Max Boost Speed

Jigster · Jun 22, 2015

Been having great fun playing cat and mouse with an Imp Clipper or two whilst delivering much needed Federal Aid. Only one Clipper has been able to keep up with me (just) but his missiles didn't reach me in time. Anyway it got me wondering. What's the highest boost speed you've gotten out of a ship?

Mine is 464 from a trusty old Cobra.

DaveL · Jun 22, 2015

cobra is the fastest...
then its clipper
and then suprisingly Orca..

geoffrey.hdt · Jun 22, 2015

Jigster said:
Mine is 464 from a trusty old Cobra.

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What was the config and purpose of your Cobra?
Here is what I use to undermine/oppose...can't think of scarifying FSD range, capacity or distro (anyway, less energy pool/regen = less subsequent boosts = slower in the end):
http://edshipyard.com/#/L=702,7u57u54wt4wt01Q01Q,2-4s6Q6Q5K4s5K6k,7Re0720724xo5Pe9qm

EDIT: without cargo and running on fumes, i believe I reach around 450m/s with this.

RailBalco · Jun 22, 2015

i think 440 is my best i can do now. Its soooo funny to breach blockade to deliver some stuff. Imperial dudes always indredict me, I almost always submit, dont wait and boost away. One dude tried to keep up with me, but stayed 6km behind anyway.
Would be better for them to spread out and intredict me in seconds after I get into supercruise again. It's more probable I'll do mistakes and I will get some damage.

geoffrey.hdt · Jun 22, 2015

Yep, Cobras are so fun to fly! I own 5 of them with different configs.
I have not even tried the Diamondback Scout since it is slower for the same armor/shield and firepower, though two more utility mounts. Nobody has been able to convince me to give it a try..?

Stigbob · Jun 22, 2015

geoffrey.hdt said:
Yep, Cobrad are so fun to fly! I own 5 of them with different configs.
I have not even tried the Diamondback Scout since it is slower for the same armor/shield and firepower, though two more utility mounts. Nobody has been able to convince me to give it a try..?

The scouts really nice good hard-points and internal slots, like a souped up viper (slightly worse shields). I can get 403 out of it with military composite armour and an a-fit bounty hunting load-out, I'm just looking for a station where I can flog the armour and try a low weight speedy version.

Its really good fun, perfect little mission runner/hunter.

GammaZ · Jun 23, 2015

This illustrates the problem of cobra very well, relatively heavy ship with relatively small thrusters, to get maximum possible speed you need those 1/2 of optimal mass magick number, 210T in case of A4 thrusters. It means that you can get it only with lightweight configuration, without weapons, shields and cargo.

Cryptex · Jun 23, 2015

Cobra is only faster than a Clipper with a very stripped down config. Careful not to take a scratch

Even a sneeze could destroy you, assuming it can catch you though.

geoffrey.hdt · Jun 23, 2015

I have been interdicted many times by Clippers (including Bangfish) and even in a shieldless Cobra, only got a few scratches.
Keep in mind that you can also use chaff at the beginning, and silent running in case yours shield drops.

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GammaZ said:
This illustrates the problem of cobra very well, relatively heavy ship with relatively small thrusters, to get maximum possible speed you need those 1/2 of optimal mass magick number, 210T in case of A4 thrusters. It means that you can get it only with lightweight configuration, without weapons, shields and cargo.

Lightweight alloy is fine: don't lose your shield or get the hell out ;-)
Weapons weight in total 10tons... See my configuration above, I reach 450m/s with an empty tank.

Jigster · Jun 23, 2015

geoffrey.hdt said:
What was the config and purpose of your Cobra?

That 464m/s config was just to see how fast I could get it to go.

The one I use for running blockades has a small shield and more fuel. It gets between 440 and 460m/s depending upon cargo.

Morbad · Jun 23, 2015

Fastest I've ever seen is ~465 in a completely stripped down Cobra. My lightest useful trade Cobra can hit 462, without cargo.

Clipper peaks at 441 m/s (that's it actual cap, removing more weight won't make it go faster), but it loses speed more slowly and can boost slightly more often than the Cobra, so Cobra typically have difficulty escaping a fast Clipper without a head start. Clipper can also reach it's peak speed in a fully armed combat config.

Stigbob · Jun 23, 2015

I've just done some speed tests with a diamondback scout :

Pips to engines	Max throttle or peak boost	A-fit fully armed and armoured 282 T	A-fit fully armed no armour 256 T	Lightweight fit armed no armour 248 T	Speed fit unarmed light shields 209 T
2	Throttle	245	250	252	261
4	Boost	341	348	351	363
2	Throttle	305	311	313	325
4	Boost	409	417	420	430

Conclusion, worry about clippers.

Jigster · Jun 23, 2015

Stigbob said:
I've just done some speed tests with a diamondback scout
Conclusion, worry about clippers.

Good job that man!

This is one reason I switched from a Scout to a Cobra. A clipper got me down to ~25% hull before I finally escaped. With the nippier Cobra the most they've got me down to is ~90%.

Stigbob · Jun 23, 2015

Jigster said:
Good job that man!

This is one reason I switched from a Scout to a Cobra. A clipper got me down to ~25% hull before I finally escaped. With the nippier Cobra the most they've got me down to is ~90%.

Yep, if the cobra had a centered chair and hardpoints that covered above and below the midline it would be my favorite ship. I'll just have to fly wiggly and spam chaff if chased by a clipper in my DBS.

RailBalco · Jun 23, 2015

Stigbob said:
Yep, if the cobra had a centered chair and hardpoints that covered above and below the midline it would be my favorite ship. I'll just have to fly wiggly and spam chaff if chased by a clipper in my DBS.

thats kinda disadvantage, otherwise that ship is the beast. Using it for exploring, bounty hunting, CZs, fortification hauling and casual rare commodities trading when I want to move from system to system. No need for other ship so far...

Stigbob · Jun 23, 2015

RailBalco said:
thats kinda disadvantage, otherwise that ship is the beast. Using it for exploring, bounty hunting, CZs, fortification hauling and casual rare commodities trading when I want to move from system to system. No need for other ship so far...

Yeah the DBS has definitely won me over, and it looks like the mutant offspring of an attack helicopter and an insect. It needs a yellow and black "hornet" skin.

geoffrey.hdt · Jun 23, 2015

Stigbob said:
Yeah the DBS has definitely won me over, and it looks like the mutant offspring of an attack helicopter and an insect. It needs a yellow and black "hornet" skin.

So, to summarize, you prefer to fly the DBS for its harpoints placement, its two additional utility mount and its look*, right?
I believe I will stick to the Cobra. I had so much fun yesterday undermining Hudson while a wing of 2 Clippers, a FdL and python tried to interdict me. They could simply do nothing while I took their Federal Supply ships one by one

*: I can understand that, I did love my dropship for its look

Stigbob · Jun 23, 2015

geoffrey.hdt said:
So, to summarize, you prefer to fly the DBS for its harpoints placement, its two additional utility mount and its look*, right?
I believe I will stick to the Cobra. I had so much fun yesterday undermining Hudson while a wing of 2 Clippers, a FdL and python tried to interdict me. They could simply do nothing while I took their Federal Supply ships one by one

*: I can understand that, I did love my dropship for its look

Pretty much, the central seat position is more important than the external look for me, but the hard-points are the deal maker. They fit well with my fighting style, I find the cobra's are too widely spaced.