Manticore Suit - alternative 'perk'..?

[jpjeffrey]

I suggest that, instead of having a secondary primary weapon as a 'tool' , the Manticore suit should have a C4 charge, or shaped charge, capable of opening those locked doors on settlement installations.
(I find myself using the Maverick suit, so that I can use the cutter for a 'quick and dirty' entry, whereas with the Manticore I find I have to hunt around for a suitable clone, etc.
Or mebbe that's the point.... )

 

[GroG79]

E-breaches can do that

 

[jpjeffrey]

Yeah, that gets you through ONE door, and 1 E-breach is your limit with the Manticore suit....

 

[zikolach]

E-breaches can do that

Am I wrong - e-breach can usually open doors "from inside" only. With cutter you can cur a panel and then overcharge socket OR apply e-breach.

Or mebbe that's the point.... )

I guess it is "by design", but I agree there would be nice to have more variety. Like now - maverick can open doors, dominator suit - could e.g. break windows (with grenade launcher?), artemis muit could help to find a way in through vent system

 

[HRDiagram]

Am I wrong - e-breach can usually open doors "from inside" only. With cutter you can cur a panel and then overcharge socket OR apply e-breach.

You don't need to cut the panel to apply the e-breach. You can access all doors and terminals without a Maverick suit if you have enough e-breaches.

 

[GroG79]

Yeah, that gets you through ONE door, and 1 E-breach is your limit with the Manticore suit....

So how many C4s do you suggest? Remember you are trading it out for a secondary rifle with the dominator suit being a combat suit.
Also.. /roleplay: C4 will trigger all alarms and NPCs

I'd like it if Fdev gives all suits a extra e-breach

 

[Winterwalker]

Yeah, that gets you through ONE door, and 1 E-breach is your limit with the Manticore suit....

Are you not just asking for a Maverick suit with more shield / armour really?

I do like the idea of breaking windows and blowing up bridges but for the immediate problem you're trying to solve I think a Maverick with extra damage reduction engineering already gets you there? And as others have said there are ways around it in Dominator suit even. Park your SRV outside the door and you can transfer ebreaches into your backpack at will. Target disabling the security doors first and then you can ditch your security pass too. Then you can wander around the base at will.

I've actually taken to cutting one door, somewhere out of the way and around the back, to get a foothold into security access. Once that's done you could switch to Dominator but honestly, in a Dominator suit why bnother? Smash and grab? Shoot your way in.

 

[jpjeffrey]

Well, you COULD have a limited number of charges as seemed to be suggested, but why not tie it to POWER USAGE from the suit (just like the Maverick and the Artemis)...?

'Parking the bus' outside the PWR is attractive, but it can get dreary if it happens to be one of those PWR-at-the-end-of-the-AGRI settlements.
(.... AND if you want to get your Power Regulator back, while you're making your way back there's a chance that the bus will be destroyed by those pesky commandoes rappelling down from the dropship... )

Remember, the Manticore suit is already limited in what it can carry in its backpack ... the Maverick suit leaves it for dead in this respect.

Regarding the noise/gameplay: This is a fair point; surely the action of the Maverick cutter should make SOME noise.....?

 

[zikolach]

You don't need to cut the panel to apply the e-breach. You can access all doors and terminals without a Maverick suit if you have enough e-breaches.

I probably got confused by the fact that settlement was disabled, so there was no way to charge the door from outside to apply e-breach. Is it correct?

 

[HRDiagram]

I probably got confused by the fact that settlement was disabled, so there was no way to charge the door from outside to apply e-breach. Is it correct?

Correct, no power, no way to apply the e-breach.