Make Elite an MMO again !!

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So you claim the immersion factor of this proposal is bad while you sustain actual immersion factor of people having a faction war not being able to fight themselver for example is good. Not talking about real immersion killers like combat logging or mission/instance logging to claim rewards/loot. Or the infinite proves in planet scanning.

Also I already said a mechanic to avoid exploits in opening post. Sure we will need more.

Talking about other things, can you please be for once constructive? What will you do in FDev position to make Open play more fair, as its a fact, its a X% more risky than solo...
One can actually minimise added risks of flying in open to point where they are near nill. Creative use of carrier, flying something that withstands fire untill jump timer or logout timer runs to zero, learning who local gankers are and blocking them for good. So added reward should be on par with actual added risk.
 
Of course it could be implemented in a way as to give the bonus gradually the longer you've been logged on Open and doing stuff other than chilling docked. That'd prevent the abuse you mentioned.

Wouldn't matter. I'm not talking about dipping into open and back out, I'm just talking about grinding a system. If you play in open and choose to avoid players, it's the exact same thing as playing in solo.
 
Wouldn't matter. I'm not talking about dipping into open and back out, I'm just talking about grinding a system. If you play in open and choose to avoid players, it's the exact same thing as playing in solo.

Not at 100%

IE you will need a ship able to avoid certain encounters. Selection of the ship, precise engineering on FSD, thrusters, shields...

Always making the game richer in all senses, anyways.
 
Oh don’t get me wrong, EVE looks great, is hella successful for its niche (I use the word niche here in the same manner that Elite is a niche game) but I tried it and didn’t like it myself. Felt too much like it was going to turn into a second job and require too much dedication, which ironically despite ending up like that as well Elite allows for a much more casual playstyle. Plus, all the spreadsheets hurt my eyes. And some of the key control bindings didn’t work on my computer back when I tried it, for some reason. And I don’t like subscription games. I mean, apart from all that I’m sure it’s great.

And heres one of the poitns, is EVE the niche or its ED?

If you look at numbers the answer is clear I guess...
 
Wouldn't matter. I'm not talking about dipping into open and back out, I'm just talking about grinding a system. If you play in open and choose to avoid players, it's the exact same thing as playing in solo.
Wait for it...
Not at 100%

IE you will need a ship able to avoid certain encounters. Selection of the ship, precise engineering on FSD, thrusters, shields...

Always making the game richer in all senses, anyways.
There it is!
The next caveat will be that to get said bonus, not only would you need to be logged into open continuously, but ...
 
And heres one of the poitns, is EVE the niche or its ED?

If you look at numbers the answer is clear I guess...

Well yes, but I’m sure it’s still a drop in the ocean compared to the active player count of a AAA blockbuster. They’re both games of their own niche, that’s not a insult at all. If your suggestion is that Elite should be more like EVE to be more successful I’d counter that FDev are doing just fine as they are on the whole, and then say what would be the point? We could just play EVE instead. I’m sure plenty do, because you’re allowed to like both games, but they’re very different beasts and if Elite became more, erm, EVElite I’d doubt it would be healthy for the active player-base in my opinion. One of Elite’s strengths is that it caters to a wide range of play styles from PvE to PvP (badly you might argue if you’re into competition), from casual soloist to dedicated squadron team-player. EVE always struck me as a far more intense experience, requiring coordination and dedication I had neither the time nor inclination for; I admire the concept but it never fired my thrusters like Elite does. Plus I much prefer flying my own ships!
 

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Wait for it...

There it is!

Lol. The predictability is actually pretty funny.

Support for this bingo game is looking like...
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Not at 100%

IE you will need a ship able to avoid certain encounters. Selection of the ship, precise engineering on FSD, thrusters, shields...

Always making the game richer in all senses, anyways.

Reducing the amount of choices players have with ships and outfitting doesn't make the game richer, but the point is moot since it's not necessary anyway. You don't need any special ships or even engineering to play in untraveled systems.
 

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I don't think I'd get away with suggesting my absolute favourite though 🥳

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Well...at least it's fast. :)
Just a shame about the turning circle. Versatile as hell tho. I'm guessing OP wouldn't exactly have it as a favourite target tho, eh?

Next caveat....extra bonus points for flying slow, unarmed and fat ships that are easy to kill. :D

I bet those will be just what's needed to add some vim and zest to Open.

Edit; I realise my sarcasm module's still quite operational...
 

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In a nutshell! My most used ship(s) just because they are quick, cheap, and stupidly fun to fly - my next stunt is to fly one back from Colonia, not lightened for exploration, just in case :)

Stripped & sold mine cos it wasn't fun enough to fly. That's just me tho :)

Best thing about the game tho - lots of ships, lots of players, lots of ways to play and lots of different views.
Even if it does provoke the almost-daily Hotel California.
 
Do you post in every single suggestion thread you don't agree? Maybe so to reach your 10k+ posts I guess 😂 . If you don't agree, I don't really see the point of participating more than what you already have
Oh, this one is sooo simple, if we stop telling you, No, then you make the assumption that you have/are winning. You refuse to argue, but you will claim to have won the argument because no one is rebutting you. Oh, and as to posting our disagreement, you might have noticed that most of us offer constructive criticism when we think the suggestion might be salvageable with some tweaking.

Of course, for most of us, the fact that you have devolved to nothing but insults and mockery shows that you've lost not only the argument, but your cool. You just haven't admitted it, yet.

Truth of the matter, this entire thread was DoA because it is possibly the most blatant example of, "I want preferential treatment", in the last six months. You even admit it, then expect those of us you want discriminated against to like it.
 
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Im enjoying reading your answers beyond my expectations...

Its fascinating how from a single premise (double open rewards) came a gazillion of crystal ball complicated predictions about the apocalypse and what terrible kind of persons can post in a suggestions forum something like a suggestion.

Even if people playing solo/priv are not affected by the proposed changes.

Just amazing, keep it going !!
 
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Oh, this one is sooo simple, if we stop telling you, No, then you make the assumption that you have/are winning.
"winning"? Mate, this is a suggestion in the suggestion section of the forum. It's not a debate, and I'm not a forum warrior, as some others who have collected four- or even five-digits post counts seem to be.

Of course, for most of us, the fact that you have devolved to nothing but insults and mockery shows that you've lost not only the argument, but your cool. You just haven't admitted it, yet.
I had let this thread rest and you are the one who comes and quotes me after many new messages and I'm the one insulting and mocking? Jeez someone call the police.

Also, your post is totally off-topic, as are many others before you. And a personal attack post, as a moderator warned against doing. See: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/make-elite-an-mmo-again.564252/post-8927159
 
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"winning"? Mate, this is a suggestion in the suggestion section of the forum. It's not a debate, and I'm not a forum warrior, as some others who have collected four- or even five-digits post counts are.
First off, I am not your Mate, Bro, Friend, etc, and the verbal intrusion of personal space is just another attack. Second, it IS a debate, as you put forth a suggestion, and we rebutted it. Not sure why you feel the need to compare inputs, but I joined in January of 2016, so, of course I have a lot more input to the forum than you unless you 've been obsessive about it; I'm not sure of the relavence, but it stands.

As to winning, I specifically referred to You in that mode because you have consistently done whatever you could to come out on top, including but not limited to, cherry picking other people's statements to take them out of context, twisting other people's statements to support your desire, coopting other peoples' positions, and, when you had nothing else, personal attacks like the one quoted above.

I had let this thread rest and you are the one who comes and quotes me after many new messages and I'm the one insulting and mocking? Jeez someone call the police.
Sorry, I was gaming with my wife. I am curious though, which is it, a "forum warrior, as some others who have collected four- or even five-digits post counts" implying I spend too much time on the forum or someone who takes too long to respond? You've gone and taken both ends of the pendulum again.

As to conflating merely responding with insults, trust me, you have yet to enter flame war territory with anyone in this thread. Out of respect to Robert, and not wanting him to have to go "official", you won't be seeing it from me.

Edit: At the title, the number 12 million licenses was bandied about after the Epic freebie fest. How many players do we need to be MMO?
 
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Im enjoying reading your answers beyond my expectations...

Its fascinating how from a single premise (double open rewards) came a gazillion of crystal ball complicated predictions about the apocalypse and what terrible kind of persons can post in a suggestions forum something like a suggestion.

Even if people playing solo/priv are not affected by the proposed changes.

Just amazing, keep it going !!
Well, would Open or just PG fans like say 2xrewards for playing solo? After all Open/PG players are not affected by proposed changes?
 
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