Mapping a ringed planet? Get edge-on to the rings

I hope I'm not stating the obvious and much-repeated here, but I haven't seen this anywhere else yet so here goes.

A problem with mapping ringed planets is that the probes are likely to impact the rings. I've watched one of our content creators struggle with this - no criticism of him, I couldn't fly my ship and make a video at the same time - and as I watched him it occurred to me that if he had placed his ship edge-on to the rings there was no way the probe paths could intersect the rings before they impacted the planets.

So I've just been out trying that very thing for myself. I went to Shinrarta Dezhra AB1, manoeuvred until the rings were an almost invisible line across my screen, then started launching probes.

My one concession to the presence of the rings was that I didn't fire any probe into the plane of the rings. If this were reality, the chances of a probe so launched colliding with the rings would be infinitesimal, but I don't know what the collision detection algorithm in the game is, so I angled my probes away from the ring.

Otherwise I mapped SD AB1 exactly as I would map any other planet - the rings might as well not have been there. I didn't have to move my ship at all.

Two other observations:

I visited SD AB1 both with a stock scanner and a fully engineered one. The efficiency target displayed - 22 - was the same in each case. I think this was already known, but I wanted to check it for myself.

I actually mapped the planet on my second visit, with the fully engineered DSS.

I'd love to tell you exactly how many probes it took me, but all I can say is that I think it was more than ten and less than fifteen; unfortunately the display of number of probes used seemed to have disappeared before I could move my eyes across from the percentage mapped figure. And even the latest version of EDDiscovery doesn't capture that data. Oh well.

Hope someone finds this helpful.
 
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No way you can map the entire planet (Gas Giant) with rings for the reason you mentioned. The best I've got is 75% mapped before I have to move location to finish that last 25%. Worth mentioning that there is a bug with the DSS at the moment where you map a couple of planets and all the rest in the system show as mapped. So dropping probes on them won't show so you have to exit to main menu and then restart.
 
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Stay tuned for my next PGA video. Gas giants, especially ringed gas giants can be mapped, below par, without moving or going edge on with rings. I did not say “easily”, but certainly possible. I know, I’ve mapped a few hundred so far. They’re kind of fun, like a dog leg with sand traps.

Edit: Typing on my phone sucks. Between “make up a word” function, and tiny keys, it sucks.
 
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No way you can map the entire planet (Gas Giant) with rings for the reason you mentioned. The best I've got is 75% mapped before I have to move location to finish that last 25%. Worth mentioning that there is a bug with the DSS at the moment where you map a couple of planets and all the rest in the system show as mapped. So dropping probes on them won't show so you have to exit to main menu and then restart.

All I can say to that is, "Yes! Way!" You will of course have to move in order to map the rings themselves, but it's certainly possible to map the entire planet without moving. Either that or those mushrooms I ate with dinner weren't what I thought they were.

Why don't you try my method before dismissing it?

IndigoWyrd, post a link to your video when it's done. I don't doubt you can do it - people can do amazing things in this game that I couldn't begin to attempt - but unlike you I do feel able to say of my method, "easily".
 
All I can say to that is, "Yes! Way!" You will of course have to move in order to map the rings themselves, but it's certainly possible to map the entire planet without moving. Either that or those mushrooms I ate with dinner weren't what I thought they were.

Why don't you try my method before dismissing it?

IndigoWyrd, post a link to your video when it's done. I don't doubt you can do it - people can do amazing things in this game that I couldn't begin to attempt - but unlike you I do feel able to say of my method, "easily".

OP, yep that is exactly the way I map any body with a ring around it, worked that out after my first failed attempt in Beta. In fact the tricky part I found was getting perfectly aligned so the ring almost disappears. After that, I just treat the body like any other large body.

Kudos for passing this information on to the community.
 
Thanks for the video, Para Handy!

As I suggested in my OP, I was dubious about the idea that I could have been the first person to publish this method - though whether posting on the thirty-oddth page of a thread about docking ports actually amounts to publishing....:)

Incidentally, I am getting the full 50% radius increase on my G5 DSS. Which as you'll know, equates to 2.25 times the coverage area of an unengineered scanner's probe.

It really is easy mode as far as the efficiency target is concerned - which is why I was wondering whether Frontier might have reduced the number of probes required for engineered DSSs to reach the efficiency target. But apparently not.
 
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No way you can map the entire planet (Gas Giant) with rings for the reason you mentioned. The best I've got is 75% mapped before I have to move location to finish that last 25%. Worth mentioning that there is a bug with the DSS at the moment where you map a couple of planets and all the rest in the system show as mapped. So dropping probes on them won't show so you have to exit to main menu and then restart.

Actually, the way the OP mentioned works, I have been doing the same since 3.3 went live. Not gone over 'par' either, but my DSS was G5 engineered before the update. Try it, it's fun :D
 
Thanks for the video, Para Handy!

As I suggested in my OP, I was dubious about the idea that I could have been the first person to publish this method - though whether posting on the thirty-oddth page of a thread about docking ports actually amounts to publishing....:)
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Quite true, so I have added it to my "Setup and Use of the Exploration Tools - With Demonstration Videos" thread in the Guides & Tutorials sub-forum.

I am not a polished "content creator" so my videos are rough and ready I'm afraid (especially the audio). :)
 
Ok, so this isn't my usual video fare - I wasn't paying attention, and picked up some audio that, trust me, you'll be glad isn't in this clip.

[video=youtube_share;t6T2Je9Yu6s]https://youtu.be/t6T2Je9Yu6s[/video]

Still a birdie on a ringed gas giant, from a stationary (ish) position. It CAN be done.
 
I'd love to tell you exactly how many probes it took me, but all I can say is that I think it was more than ten and less than fifteen; unfortunately the display of number of probes used seemed to have disappeared before I could move my eyes across from the percentage mapped figure. And even the latest version of EDDiscovery doesn't capture that data. Oh well.

Hope someone finds this helpful.

EDDiscovery does show the number of probes used for me. Under the "SAA Scan complete" entry detailed as "Probes: 5, Efficiency Target: 6".

I'm using version 10.3.2.0
 
Ok, so this isn't my usual video fare - I wasn't paying attention, and picked up some audio that, trust me, you'll be glad isn't in this clip.



Still a birdie on a ringed gas giant, from a stationary (ish) position. It CAN be done.

Impressive! And not at all the technique I thought you were using. I thought you were hugging the pole and relying on the planet's gravity to keep the trajectory of the probes inside the orbit of the rings. Thanks for the video!

ithinkiam, next time I'm playing I'll check my version number of EDDiscovery, and look for the variable you've named. To you also, thanks!

Edit: in retrospect perhaps I should have chosen a phrase other than "hugging the pole".
 
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