mining how do you tell ice from metalic ring

Snowdog

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I have not mined in a while and tried my python today but how do you tell ice from metallic ring?

The ice rings seem to be a little low on return if you calculate $/hr rate so I think I will try metallic rings and see how that is but how do (or where do I look) so I know which is which? I want to navigate to the correct spot. Does my question makes sense?

thanks for any help
 

GluttonyFang

GluttonyFang
Use the system map, it'll show you the rings around a planet and will tell you whether it is metal/rock/ice, then it list the ring in alphabetical order.

For example, ring A is always the one closest to the planet, and B is the second closest, and so on.
 

JetJaguar

JetJaguar
Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but I have a related question, I think it would fit here.

I was just mining outside the "bubble", going to uninhabited systems and using my Advanced Discovery scanner to reveal the system. Problem is that, in these newly discovers systems, there seems to be no way to tell if a ring is made of Ice/Rock or Metal or what its reserves (Metallic/metal rich etc) are. All you can see is that the System is Pristine (in system Info) and how big the rings are (and other basic astronomical stuff iirc).

Even after I scan the Gas Giant and actually enter the ring and do some mining this info never seems to show up. Any ideas why that is or how you get this info?
 

GluttonyFang

GluttonyFang
JetJaguar said:
Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but I have a related question, I think it would fit here.

I was just mining outside the "bubble", going to uninhabited systems and using my Advanced Discovery scanner to reveal the system. Problem is that, in these newly discovers systems, there seems to be no way to tell if a ring is made of Ice/Rock or Metal or what its reserves (Metallic/metal rich etc) are. All you can see is that the System is Pristine (in system Info) and how big the rings are (and other basic astronomical stuff iirc).

Even after I scan the Gas Giant and actually enter the ring and do some mining this info never seems to show up. Any ideas why that is or how you get this info?
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I think this is where the prospecting aspect of exploration comes in.

The visual of metal, rocky, and icy rings are different, and can be distinguished by looking at them up close without entering them.
 

goemon

goemon
JetJaguar said:
Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but I have a related question, I think it would fit here.

I was just mining outside the "bubble", going to uninhabited systems and using my Advanced Discovery scanner to reveal the system. Problem is that, in these newly discovers systems, there seems to be no way to tell if a ring is made of Ice/Rock or Metal or what its reserves (Metallic/metal rich etc) are. All you can see is that the System is Pristine (in system Info) and how big the rings are (and other basic astronomical stuff iirc).

Even after I scan the Gas Giant and actually enter the ring and do some mining this info never seems to show up. Any ideas why that is or how you get this info?
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JetJaguar said:
I have advanced Discovery scanner, is that enough?
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a detailed surface scanner will reveal ring types.
 

Pirate Hell

Pirate Hell
what if you don't have a detailed surface scanner or room, there are light and dark blue, pinky, light and dark brown etc, closer to planet or outer rings, is there a color associated with metallic?
 

mugendo

mugendo
When mining it is important to know that Metal rich, and Metallic are not the same for mining, Below is a rough percentage guide I use for mining.....


Metal Rich:
Indite - 26%
Gold - 18%
Bertrandite - 11%
Platinum - 6%
Metallic:
Gallite - 24%
Indite - 22%
Palladium - 16%
Painite - 8%
 

Limoncello Lizard

Limoncello Lizard
mugendo said:
When mining it is important to know that Metal rich, and Metallic are not the same for mining, Below is a rough percentage guide I use for mining.....


Metal Rich:
Indite - 26%
Gold - 18%
Bertrandite - 11%
Platinum - 6%
Metallic:
Gallite - 24%
Indite - 22%
Palladium - 16%
Painite - 8%
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Can you confirm that you have actually found painite in a metal-rich ring?

I've done quite a bit of mining in metal-rich since 2.1. It used to be the best source of materials, until it was recently nerfed. I haven't found painite at all - actually not since 1.3. But I know how RNG can work. Just because I haven't seen it, doesn't mean it's not there.
 

Odan Brota

Odan Brota
Limoncello Lizard said:
Can you confirm that you have actually found painite in a metal-rich ring?

I've done quite a bit of mining in metal-rich since 2.1. It used to be the best source of materials, until it was recently nerfed. I haven't found painite at all - actually not since 1.3. But I know how RNG can work. Just because I haven't seen it, doesn't mean it's not there.
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I've only personally found Painite in a metallic ring with pristine reserves. I'll PM you my "home base" if you want, contains pristine metallic rings as well as pristine ice rings, is inside the bubble, and has a station with large pads.
 

Limoncello Lizard

Limoncello Lizard
Pirate Hell said:
what if you don't have a detailed surface scanner or room, there are light and dark blue, pinky, light and dark brown etc, closer to planet or outer rings, is there a color associated with metallic?
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Ice rings are always white and blue. Rocky are usually brownish. Metal-rich usually grey. Metallic are either dark grey or silver.

If you aren't sure, it's a fairly safe bet that the inner set of rings (A) is the metallic. There is only one exception to this rule that I know of - Tiraon planet 2, where the outer ring is metallic.

There are several pristine metallics that only have the one ring, so you can't get the wrong one. There are a very few double pristine metallics, but the only ones I know of are outside the bubble.

To find a pristien metallic near you use ED Utilities
 

Limoncello Lizard

Limoncello Lizard
Odan Brota said:
I've only personally found Painite in a metallic ring with pristine reserves. I'll PM you my "home base" if you want, contains pristine metallic rings as well as pristine ice rings, is inside the bubble, and has a station with large pads.
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You can find painite in a depleted metallic ring, just not in quantities worth mining.

I was doing some mining in the rings of Saturn a couple of nights ago. It's a depleted ice ring. I found ice diamonds there, but they were in small amounts. I didn't have a refinery, as I was mining for materials. Found a good amount of Vanadium, which made the trip worth it.

Pic from same night, though this was Jupiter:
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