Newcomer / Intro Mining Equipment

[hawknerd]

I am trying to get all the mods that I need for mining for my carrier so I can mine SSD Laser and Deep Core.
I have never done deep core or SSD or used an abrasion blaster.

I know I will need :
1 x pulse wave analyser
1 x seismic charge launcher
1 x abrasion blaster
2 x sub surface displacement missile

But what sizes? I am at a station with my annie to get all of them but cant work out what I will need. I intend to modify my mining python each time I want to equip for deep core/laser/ssd. But is there an optimal fit out for my python? Can I fit it so it will do all three any time I want?

 

[Chris Simon]

You don't technically need SSDMs for core mining. Those are for kind of "third" type of mining - you shoot them into the suitable spots, play a "minigame" and they throw out chunks of stuff. I personally don't bother because they are kind of pain to use and they yield the same stuff as normal laser mining.

If you're after the cores, you only need seismic charges and abrasion blaster(s).
The size kind of doesn't matter, but why not put the larger ones there. The only thing I'd recommend is putting the seismic launcher on the centre point hardpoint, because if it's too off-centre, it's really hard to use. One of the reasons why T9 sucks as a core miner.

 

[hawknerd]

and should I use turret or fixed for all of them?

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

I intend to modify my mining python each time I want to equip for deep core/laser/ssd.

You don’t really need to modify it unless you are really min-maxing. This is my SSD Python build:

EDSY

EDSY is a ship outfitting tool for Elite Dangerous

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It is also perfectly fine to do laser and core mining in (for a dedicated laser miner I would have another mining laser and probably switch around the optionsl internals a bit)

 

[hawknerd]

What about fixed or turrets?

 

[Chris Simon]

What about fixed or turrets?

If you are mining alone, fixed. If you plan to use a friend in multicrew, turrets.

 

[hawknerd]

I only seem to get 73 seismic charges? Does that mean that I get 18 roids at 4 charges per roid and that is it? Or can I get more?

 

[Para Handy]

I only seem to get 73 seismic charges? Does that mean that I get 18 roids at 4 charges per roid and that is it? Or can I get more?

1. You can synthesize ammo for them?

2. Fit a second SCL.

 

[hawknerd]

2. Fit a second SCL.

I just got back from buying the things I thought I needed. So I only have one SCL for now. Is it normal to have more than one?

 

[Para Handy]

I just got back from buying the things I thought I needed. So I only have one SCL for now. Is it normal to have more than one?

I have never fitted a second one. I only ever run low on seismic charges when I have forgotten to restock. I can fill up a python without using all the ammo.

 

[withnail67]

You don't technically need SSDMs for core mining. Those are for kind of "third" type of mining - you shoot them into the suitable spots, play a "minigame" and they throw out chunks of stuff. I personally don't bother because they are kind of pain to use and they yield the same stuff as normal laser mining.

Although they yield the same ore as you get from laser mining, they do produce much larger chunks, so you need fewer per tonne of refined commodity.

That said, if the astroid is spinning at any real speed, it's rarely worth the effort/frustration!

 

[Chris Simon]

Although they yield the same ore as you get from laser mining, they do produce much larger chunks, so you need fewer per tonne of refined commodity.

That said, if the astroid is spinning at any real speed, it's rarely worth the effort/frustration!

Yeah, exactly. My experience is that although when you find a good roid, the reward is good. But you spend time looking for that good roid AND have to play the finnicky minigame. In the same amoung of time, you can probably lazor-mine two or three normal asteroids and end up with a similar amount of stuff.

That being said, I know people who specifically enjoy mining with SSDMs, in which case they are a valid alternative to laser mining.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

I have never ever failed to completely fill a Python due to lack of seismic charges or SSDMs and I don’t fit more than one (medium size) of either. The few failures to fill up completely that I have had have been down to poor limpet management and bad luck towards the end of a run.

 

[withnail67]

Yeah, exactly. My experience is that although when you find a good roid, the reward is good. But you spend time looking for that good roid AND have to play the finnicky minigame. In the same amoung of time, you can probably lazor-mine two or three normal asteroids and end up with a similar amount of stuff.

According to the Fandom Wiki ;
"Ores mined with (subsurface) Displacement Missiles will always fill between 75% to 80% of a Refinery bin. Neither deposit density nor size of the target zone during mining make an appreciable difference in the amount of ore produced."

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

I am trying to get all the mods that I need for mining for my carrier so I can mine SSD Laser and Deep Core.
I have never done deep core or SSD or used an abrasion blaster.

I know I will need :
1 x pulse wave analyser
1 x seismic charge launcher
1 x abrasion blaster
2 x sub surface displacement missile

But what sizes? I am at a station with my annie to get all of them but cant work out what I will need. I intend to modify my mining python each time I want to equip for deep core/laser/ssd. But is there an optimal fit out for my python? Can I fit it so it will do all three any time I want?

Stating the bleeding obvs but you didn't specifically say: 2 mining lasers, size M.

 

[hawknerd]

Stating the bleeding obvs but you didn't specifically say: 2 mining lasers, size M.

Sorry you are quite right. I have 3 X 2D mining lasers fitted already. I am ok with laser mining it is the adjustment to deep core and ssd where I am hazy.

 

[aRJay]

It helps to have the core mining tools close to the centre line of your ship as it makes aiming easier.

With laser mining what the target rock is doing has no effect on anything other than collector limpet usage, the core mining tools are slow so if the rock is spinning or tumbling you end up chasing your target point this can get tricky so you want good thrusters fitted to ensure your Python is agile enough.

 

[Para Handy]

Sorry you are quite right. I have 3 X 2D mining lasers fitted already. I am ok with laser mining it is the adjustment to deep core and ssd where I am hazy.

Since you only have 5 hardpoints available on your Python then you will have to either store one of those or decide not to take SSDM.

 

[CMDR Yates]

According to the Fandom Wiki ;
"Ores mined with (subsurface) Displacement Missiles will always fill between 75% to 80% of a Refinery bin. Neither deposit density nor size of the target zone during mining make an appreciable difference in the amount of ore produced."

I think this is outdated info. Thinner and deeper target zones almost certainly produce more chunks on average since the Fleet Carriers update (not higher ore percentage right enough, but more chunks).

The wiki article doesn't mention multiple chunks being released (added with FC update), and it gives the old percentage increments for as you deplete the fissure.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Since you only have 5 hardpoints available on your Python then you will have to either store one of those or decide not to take SSDM.

^ this

I find two lasers is quite sufficient unless you have a mental amount of collectors on the go collecting at a rapid rate.

Personally, I have six limpets collecting from two lasers - if you are close to the rock (but not so your limpets commit seppuku on their return), you can deplete and collect pretty quickly.