Who says Lavian Brandy is alcoholic?Serious question, it's a ratings thing isn't it? Or is alcohol permitted in PEGI whatever Eis?
melee damage = kill damage?
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Sorry, Odyssey is designed to make us all a bunch of murderers (at least if you want to upgrade/engineer anything)
Ironically Fortnite is PEGI 12, and you do kill helpless (on their knees) people (however there's no corpse left).
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It's because of the PEGI rating. Look up the difference between PEGI 16 and 18, and one of the items mentioned for the latter is that you can attack knocked-out/stunned characters which is forbidden in PEGI 16.
So, if you stun a character and are then able to drop a grenade on their sleeping form, that's PEGI 18 unless you give that dozing NPC some kind of invulnerability and a mouse-over that says 'still sleeping' even thought the blast sent them flying three suburbs away.
Are PEGI ratings changeable after the fact? Or once a game is released, are you locked into the rating limitations of the base game?
ED is surprisingly PEGI 7 (and that's an issue for airless planets and the full release)
haha,
I believe what you are saying but this all sounds like completely ridiculous PEGI requirements to me.
Who thinks up such nonsense?
I am currently a judge on a murder trial, the victim (a drug dealer) was shot twice in the back of the head by a pistol and I can tell you the pictures of the victim after the incident look creepy. Both shots were fatal.
The pictures are even hard for adults to watch them.
PEGI tries to sugarcoat the reality.
okay so here's a test
I want you to put a watermelon on a table and then punch it as hard as you can.
Once you're done with that, get another watermelon and shoot it with a gun.
Then compare which of the two does more damage to the watermelon.
I believe a trip to Hutton Orbital can induce an unconscious state.
I wonder what PEGI rating would be Tom and Jerry...
I remember they used to beat each other to the pulp
Or Daffy Duck getting shot in the face
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjcJgHvkRg&list=PLAE3187FE93C3D3D6
I remember they used to beat each other to the pulp
Or Daffy Duck getting shot in the face
Compared to a human head:
Depending on the vilocity of the bullet it gives totally different results.
Depending on the speed of the bullet (the weight of the bullet is not so important) you can only get one entry hole, one entry hole and larger exit hole, or a burst head.
This about PEGI...
btw, i remembered that i was told that making someone unconscious by hitting him, would most likely kill him rather than not.
Maybe they just gone for the realistic approach.
I know constraint makes the art, but the logical implications of credible physical interactions, especially where any form of personal combat is being depicted, do not lend themselves well to the arbitrary restrictions of our for-profit industry censors.
I'm not sure what's the more surrealistic approach...the game feeling like a PG-13 RoboCop flick where we just assume everyone that falls over after being shot at is a clean kill, or
something reminiscent of an episode of Luke Cage where gratuitous violence involving blunt force trauma is, at least as absurdly, assumed to never be unintentionally fatal.
They went for the PEGI 16 approach, which is what they can sell. Being able to kill 'defenseless' people would push it into PEGI 18 territory, which is why NPCs cannot be knocked unconcious and why every NPC is always armed.
The realistic approach would be where the effects of any given wound were generally unpredictable, unless it was clearly incompatible with life (and assuming that someone will stop being a threat before such damage is done to them is extremely risky). Quickly and reliably disabling someone should be a feat of some difficulty, even if mortally wounding them is not. Reliable non-lethal takedowns, outside of cases of submission, should be phenomenally difficult. It's far easier and safer to kill, which is why real-world violent offenders who do not surrender frequently wind up dead, even if the intent was to take them alive.
A setting where a significant fraction of personal combat takes place in a near vacuum--with most potential hostiles encountered wearing pressure suits--would complicate non-lethal takedowns even more. It's that much more difficult to deliver an incapacitating attack and that much easier to inflict damage that would lead to a fatality; any plausible spacesuit is simultaneously going to be a relatively fragile piece of lifesupport equipment and provide quite a bit of protection against trauma.
I'm not sure what's the more surrealistic approach...the game feeling like a PG-13 RoboCop flick where we just assume everyone that falls over after being shot at is a clean kill, or
something reminiscent of an episode of Luke Cage where gratuitous violence involving blunt force trauma is, at least as absurdly, assumed to never be unintentionally fatal.
They went for the PEGI 16 approach, which is what they can sell. Being able to kill 'defenseless' people would push it into PEGI 18 territory, which is why NPCs cannot be knocked unconcious and why every NPC is always armed.
The realistic approach would be where the effects of any given wound were generally unpredictable, unless it was clearly incompatible with life (and assuming that someone will stop being a threat before such damage is done to them is extremely risky). Quickly and reliably disabling someone should be a feat of some difficulty, even if mortally wounding them is not. Reliable non-lethal takedowns, outside of cases of submission, should be phenomenally difficult. It's far easier and safer to kill, which is why real-world violent offenders who do not surrender frequently wind up dead, even if the intent was to take them alive.
A setting where a significant fraction of personal combat takes place in a near vacuum--with most potential hostiles encountered wearing pressure suits--would complicate non-lethal takedowns even more. It's that much more difficult to deliver an incapacitating attack and that much easier to inflict damage that would lead to a fatality; any plausible spacesuit is simultaneously going to be a relatively fragile piece of lifesupport equipment and provide quite a bit of protection against trauma.
This is the funniest part to me, as I would bet the overwhelming majority of Elite players are at least over 18 if not a fair bit older. I don't think an increase in PEGI rating would negatively affect sales at all.
What is even funnier is ED vanilla/Horizons being PEGI 7
.... (which makes sharing airless planets between horizons and odyssey players an issue... maybe when all those 7 years old turn 16...)Maybe they could sell for 1 cent an Horizons+ DLC which is just Horizons but PEGI 16, and enable it to share airless planets (i mean when Odyssey is full released and Horizons client is "upgraded" to play with Odyssey players where allowed).What is even funnier is ED vanilla/Horizons being PEGI 7