miner problem

ok so, ive spent alt of time mining and came up with zero, nothing. this is becoming frustrating to the point where I don't think I want to play this game any longer, so what am I doing wrong? I have everything I need, ive watched a few youtube tutorials, the one the guy didn't even have a pulse wave as every rock he went to had painite! ive been to 3 different pristine rings, even went off on my own and found a metallic ring around a gas planet, all did was use up all my prospector limpets, it seemed like every damn rock had about the same worthless composition. scanned the rings as well, went to the hotspots. so what am I missing? I even confirmed something, I first lasered a rock then fired a limpet at it and the composition was exact same as what I peeled off before scanning it. I do like this game but the mining aspect is what really attracts me, how do I solve this issue? one thing I saw which I cant figure out is seeing if the ring im at is depleted, something about the reserves level. Ive also scanned the planets and confirmed what the ring has but I don't see where it indicates the level of resources still in the ring, perhaps im at farmed out places? does the game randomly generate resources at sites or are they solid and don't change? as well in the tutorials ive seen theres nothing but conflicting info, one says go after bright yellow pulse wave scanned rocks, others say don't, one said small round rocks one said odd shaped.
 
Ok. First, after reading your post, it appears you are combining terms from the 2 different kinds of mining, which are Core Mining and Laser Mining. It is unclear which you are attempting. Each method is different and uses different equipment. Which kind of mining are you interested in?
 
I don't know exactly what your problem is.

Try these videos for Painite.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDBlbS1AXpE


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0vj6agJpQ


You don't need a "Pulse Wave Scanner" for Painite mining and you do need a Mining Laser, Prospector Controller + Limpets an Collector Controller + Limpets

Try this video for Deep Core Mining for Void Opals and Low Temparture Diamonds

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIfZu1clbRg


You DO need a "Pulse Wave Scanner" for Void Opal and LTD mining and a Siesmic Charge Launcher, Prospector Controller + Limpets an Collector Controller + Limpets.

Hotspots respawn when you log out and log back in. If you do logout at a hotspot and log in again the pirate will show up again. Just out run him.

Here is a good guide to the different types of mining and what asteroids to look for.

so places replenish? I read somewhere that areas deplete, im playing horizons not the original
 
so the pulse wave does not help in finding surface deposits? had a feeling that was the case.
Pulse wave is for core mining and (sub) surface deposits. For surface deposits you need a abrasion blaster to mine the mats. You need a missile for sub surface deposits, but never done it myself.

I tend to think you are looking into double Painite mining. Painite is only profitable over void opal core mining when you use a big ship, with at least 2 (class 5) collector limpet controllers and a class 3A prospector limpet controller. For the last one the A is the important part. No A means less yield == less money. You go to place in a ring where 2 Painite hot spots overlap each other and start prospecting roids with 40%+ Painite. Not every roid will be 40%+, far from it, but you should be able to find one once in every 2-5 minutes? Fire one prospector, and target it, than fire the next one until you find your roid. Then launch 6 collectors and start lasering, rinse repeat.

If you want to know the locations of the overlapping hot spots, use http://edtools.ddns.net/miner
Hang in there, its not that hard if you sorted out the amount of info.

so places replenish? I read somewhere that areas deplete, im playing horizons not the original
No one knows exactly. I never succeeded in depleting 2 overlapping Painite hot spots.
 
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One more thing, since you are a 'new' player. Double painite mining works if you already have money to buy a big ship and all the needed equipment. I would not advice to go that route to a new player. The easiest way to get money as a new player in mining is deep core mining, you can use a Cobra for that and make money.

Shoot me a PM if you want to wing up in game. You'll be on your way in no time.
 
so places replenish? I read somewhere that areas deplete
When laser mining, rocks you have shot will be depleted for you for two hours, then replenish. (Other players will be able to mine the same rocks themselves, and you can mine ones that other players have)

When core mining, rocks you explode will be exploded for everyone, and vice versa. They will stay gone for days. Unless you're in a hotspot which is both small and very popular, or mining right at the centre of the hotspot, you are unlikely to notice this.

The reserves level of systems varies between Pristine (best) and Depleted (worst). However, this does not change on timescales observable in normal gameplay - if Frontier do a sequel set 50 years later they'll reduce a bunch of them then, but otherwise they're static.
 
The reserves level of systems varies between Pristine (best) and Depleted (worst). However, this does not change on timescales observable in normal gameplay - if Frontier do a sequel set 50 years later they'll reduce a bunch of them then, but otherwise they're static.
I guess in Elite V, Borann and Delkar won't have any asteroids any more :LOL:
 
ok so, ive spent alt of time mining and came up with zero, nothing. this is becoming frustrating to the point where I don't think I want to play this game any longer, so what am I doing wrong? I have everything I need, ive watched a few youtube tutorials, the one the guy didn't even have a pulse wave as every rock he went to had painite! ive been to 3 different pristine rings, even went off on my own and found a metallic ring around a gas planet, all did was use up all my prospector limpets, it seemed like every damn rock had about the same worthless composition. scanned the rings as well, went to the hotspots. so what am I missing? I even confirmed something, I first lasered a rock then fired a limpet at it and the composition was exact same as what I peeled off before scanning it. I do like this game but the mining aspect is what really attracts me, how do I solve this issue? one thing I saw which I cant figure out is seeing if the ring im at is depleted, something about the reserves level. Ive also scanned the planets and confirmed what the ring has but I don't see where it indicates the level of resources still in the ring, perhaps im at farmed out places? does the game randomly generate resources at sites or are they solid and don't change? as well in the tutorials ive seen theres nothing but conflicting info, one says go after bright yellow pulse wave scanned rocks, others say don't, one said small round rocks one said odd shaped.
In your other thread, you told us you only left Noob space on Friday, and now you are at the point where you don't want to play any longer? You've been given a ton of advice about mining already, but aren't listening to it ...... watch the videos that Cmdr Maylor Rom has posted above. And follow their example.

You are trying to run before you can walk, and this game punishes you when you try to do that. Start in smaller ships, work up to bigger ones for bigger profit. But there is no endgame, and hence no endgame ship to fly around in. So take your time. :)
 
In your other thread, you told us you only left Noob space on Friday, and now you are at the point where you don't want to play any longer? You've been given a ton of advice about mining already, but aren't listening to it ...... watch the videos that Cmdr Maylor Rom has posted above. And follow their example.

You are trying to run before you can walk, and this game punishes you when you try to do that. Start in smaller ships, work up to bigger ones for bigger profit. But there is no endgame, and hence no endgame ship to fly around in. So take your time. :)
ya I know, not going to give up quite yet but was frustrated as it seems I was going about things wrong.
 
When laser mining, rocks you have shoot will be depleted for you for two hours, then replenish. (Other players will be able to mine the same rocks themselves, and you can mine ones that other players have)

When core mining, rocks you explode will be exploded for everyone, and vice versa. They will stay gone for days. Unless you're in a hotspot which is both small and very popular, or mining right at the centre of the hotspot, you are unlikely to notice this.

The reserves level of systems varies between Pristine (best) and Depleted (worst). However, this does not change on timescales observable in normal gameplay - if Frontier do a sequel set 50 years later they'll reduce a bunch of them then, but otherwise they're static.
ok that is valuable to me, I wasn't sure if once a system was mined it was done, makes sense to not be as the game would get pretty lame pretty quick.
 
ok that is valuable to me, I wasn't sure if once a system was mined it was done, makes sense to not be as the game would get pretty lame pretty quick.
Don't worry, planets are like... really big. Those rings are absolutely massive.

There are some hurdles to get over before mining really works, but it's a relaxing profession. Laser mining is much easier and more reliable. Core mining is more difficult and requires a lot more attention, but is rewarding.

Start with laser mining, it will be a good way to work your way up toward a Medium ship, which can comfortably do either for longer. My Python handles Core Mining for me - the biggest ships aren't exactly the best.
 
thanks, I got a bit rage-e so to say, I was going about it wrong, thought the pulse wave was needed to find the good stuff. question though, when viewing the plants moons and rings etc, where does it indicate of its pristine or other? cant seem to see that when I view them
 
thanks, I got a bit rage-e so to say, I was going about it wrong, thought the pulse wave was needed to find the good stuff. question though, when viewing the plants moons and rings etc, where does it indicate of its pristine or other? cant seem to see that when I view them
It's not under the rings, it's under the planetary description, in the System Map. Even if there's no rings, it can list reserves.
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You also don't need Prospector Limpets to laser mine, but they do increase the output of the asteroid you're mining, so you get more out of them (when laser mining).

Don't forget http://edtools.ddns.net/miner to find easy spots early on; after you get some experience mining, you'll find a spot all your own that you like.
 
ok ive looked at this panel and none of that shows, im playing horizons, so perhaps that info is not in horizons? not sure im going to jump in soon and do some looking, maybe im missing something.
 
ok ive looked at this panel and none of that shows, im playing horizons, so perhaps that info is not in horizons? not sure im going to jump in soon and do some looking, maybe im missing something.
It may not show if you have not scanned the system. I honestly can't remember, it's so second nature. You can scan a populated system by jumping in to the Nav Beacon and scanning it (point your ship at it and target it).

Then the System Map will show all the details of rings, etc. in its left hand frame.
 
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