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Newcomer / Intro Mining missions - mine it or buy it?
- Thread starter jpjeffrey
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Well according to a poster on this forum (cannot remember who) it is even possible to do this without leaving the station (i.e. the commodities market sells said ore) - so guessing the answer to your question is "Yes!"
Not ever tried it personally though.
A few mining commodities can only be mined, received as a reward for a mining mission or scavenged from surface points of interest.
Everything else can be bought from a market (cobalt, water, ...).
edit: and yes, sometimes even at the station you got the mission from. You won't even have to launch to complete it.
Everything else can be bought from a market (cobalt, water, ...).
edit: and yes, sometimes even at the station you got the mission from. You won't even have to launch to complete it.
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Wait... You mean there's no difference between a "Source & Return" and a "Mine [X] ore" mission? You can just buy the ore and fulfill the mission? :S
Perhaps I need to be more specific with my question....
If the mission says MINE XXX commodity (and it has the 'Rocks' icon) then according to this reply it seems I need to actually go and mine the commodity myself... is this correct?
- by comparison, if the mission says SOURCE XXX commodity (and it has the '2 Arrows' icon) then I can just buy it from a market
No.
Only mining CGs seem to currently enforce the hidden "mined" tag on cargo (if that mined material leaves your cargo hatch it will lose that tag and not count towards the CG anymore).
If you can source the material in another fashion, you can submit it for the mission. Be it from surface scavenging, another mission (reward) or the commodity market (not all being available for every mining mission commodity).
No, it isn't correct. You can buy the goods and deliver them for the mission. You can even deliver goods that you have acquired as mission rewards.
It think this is an oversight by FD, possibly even a bug. The game is capable of knowing wheter you have mined a commodity or not, as this happens with mining CGs.
It's awful though. Especially for the CGs. Smaller ships can't help out without a refinery and get paid in mined material they can submit. And pirates can't insert themselves to get in on the share.
I wish this to be lifted generally.
When the material to be supplied is one that can only be obtained by mining or mission rewards (such as osmium), I completely agree with you. However, when the commodity that is required can be purchased (e.g. gold or paladium), it needs the mined flag otherwise there is no point in it being a mining CG..
But it makes no sense requesting that to be mined in the first place. Mining missions should probably just be restricted to material you cannot obtain in the port you are taking them. Sourcing them from other activities than mining seems like an okay/smart solution to me. Why block that with an artificial invisible mining tag on the cargo (which you can lose by dropping and picking it back up D: )?
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To provide a goal for commanders whose chosen profession is mining, remember CGs are a bit artificial anyway, also it is a way of discouraging pirates as they can't just steal their way to the top likewise it prevents the Pay to Win situation.
Missions are a different matter in my view and should be less picky about how you obtain what they require.
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You mean pay to get paid (Osmium has to be mined either way and someone trying to buy it from other miners should be prepared to pay up a significant amount - scaling to potential payouts)?
And I wouldn't mind giving pirates the chance to steal Osmium and get in on the rewards. Would be less disruptive to the CG than outright popping miners.
I'm boosting other miners by searching and mining Osmium, yet I have to always refuse when happy miners offer to compensate me with Osmium - and educate them that it won't count the moment it leaves their hatch.
I do not think it is a oversight, but just luck. If I mine Water for example and I go to a station that accidently is needing water, I am lucky. Just in regular business. On the other hand, If I mine 200 tons of Water and the station does not need it, I have bad luck... Elite is just like real business
You are missing the point. Mined water counting for a mission was never in question, nor is mined water counting for a "fetch me some water" mission, since it's far harder to mine it than buy. What is being discussed is water purchased from a market counting towards a mission that says "Go mine some water". It should be no different to a pirating missino that says "go steal some water", if you buy or mine it, the water won't count as it has to be stolen.
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Piracy missions are often ridiculous too. Unless you have a specific target like an assassination and you could argue that you are stealing unique commodities (clothes or whatever), it doesn't make much sense. Or it's a commodity where pirating is the faster option to mining (diamonds for example) and the mission does at least lead you to a good location for that.
Stealing and mining water is both rather pointless. I'm okay with factions being dense and requesting it like that (due to their nature), but I'm not okay with them sniffing the cargo and refusing a different source (unless you get a cool notification/story for it).
Hi all
Yes, I can confirm that you can complete the 'Mining' mission (ie the ones on the Mission Board with the 'ROCKS' icon) by buying the requisite commodity from a market and returning to cash it in.
A little footnote: when you purchase the commodity at a commodity market, you DON'T get that little reassuring message from the ship's computer (ie 'Mission Objective Completed')
Yes, I can confirm that you can complete the 'Mining' mission (ie the ones on the Mission Board with the 'ROCKS' icon) by buying the requisite commodity from a market and returning to cash it in.
A little footnote: when you purchase the commodity at a commodity market, you DON'T get that little reassuring message from the ship's computer (ie 'Mission Objective Completed')