Newcomer / Intro Mining problems!

Cmndr pizzadof

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I have dumped every night off for 3 weeks into this game. I look for diamonds and painite hotspots, I use the edtools, all that. Travel between 250 to 400lys from one hotspot to another, dump hours and hours and hours and into mindlessly scanning and probing asteroids and haven't found a single painite or ltd asteroid. I'm 40 plus hours of just looking in the different spots. Not a single one. At this point it's not even worth it to travel 25 systems back to my orca and then jump another 19 back to robigo I want to love this game. Right now it reminds me of AOC, aesthetically gorgeous.. But leaves much to be desired in the way of function.

-Commander ed Off!
 

Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
That doesn't sound right. There's a double painite spot in Hyades Sector DB-X D1-112 - body 2 iirc.

Try DSSing that and dropping between the two closest together painite spots. Within 90 minutes, you should be picking up a load (~200) of painite and making somewhere in the region of 150mCR depending on what system you sell at.

Be aware there are carriers filling the system.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Lots of that doesnt sound right. You are doing it wrong, or describing what you are doing poorly.
The worst is that you spent 40 hours doing something you find boring. That's insanity.
 

Cmndr pizzadof

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[VR] Orodruin said:
It sounds to me as if you are doing something wrong. Without a more detailed description of your process and a link to your build it is impossible to tell where the problem is.
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I think I can show you better than I can tell you. Are you up for checking out a couple of the these hotspots with me at some point? I've got a cobra mk. III with multi crew capabilities if that's easier.
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
Cmndr pizzdof said:
I think I can show you better than I can tell you. Are you up for checking out a couple of the these hotspots with me at some point? I've got a cobra mk. III with multi crew capabilities if that's easier.
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Well, the first and easiest step is to check your ship build if you could link it on Coriolis or EDSY.
You can always throw me a friend request in-game, but I may be busy doing other things when logged in.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
BigFatPandarian said:
I am having the same problem! Did not find a single rock with Painite in a double painite ring :(
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There's no such thing as "a double painite ring".
Painite occurs in metallic rings - pristine for preference - as surface material and you can laser mine it anywhere in these rings.
It also occurs in metal-rich rings in asteroid cores. Some of those rings may have hotspots. A few of those hotspots overlap to form double (or even triple) hotspots - but hotspots only influence the likelihood of finding the new, i.e. non-laser, mineable asteroids.

So, where were you mining and what type of mining/scanning were you doing? If you're going for core mining in a hotspot, you will need a DSS (to find the hotspot), a PWA (to find the core 'roids), a seismic charge launcher (to blow up the 'roids) and an abrasion blaster (to remove the sticky remenants). On the other hand, from the above, it follows that you will never find a laser mineable Painite rock in a ring with Painite hotspots - as the hotspots are in metal rich rings, but the laser mineable Painite bearing rocks are in metallic rings.
 

BigFatPandarian

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Ashnak said:
There's no such thing as "a double painite ring".
Painite occurs in metallic rings - pristine for preference - as surface material and you can laser mine it anywhere in these rings.
It also occurs in metal-rich rings in asteroid cores. Some of those rings may have hotspots. A few of those hotspots overlap to form double (or even triple) hotspots - but hotspots only influence the likelihood of finding the new, i.e. non-laser, mineable asteroids.

So, where were you mining and what type of mining/scanning were you doing? If you're going for core mining in a hotspot, you will need a DSS (to find the hotspot), a PWA (to find the core 'roids), a seismic charge launcher (to blow up the 'roids) and an abrasion blaster (to remove the sticky remenants). On the other hand, from the above, it follows that you will never find a laser mineable Painite rock in a ring with Painite hotspots - as the hotspots are in metal rich rings, but the laser mineable Painite bearing rocks are in metallic rings.
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Thank you for your reply :D So I followed the guide put up by Down to Earth Astronomy (
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck0DU3BuO-0&t=8s
). I think he mentions that low temp diamonds are bot as worth it anymore?

I only have 40 hours in the game and an Asp Explorer. Money hasn't really been my focus until now (I want a python :D). Thus, I am trying to mine painite with 4 mining lasers, cargo/prospector limpets, refinery and a detailed surface scanner (not core mining). Again I have no idea about mining as I am still very much a noob. I mostly rely on youtube tutorials.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
BigFatPandarian said:
I only have 40 hours in the game and an Asp Explorer. Money hasn't really been my focus until now (I want a python :D). Thus, I am trying to mine painite with 4 mining lasers, cargo/prospector limpets, refinery and a detailed surface scanner (not core mining). Again I have no idea about mining as I am still very much a noob. I mostly rely on youtube tutorials.
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Please share your build as a Coriolis link.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Looks like I was wrong - you actually should be able to get improved laser mining yields from overlapping Painite hoptspots. Especially since D2EA's video was released after all the recent changes.
I also checked the other main mining info resource - the Elite Miner's reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiner...ly_painite_and_low-temperature_diamonds.29.3A .

Just to check: you were going for laser mining, and you actually were in the overlap of the Painite hotspots? Because that's the one thing I didn't see in D2EA's video.
As you approach the ring, you need to equip your DSS, then throttle down and shoot a probe at the ring(s). When the ring has been scanned, the hotspots will show up on your HUD
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That's from the old Borann hotspots - they were reconfigured with the introduction of Tritium, so this specific constellation doesn't exist any more. But you can see that there are two rings, a narrow inner ring and a wider outer ring, and a collection of hotspots in each ring.
If this were GCRV 1568 or HR 4197, the laser mineable Painite rocks would be in the smaller inner ring - the metallic ring. The outer metal-rich ring may also have Painite hotspots, but those will only carry Painite cores.
 

Razzerman

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I've had a similar experience to the OP - out in the black searching for stuff to mine; found a double painite spot and not an ounce of painite to be found, either at the centre of both hotspots, or in the overlap. Very odd. I put it down as bugged and moved on. I'll have a look later and see if I bookmarked the system.

Cheers,

Razzerman
 

aRJay

aRJay
BigFatPandarian said:
I hope I did this correctly! https://s.orbis.zone/8zR9

I was mining (not finding any) painite in the GCRV 1568 system!
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I would change that build slightly.

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I got rid of the two small mining lasers as I don’t think the Asp has a big enough distributor to handle them, now you should be able to fire longer before the distributor is emptied.
I also swapped the Super Cruise assist for a Prospector Limpet Controller and replaced the old Prospector with a Collector Limpet Controller, more collectors should speed things up.
I also changed the Power Pack for a 4A which has less mass and more output than what was there, Sensors and Life Support also upgraded to Ds to improve efficiency and reduce mass.
 

badibeat

badibeat
BigFatPandarian said:
Ahhhh okay, I understand! I was in the outer ring at GCRV 1568. I did not even notice the inner ring. No wonder I was not finding anything xD. Thank you for the help! Man I suck lol!
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No reason for self chastening - you fell to some E: D "logic":
Metal-rich rings only contain Painite cores, metallic rings are for laser mining Painite.
 
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