did not provide ANY arguments against it whatsoever.
I think that justifies some reaction.
RL forums are not CGs in Solo. They do involve reactions.
Furthermore, all three of you who who insulted me first and tried to degrade the post as "another open only post", did not provide ANY arguments against it whatsoever.
I think that justifies some reaction.
RL forums are not CGs in Solo. They do involve reactions.
If ya'll want more players in open, FD need to stop pandering to gankers with arcade consequences for being psycho mass-murderers.
If you consider the game as it is today:
Those who choose to play in open will continue to do so, as will those who opt for either of the two other modes - it is the way of the playerbase we have.
So, no incentive to play in open is needed, it has plenty of supporters (allegedly) who wouldn't ever consider playing in any other mode... It is this 'simple fact' you have overlooked (and is gaining negative comments) - no 'incentive' is needed for open as we are already playing in the modes of our choice...
(I trust that was a civilised enough response, it is impossible to place any inflections on the written word to provide proper context!)
I think you went over them. They are not even close to being a comment. Just some mocking reaction trying to reduce the post to nothing, with no argumentation whatsoever.
As I said before, I play in PG and Im not fighting for Open. The fact that open players will continue to play in open, doesnt mean that they wouldn't appreciate a bit more meaning and consequence in it.
Lastly, please do me a big favor, as you seem to be more adept in written language than some others (including me probably-not my mother tongue); Read my OP again and tell me if you find any reason for me to be flamed at. Im genuinely asking.
I think it was solely this one:
Which is the proverbial "red rag" as it is open to misinterpretation due to the immense dislike of 'segregation' by some players. We do have total inclusion for any event, in that each of us are able to play in whatever mode we wish, at any time, having an event that 'forces' participation in open is going to generate negativity, partly because, in particular, some console players may not have paid the 'online play tax' to Sony or Microsoft so would be instantly excluded from participation.
(I won't deny that I am in the "no open only events" camp, so will never claim to be completely impartial!)
Sorry, that was a lot of answer...
I'd never have known English wasn't your 1st language - you have an excellent grasp of it!
Do think its unfair childish and stifling thought albeit stupid or anal or even plain ideas. That those who flame and just post quips clicky quips that provoke a laugh from peers, destroys thought freedom of expression and above all..a potential pearl of an idea.
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Thanks for your kind words, although I suck at spoken English, as I have never lived abroad
Also thanks for this, long due, civilized and elaborate reply, with real arguments for a change
I was not aware of the fact that console players need to pay more for interaction with other players, until a person mentioned it in this thread. This complicates things a bit I must admit, although it is not FDev's fault and has nothing to do with Elite's game design.
My main concern all along was not to promote open play, but take advantage of opportunities to enrich gameplay and story. Some of the ways, inevitably involve player to player interaction, that is why I suggested it was inserted as a secondary goal. No worries though, we can agree to disagree, as long its in a civilized manner and with real arguments.
As far as the "all modes are equal" moto.....no they're not. Nor do they give the same opportunities to players. Its not the same trying to influence the BGS and Powerplay from open with real opposition, with freely doing your job while being invincible in solo.
Wow, firstly, just hang on there pal. I never insulted you, you were the one insulting people.
I used the phrase "called out" as meaning that I was focussing on your promoting a game feature to be restricted to Open Play only. Basically, we get frequent iterations of threads looking to increase the amount of players in Open Play. This is just another one. If you play in PG all the time, why are you suggesting something which basically is just a means of providing PvP content?
So, this thread to me is just another disguise for a "I want more players to shoot at" thread. You might say it isn't - I chose not to believe you.
.....it might just be me, but I take that as insulting and non-constructive. Sorry if Im wrong.Oh look mommy, a Solo and PG are bad thread...
