Marx's guide to Notable Stellar Phenomena

What is a IOS and DP/SCA ?
Can you type out the full words or at the very least have a key at the top to explain what all these initialisms are for players that are learning. This is meant to be a guide after all.
 
What is a IOS and DP/SCA ?
Can you type out the full words or at the very least have a key at the top to explain what all these initialisms are for players that are learning. This is meant to be a guide after all.
When the question talks in bold about the Inner Orion Spur, Dryman's Point and Sagittarius-Carina Arm, I didn't think that abbreviations in the spoiler you have to click afterwards would be a problem.
But hey, it's not like I need to cut down on message size, so I just extended them.
I assume the other abbreviations are fine?
 
I've made a correction: it turns out I made a mistake, and colourful Lagrange clouds can spawn not just inside planetary nebulae, but also in systems around them. In other words, they can spawn in and around nebulae of all kinds. (Provided the conditions are right.)

I'll have to look through the examples to see if there are any cases where a PN doesn't have any NSPs, but nearby systems do. But since which nebulae have phenomena seems to be hand-picked, I'd find this unlikely. (Unless the NSP inside the nebula would be bugged, of course.)
 
Hey there Commanders ! I may need your help to finish my codex in the Galactic Center.

I'm looking for Roseum Lagrange Storm Cloud but as you already know the one reported in Juenae OX-U e2-8852 has turned into another variant.
I'm also looking for the Rubicundum Lagrange Storm Cloud but it's the same, the one reported in Myriesly MS-T E3-3831 turned into a different variant

I'm currently trying to find Lagrange Clouds in a larger Nebula (Phipoea AA-A H486) but for now I haven't found any Lagrange cloud in it.

What am I missing ? Do you guys know of any other occurence of Roseum Storm and/or Rubicundum Storm clouds in Galactic Center ? :3
 
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I'm looking for Roseum Lagrange Storm Cloud but as you already know the one reported in Juenae OX-U e2-8852 has turned into another variant.
I'm also looking for the Rubicundum Lagrange Storm Cloud but it's the same, the one reported in Myriesly MS-T E3-3831 turned into a different variant

I'm currently trying to find Lagrange Clouds in a larger Nebula (Phipoea AA-A H486) but for now I haven't found any Lagrange cloud in it.

What am I missing ? Do you guys know of any other occurence of Roseum Storm and/or Rubicundum Storm clouds in Galactic Center ? :3
The problem with Lagrange storm clouds is that they appear to be the most rare type in the galaxy, even rarer than green gas giants. Of course, the fact that some of them have been turned into regular clouds after an update certainly didn't help.

You could try searching the IGAU public Codex database at https://github.com/Elite-IGAU/publications/blob/master/IGAU_Codex.csv: that one has timestamps too, so you know that at least at the time of uploading, that was what was there in the system. Again, it's a problem though that storm clouds are so rare, it's not like people come across them often.


As for where you can find colourful Lagrange clouds, see this part from the guide:
"Lagrange clouds are not independent of space-borne life; rather, they act as containers for it. If you're looking for clouds, you'll find them where the life is meant to show up. If you're looking for the colourful clouds, you'll only find them around nebulae. This also means systems around planetary nebulae, not just inside them. Proto-Lagrange Clouds can appear anywhere where NSPs appear, they aren't restricted. Although do note that there are a few lifeforms which only appear inside rings!"

Not all nebulae have NSPs, of course. The Catalogue of Galactic Nebulae does note which ones are known to have them, but that part might not be complete. The vast majority of real nebulae have NSPs around them, while for the proc. gen. nebulae, it's the other way around.
 
The problem with Lagrange storm clouds is that they appear to be the most rare type in the galaxy, even rarer than green gas giants. Of course, the fact that some of them have been turned into regular clouds after an update certainly didn't help.

You could try searching the IGAU public Codex database at https://github.com/Elite-IGAU/publications/blob/master/IGAU_Codex.csv: that one has timestamps too, so you know that at least at the time of uploading, that was what was there in the system. Again, it's a problem though that storm clouds are so rare, it's not like people come across them often.


As for where you can find colourful Lagrange clouds, see this part from the guide:
"Lagrange clouds are not independent of space-borne life; rather, they act as containers for it. If you're looking for clouds, you'll find them where the life is meant to show up. If you're looking for the colourful clouds, you'll only find them around nebulae. This also means systems around planetary nebulae, not just inside them. Proto-Lagrange Clouds can appear anywhere where NSPs appear, they aren't restricted. Although do note that there are a few lifeforms which only appear inside rings!"

Not all nebulae have NSPs, of course. The Catalogue of Galactic Nebulae does note which ones are known to have them, but that part might not be complete. The vast majority of real nebulae have NSPs around them, while for the proc. gen. nebulae, it's the other way around.

Thank you for the quick answer Cmdr Marx !

And thank you for all your guides, I found them very useful in the completion of my Codex Entries :3 I didn't know about IGAU public Codex database, it will also help greatly !

I think I visited all known NSP nebulae which leave me with the feeling of searching something I'm not 100% sure is still existing in game (like Terraformable Ammonias) ^^

I may have few subsidiary questions that will save me from searching too long in useless areas ^^

  • Do you know how far from a planetary nebula we can find NSPs (when the planetary nebula itself is already known to have NSPs) ?
  • Do NSPs appear in Large Stellar nebulae or just in Planetary ones ?
  • For what I understood NSPs are mostly found in region where other life forms are found (surface life form i guess), does that include Anemones ? I mean, for example if I'm in Phipoea AA-A H48 and I found few B stars with anemone life form, does that mean Lagrange clouds have a chance to be around those systems ?
  • Last question I swear ! You mention few times in the guide that if all criterias are met in the correct region, a cloud should be there. I'm not sure I understood what those criteria : Around a nebula + Right region + Life bearing system ?

Again thank you for everything you're doing !
 
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Do you know how far from a planetary nebula we can find NSPs (when the planetary nebula itself is already known to have NSPs) ?
That depends on the NSP area in question, their sizes can vary. Might be 10 ly (really!), might be 50 ly.
If you're asking about how far from nebulae do colourful Lagrange clouds appear in NSPs: I'm not sure. It's something that might be worth looking into, but it has been quite low on my priority list.

Do NSPs appear in Large Stellar nebulae or just in Planetary ones ?
They do appear in both, unless they are explicitly marked in the Codex as needing a planetary nebula.

For what I understood NSPs are mostly found in region where other life forms are found (surface life form i guess), does that include Anemones ? I mean, for example if I'm in Phipoea AA-A H48 and I found few B stars with anemone life form, does that mean Lagrange clouds have a chance to be around those systems ?
Nope, NSPs are separate from surface life, so the presence of surface life isn't an indicator for the presence of spaceborne life. Especially because every region has surface life, but not every region has had NSPs found yet. (Whether that's because there aren't actually any, or if they're just hidden too well, or just bugged, is anyone's guess.)

You mention few times in the guide that if all criterias are met in the correct region, a cloud should be there. I'm not sure I understood what those criteria : Around a nebula + Right region + Life bearing system ?
Nope. This is the relevant part from the guide:
1. you have to be in the right region: not everything is present everywhere. In fact, the only things that appear in every region are anemones - but that's surface life.
2. you have to be in the right area in the region: these areas are generally confined to specific nebulae, but not always. In the cases mentioned above, it's just handy that the "right area" covers the entire region.
3. the system has to have the right contents: these are listed in the Codex, although it does have wrong or missing information here.
Mind you, this is talking about NSPs in general, not clouds! There are plenty of spaceborne lifeforms that can only appear in rings, and no Lagrange clouds will be generated for them.
You can find plenty of NSPs away from nebulae too.
 
Thanks for these clarification, this is my first exploration trip and I'm learning everything on the go :) I tried to find everything myself but for those last entries, I start to lose hope :LOL:

You'll be the first to know if I find a new spot :)
 
Did a minor update to this. Other than some clean-ups, the new stuff is about the peduncle trees in Hawking's Gap and Temple, now that they are fixed, and also mentioning rhizome pods in Tenebrae as being quite frequent because they are all over the region as well.
 
Is this the first 'new' discovery of 3306? (Sorry, I should probably know :( )

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Edit: Mare Somnia, since they#re were already found in Acheron a while back
 
Not really, no: some previously unknown anomaly variants were also discovered this year. And unfortunately, it has been much longer since something entirely new was last discovered.
Still, thanks for the heads-up! Updated the relevant sheet with it.
 
Not really, no: some previously unknown anomaly variants were also discovered this year. And unfortunately, it has been much longer since something entirely new was last discovered.
Still, thanks for the heads-up! Updated the relevant sheet with it.
(y) I assumed there would have been more stuff found, but wasn't willing to trawl the in-game code to find it. More ammo to fire at people when they say there is 'nothing left to find'.

Hopefully I'll get the other 2 chalice variants soon in this area, they should be nearby ...
 
Prompted by the recent CG, I updated the guide at its end, with more detail on harvesting samples. Some other minor additions as well.
 
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