Make dinosaur size more accurate

Apersonwiththebighopeforjwe

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hi folks! im here want to share my opinion about the dinosaur size, pls make dinosaur size more accurate to the movie in the future patch, the rest of the game im fine about it.

i know im whining but i just want this game to be more accurate and stick to the movie lore, thanks :)
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
Spinosaurus, and Ceratosaurus are accurate size to their movie (JP3) portrayals.
As in JP3 - Spinosaurus was actually slightly smaller than the real life version. In real life version - Spinosaurus has been estimated at about 13.4-15.24 meters/44-50 feet, The JP 3 Spinosaurus - is about 13.4 meters/44 feet, about 6 meters/19.7 feet tall at the top of the spines. In the movie Spinosaurus looks so large because it faced off against a small sub-adult T,rex.

Still - if Frontier based the game T.rex - off Rexy's (the T.rex from JP, JW, & JW:FK) JW stats - then it could definitely make the Spinosaurus seem to be smaller. In JW & JW:FK - Rexy is a fully grown, old T.rex (at least 27-30 years old) - being 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 5.1 meters/16.8 feet tall.

By comparison - the JP3 Ceratosaurus is actually about 2 meters longer than it's real life counterpart - about 9.14 meters/30 feet in JP3 vs. 7 meters/23 feet in real life .

Diplodocus was never actually in a JP/JW movie, to date. But if they based on real life like they have with Apatosaurus - then it should be about 25- 33 meters/82-108 feet long
 
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Apersonwiththebighopeforjwe

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Dinoken said:
Spinosaurus, and Ceratosaurus are accurate size to their movie (JP3) portrayals.
As in JP3 - Spinosaurus was actually slightly smaller than the real life version. In real life version - Spinosaurus has been estimated at about 13.4-15.24 meters/44-50 feet, The JP 3 Spinosaurus - is about 13.4 meters/44 feet, about 6 meters/19.7 feet tall at the top of the spines. In the movie Spinosaurus looks so large because it faced off against a small sub-adult T,rex.

Still - if Frontier based the game T.rex - off Rexy's (the T.rex from JP, JW, & JW:FK) JW stats - then it could definitely make the Spinosaurus seem to be smaller. In JW & JW:FK - Rexy is a fully grown, old T.rex (at least 27-30 years old) - being 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 5.1 meters/16.8 feet tall.

By comparison - the JP3 Ceratosaurus is actually about 2 meters longer than it's real life counterpart - about 9.14 meters/30 feet in JP3 vs. 7 meters/23 feet in real life .

Diplodocus was never actually in a JP/JW movie, to date. But if they based on real life like they have with Apatosaurus - then it should be about 25- 33 meters/82-108 feet long
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dude thank you for your explaination, appreciate it.
but imo the spinosaurus in jurassic park 3 look a little bit bigger compared to a person but in this game its slightly smaller i think, but i could be wrong. we'll see when the game is out
 

Parritron

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Watching the latest videos it seems that Velociraptor, Deinonychus and Dilophosaurus seem to have the same size. It does not finish convincing me. In the raptor vs deino fight they looked exactly equal in size.

The Spinosaurus will be corrected for sure, it must be a bit bigger than T-Rex and not the same size. As for Ceratosaurus, although it is true that it is well in size with respect to JP3, it seems to me enormous, it is gigantic, only a little smaller than T-Rex. I do not like it, but if it goes like that in the movies ... I will have to conform hahaha

Waiting to see the rest of carnivores, hopefully we will see variety of sizes and that a Ceratosaurus is not exactly as big as an Allosaurus or a Carnotaurus.
 
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Andrew2018

Andrew2018
Dippy was not even in the game, but they actually have her as a accurate size since there was different species of them (I forget the exactly name) but it was roughly the size of the one portrayed in the game)
 

gingeyphillips

gingeyphillips
Dinoken said:
Spinosaurus, and Ceratosaurus are accurate size to their movie (JP3) portrayals.
As in JP3 - Spinosaurus was actually slightly smaller than the real life version. In real life version - Spinosaurus has been estimated at about 13.4-15.24 meters/44-50 feet, The JP 3 Spinosaurus - is about 13.4 meters/44 feet, about 6 meters/19.7 feet tall at the top of the spines. In the movie Spinosaurus looks so large because it faced off against a small sub-adult T,rex.

Still - if Frontier based the game T.rex - off Rexy's (the T.rex from JP, JW, & JW:FK) JW stats - then it could definitely make the Spinosaurus seem to be smaller. In JW & JW:FK - Rexy is a fully grown, old T.rex (at least 27-30 years old) - being 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 5.1 meters/16.8 feet tall.

By comparison - the JP3 Ceratosaurus is actually about 2 meters longer than it's real life counterpart - about 9.14 meters/30 feet in JP3 vs. 7 meters/23 feet in real life .

Diplodocus was never actually in a JP/JW movie, to date. But if they based on real life like they have with Apatosaurus - then it should be about 25- 33 meters/82-108 feet long
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Didn't they base the Tyrannosaurus from JP3 off of Buck from The Lost World as they used his animatronic but just repainted it? I know the females are still larger in both the films and in real life but it seems a bit weird that it was sub-adult if they used the Buck model for it, unless it was a sub-adult female I guess.
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
Yes - they did to save time and money, during the production of JP3.

However - according to JP3 stats - that T.rex is about 1 meter shorter than Buck from Lost World.
Here is the stats of all of the "adult/near adult" T.rexes from the JP/JW series

Rexy: - 13.4 (44 feet) meters long, 5.1 (16 feet 10 inch) meters tall - her JW stats by the way.

Buck (Male T.rex from TLW): 12.2 (40 feet) meters long, 4.9 (16 feet) meters tall

Doe (Female T.rex from TLW): 12.8 (42 feet) meters long, 4.9 (16 feet) meters tall

Male T.rex in JP3: 11.3 (37 feet) meters long, 4.5 (14.5 feet) meters tall

Note - that Buck and Doe are actually considered to be siblings(hatched at about the same time) of Rexy. The male of JP3 is considered to either the juvenile seen in Lost World (grown up) or more likely a new T.rex which was hatched about the same time as the Spinosaurus . It is also very possible that the Spinosaurus since in JP3 was not fully grown
 
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gingeyphillips

gingeyphillips
Dinoken said:
Yes - they did to save time and money, during the production of JP3.

However - according to JP3 stats - that T.rex is about 1 meter shorter than Buck from Lost World.
Here is the stats of all of the "adult/near adult" T.rexes from the JP/JW series

Rexy: - 13.4 (44 feet) meters long, 5.1 (16 feet 10 inch) meters tall - her JW stats by the way.

Buck (Male T.rex from TLW): 12.2 (40 feet) meters long, 4.9 (16 feet) meters tall

Doe (Female T.rex from TLW): 12.8 (42 feet) meters long, 4.9 (16 feet) meters tall

Male T.rex in JP3: 11.3 (37 feet) meters long, 4.5 (14.5 feet) meters tall

Note - that Buck and Doe are actually considered to be siblings(hatched at about the same time) of Rexy. The male of JP3 is considered to either the juvenile seen in Lost World (grown up) or more likely a new T.rex which was hatched about the same time as the Spinosaurus . It is also very possible that the Spinosaurus since in JP3 was not fully grown
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I see, I always assumed because of the animatronic the size would have been the same as 'Buck' but given the short screen time it has it's hard to compare, so if the JP3 stats show its size then that's definitely what I should have based it off of! I just looked at the Spinosaurus size and it's 4.8m tall at the head and 13.3m long which puts it smaller than the JW Tyrannosaurus, although only marginally. However I've only found the length for it to be 12m for the JW/FK Tyrannosaurus, and that's on both the Wiki and the current promotional content. Provided that your JW sizes are accurate rather than what I've looked at it would still only be a very minor size difference onscreen, but if that image of the JWE size comparison is accurately showing the size difference (which I still doubt it is as I said in my previous comment) then it shows that there's a much bigger size difference than what these other stats say. I just wish Universal had a size for each animal and stuck to it because there's so many pages saying different things lol. These are the links to the sources I'm using:

http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/File:JP3_Size_Chart.jpg
http://islanublar.jurassicworld.com/dinosaurs/tyrannosaurus-rex/
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
Well - the most of those Dinosaur stats are either based on the real world dinosaurs, or the species average in the series. The only exception is - Velociraptor.

Note - how it claims the Mosasaur was about 55-60 feet long - yet the one in Jurassic World is actually about 70-75 feet.

Here is a image which shows Rexy compared to the Indominus rex
http://i.imgur.com/qAFi2PO.png

Also a link to the Jurassic World Evolution Wiki - Tyrannosaurus rex
http://jurassicworld-evolution.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrannosaurus#cite_note-i.imgur.com-1
 
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gingeyphillips

gingeyphillips
Dinoken said:
Well - the most of those Dinosaur stats are either based on the real world dinosaurs, or the species average in the series. The only exception is - Velociraptor.

Note - how it claims the Mosasaur was about 55-60 feet long - yet the one in Jurassic World is actually about 70-75 feet.

Here is a image which shows Rexy compared to the Indominus rex
http://i.imgur.com/qAFi2PO.png

Also a link to the Jurassic World Evolution Wiki - Tyrannosaurus rex
http://jurassicworld-evolution.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrannosaurus#cite_note-i.imgur.com-1
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Thanks for the links, it's making more sense as to why they do size estimations for the species as opposed to a specific size (e.g.: the Tyrannosaurus has an estimation 12.2m-13.4m) because its apparent there's a lot of different sizes in the franchise to take into account. However I looked through that site for other sizes, most seemed about right for the in-game sizes but the Spinosaurus is 18m long, which just adds another size conflict lol. I don't know if this means it's going to be 18m long in the game or if its just an outdated size speculation for it?
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
However I looked through that site for other sizes, most seemed about right for the in-game sizes but the Spinosaurus is 18m long, which just adds another size conflict lol. I don't know if this means it's going to be 18m long in the game or if its just an outdated size speculation for it?
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I have never seen any estimations for the JP3 Spinosaurus of 18 meters. The official stats from JP3 promo states that the Spinosaurus was 13.3 meters/almost 44 feet - so that is what we go with.

In fact - the only estimates I have heard for a 18 meter long Spinosaurus are based on Dal Sasso's 2005 estimations. In fact - before the first composite mounted specimen was produced, estimates for Spinosaurus ranged from as low as 12.5 meters/41 feet to as high as 18 meters/59 feet. It has only been since the most recent Spinosaurus mount was revealed in late 2014 - that they have a fairly accurate estimation of 14.3-15.24 meters/47-50 feet in length.

Now I could see a valid claim being made that maybe the Spinosaurus was not fully grown yet. But again this is something which has never been confirmed.
 
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gingeyphillips

gingeyphillips
Dinoken said:
I have never seen any estimations for the JP3 Spinosaurus of 18 meters. The official stats from JP3 promo states that the Spinosaurus was 13.3 meters/almost 44 feet - so that is what we go with.

In fact - the only estimates I have heard for a 18 meter long Spinosaurus are based on Dal Sasso's 2005 estimations. In fact - before the first composite mounted specimen was produced, estimates for Spinosaurus ranged from as low as 12.5 meters/41 feet to as high as 18 meters/59 feet. It has only been since the most recent Spinosaurus mount was revealed in late 2014 - that they have a fairly accurate estimation of 14.3-15.24 meters/47-50 feet in length.

Now I could see a valid claim being made that maybe the Spinosaurus was not fully grown yet. But again this is something which has never been confirmed.
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Sorry I should have shared the link I was looking at:

http://jurassicworld-evolution.wikia.com/wiki/Spinosaurus

I know that 18m is the real life MAXIMUM estimate to what it could have been (with 14-15m being the more realistic estimation like you said) but it seemed odd that would be the size listed in the wiki for the game is all.
 

Grimnir

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gingeyphillips said:
Sorry I should have shared the link I was looking at:

http://jurassicworld-evolution.wikia.com/wiki/Spinosaurus

I know that 18m is the real life MAXIMUM estimate to what it could have been (with 14-15m being the more realistic estimation like you said) but it seemed odd that would be the size listed in the wiki for the game is all.
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Makes me concerned for the giganotosaurus as they pretty much ruined spinosaurus by making it smaller than the T-rex. T-rex didnt become more than 12.2m long at the largest and the spino was supposed with the most recent numbers hit 15 meters atleast. Giganotosaurus's length was estimated to be 14.3 m long. So i am fully expecting them to make it larger than the T-rex.

Right now i feel like the whole size thing is a big mixed bag. Ceratosaurus is basically 10m long because of genetic experimentation. If that is the case, why cant we get the T-rex murdering spino in the game? They both fall under the same category of being genetically manipulated to be stronger and deadlier. Fact is, ceratosaurus should run in a panic if it sees any of the larger carnivores.
 

Fluffy_Flippers

Fluffy_Flippers
Grimnir said:
Makes me concerned for the giganotosaurus as they pretty much ruined spinosaurus by making it smaller than the T-rex. T-rex didnt become more than 12.2m long at the largest and the spino was supposed with the most recent numbers hit 15 meters atleast. Giganotosaurus's length was estimated to be 14.3 m long. So i am fully expecting them to make it larger than the T-rex.

Right now i feel like the whole size thing is a big mixed bag. Ceratosaurus is basically 10m long because of genetic experimentation. If that is the case, why cant we get the T-rex murdering spino in the game? They both fall under the same category of being genetically manipulated to be stronger and deadlier. Fact is, ceratosaurus should run in a panic if it sees any of the larger carnivores.
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One thing you have to remember is that in JP/JW sizes can be different then the actual fossils in the real world. I believe it was also mentioned that the T-rex in JP3 was a younger rex and that the Spinosaurus was a full adult. So with that in mind they should be about equal height in the game according to the JP/JW logic. Don't look at real life comparisons for the known JP/JW dinosaurs because they will be off. This is not a Dinosaur park building game, it's a JW park building game ;).

The stats of the dino's in JWE also depend on if they are at 100% genome and if they are enhanced or not.
 

kjasnksir

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Just to clarify, the length listed in the JP3 size chart is incorrect. It says the Spino is 43 ft 9 inches long, but the chart depicts it at 46 ft long. The Heights listed are correct, though. So actually, the Spinosaurus is larger then any of the Tyrannosaurus in the franchise. For the rexes, there are some different sizes listed, all of them from licensed souces. Some say Rexy is 44 ft long, others say 41... The Spinosaurus size is very clearly set, due t the JP3 size chart. It is actually trickier to determine how large the rexes really are.
 

Kikke

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Well, in the OFFICIAL Jurassic World page, T rex Roberta does not measure 13 meters, go see and clearly says 12 meters. In itself, Joe (The director of jp3) said that the spino is bigger than a Trex, if you do not believe me go and see the additional material of jp3 and in the interviews says that

I do not rely on theories that anyone invents on the internet, I rely on official facts
 
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