Mining tritium question

I've managed to get upwards of 370 tons of tritium per hour on a good day. Which is reasonable to me, given I enjoy mining anyway, but not so much the selling part.

I'd prefer it to be closer to 700-1000, though.
 
A rated prospector, plenty of collectors and 2 or 3 lasers will do 100 t/hr in a good pristine ring, SD/SSD mining with a fast agile ship will do up to double that.

I average around 100 t/hr in my Cutter doing a combination of both But the Cutter is not as agile as some of the medium sized ships and I keep stopping to deal with the other cores I find:)
I like hanging out on the edge of the galaxy,I'm yet to find a pristine ring. Even if I did the drop rate isn't where my personal logic says it should be from a time perspective. From a gameplay perspective I don't think tritium was a good choice as a fuel,it artificially hobbles the FC's and bring adventures to a grinding halt.
 
I like hanging out on the edge of the galaxy,I'm yet to find a pristine ring. Even if I did the drop rate isn't where my personal logic says it should be from a time perspective. From a gameplay perspective I don't think tritium was a good choice as a fuel,it artificially hobbles the FC's and bring adventures to a grinding halt.
I also spend most of my time well outside the bubble, Tritium mining is definitely not the best way to fuel carriers but it looks as if its here to stay, it could do with a lot of improvement though.
 
100 tritium per hour mining is still too slow. 100 tritium is equivalent to just one FC jump of 500Ly. I like the yield to be 3 to 5 times faster for it to be viable when out deep space exploring.
My carrier takes 130 / jump.... but yes, you are right about, 100t/h is a drop.... when you can just take your carrier on the door of a station with stock and in 30 min you can load 5-6000 tones, enough to fuel you up to Colonia.
 
May I ask, how did you get a carrier without mining?

Beside the mining rushes, I have no idea how one could possibly get this kind of money by other means.
When I need credits, I do missions and earn about 250M to 350M per hour per account in the wing. With 3 accounts, I can reliably earn around 1B in the first 2 hours, and then earn about 1B/hr for subsequent hours. My best run was 5B in 4 hours.
 
If you feel that mining isn't for you, Carriers now have enough range to run on Bubble-bought tritium out to wherever you want to go, and back again.

Though it helps to have multiple accounts and multiple Carriers. I picked up a couple of alts in a Frontier sale awhile back, and it's easy to transfer funds once you have a Carrier (by manipulating the price of something expensive in the market: sell at 5% of galactic average, then buy back at 1,000%).

My (normally) Bubble-based "assistant" is now taking her Carrier (Celeste) 22,000ly out to a system near the far end of the Hawking's Gap sector. My main Carrier (Erebus) will follow and refuel there before heading on out to Dryman and beyond. According to my calculations, Celeste will still have well over twice as much fuel as required for the return journey, enough to refuel Erebus again and get them both home from there.

And if I get a bit carried away and wander off further, I have another 24,000t of tritium on my third Carrier (Terror) at Colonia, which I could send out from there to deliver to most of the galaxy and still get back.

When I need credits, I do missions and earn about 250M to 350M per hour per account in the wing. With 3 accounts, I can reliably earn around 1B in the first 2 hours, and then earn about 1B/hr for subsequent hours. My best run was 5B in 4 hours.

What missions are those? I'll eventually have to buy a lot more tritium.
 
...What missions are those? I'll eventually have to buy a lot more tritium.
In certain systems, you'll find 7 day wing mining missions for Gold, Silver, Bertrandite. In Boom state, you'll also see 24 hour "fetch" missions where you're required to buy a commodity (gold, silver, palladium, tritium) and return it for mission reward. The wing mining missions earn up to 50M each. Since they're 7 day missions, you can stack them during the week and complete them in a single session for maximum efficiency. Since I have three accounts, I can accumulate up to 60. And since I can transfer funds between the accounts, the maximum gross amount I can earn from stacked wing mining missions in a single session is 60 X 50M X 3 = 9B. Practically speaking, the max I've earned from a combination of wing mining missions + Boom fetch missions is around 5-6B in a 5 hr period. Of the wing mining missions, gold pays 50M for ~200t, silver pays 50M for ~400t, Bertrandite pays 50M for ~660t. Of the Boom fetch missions, gold pays 25-35M for ~25t, silver pays 25-35M for 50t, palladium pays 25-35M for 25t, tritium pays 25-35M for ~20t. The keys to maximum profit rate are (1) keep the system factions out of war/election/expansion, and (2) don't take low profit margin missions (e.g. 750t to 900t of Bertrandite for 50M). Item (1) is hard to do if multiple people are working the system in uncoordinated, short-term greedy fashion because the accumulated influence of completed missions can easily push two factions into war. In the system I've used, there are 7 factions where the top faction is a player-backed faction that maintains a wide margin to the rest of the factions that are closely spaced. So, in that system, I've had to push up the lower factions with equal influence until they're spread apart, thus pulling down the player faction significantly. The player faction doesn't like that and often works to quickly restore the system. This all makes for interesting and intellectually challenging game play. Over the years, I've extracted around 35B from that one star system.
 
When I need credits, I do missions and earn about 250M to 350M per hour per account in the wing. With 3 accounts, I can reliably earn around 1B in the first 2 hours, and then earn about 1B/hr for subsequent hours. My best run was 5B in 4 hours.
"My best run was 5B in 4 hours." :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

To keep the fiction online, I will overthrow you and say "my best run was 1 TRILLION / h " - a statement with the same dose of truth like yours, mate ! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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a statement with the same dose of truth like yours, mate
He said he used twinks, that means he was doing wing missions. Which pays out 50 mil and +3 twinks = 200 mil 1 payout. You can take missions for all 4, which mean 4 missions ended on 4 accounts will do 800 mil total.
And I was finding missions like 150 osmium for 50 mil, you just need station with ring + low population (like less then 1000) and good reputation. They will ask low amount to mine for 50 mil.
So... 5 bils does not seem too much. Especially if you took 20 missions for gold which u can buy.
 
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He said he used twinks, that means he was doing wing missions. Which pays out 50 mil and +3 twinks = 200 mil 1 payout. You can take missions for all 4, which mean 4 missions ended on 4 accounts will do 800 mil total.
And I was finding missions like 150 osmium for 50 mil, you just need station with ring + low population (like less then 1000) and good reputation. They will ask low amount to mine for 50 mil.
So... 5 bils does not seem too much. Especially if you took 20 missions for gold which u can buy.

Sure enough, you are right in all you say, I do 50 millions missions by dozens here in Colonia - BUT if you use more than a brain cell, and you do the math, you will realize how much he exagerate !
50 millions = BEST CASE you need at least 10 min ONLY to unload ! Attention, I not even say the mining time ! that is 300 millions / hour, the best case -but I do not count the mining time; If you just buy the ore in other place, then is no more 50 millions ( since you pay for ! ) but some 35 millions ! And is no more just 10 minutes !
From this realistic perspective, to exaggerate like a 5yo kid and say 1200 millions / h is a HUGE step, in the fiction domain already !
Are plenty of missions for Bernadite here in Colonia, 480-500-600 tones for 50 millions BUT you won't get more than 1 / station at the same time, very rare 2 - and sometimes are medium pads, so you need 2-3 runs just to unload ! -

AND if you choose to just buy the ore you do spend some 12 millions, so profit is in the range of 35-38 millions only, and you do a run in a bit more than 10 minutes !
So, by no means you will get 1,2 billions per hour, that's why I said is just fiction.

Even using the "wing trick" you must consider one can only share just 1 mission at a time, AND still some must do the "heavy lifting", right ?

Now, if you get a team of 5-10-20 fools who will all "gift" you with a fat mission shared, sure enough you can make even 1 trillion / h, but will be a lie to declare "YOU" make the credits, right ?
I make myself 1 or 1,4 billions / day but NOT per hour but yes in 3-4 hours, because I mix massacre missions in between, who render more than 50 millions / mission ( 41 millions mission reward and some 10-20 millions extra from bounty)... And is JUST ME - I do own 2 accounts but the second one is "sleeping" on bubble, so the credits I do are made by me and only me.
So, the story with 1,2 BILLIONS / HOUR is just a wet dream.


( ""My best run was 5B in 4 hours."")
 
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50 millions = BEST CASE you need at least 10 min ONLY to unload
take on 1st account 4 missions for 50 mils payout for gold, which i can buy.. shared to 4 account 4 x 50 = 200 mil per mission. I have 4 of them = 800 mil
now relog to each 3 accounts remaining and take 4 missions there (best case he said, all 4 accs got lucky). = + 3 x 800
so 4 x 800 = 3.2 bil.
Maybe he got 5 missions per account - super lucky, then it is 3.2b + 4 * 800 > 5 bil.

Then bring carrier of gold etc and start umping in missions.

Trick is accounts. If you play 1 account it may take a day to gather 20 mission for 5 bils. However, if you play 4 accounts, then you can split 20 missions to 4 accs - each acc takes 5. - that is much faster.
P.S. and if you didn't know, if 1 account ends mission, other 3 gets each 50 mil too if it was shared mission.
 
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take on 1st account 4 missions for 50 mils payout for gold, which i can buy.. shared to 4 account 4 x 50 = 200 mil per mission. I have 4 of them = 800 mil
now relog to each 3 accounts remaining and take 4 missions there (best case he said, all 4 accs got lucky). = + 3 x 800
so 4 x 800 = 3.2 bil.
Maybe he got 5 missions per account - super lucky, then it is 3.2b + 4 * 800 > 5 bil.

Then bring carrier of gold etc and start umping in missions.

Trick is accounts. If you play 1 account it may take a day to gather 20 mission for 5 bils. However, if you play 4 accounts, then you can split 20 missions to 4 accs - each acc takes 5. - that is much faster.
P.S. and if you didn't know, if 1 account ends mission, other 3 gets each 50 mil too if it was shared mission.
Here you make first mistake :
"take on 1st account 4 missions for 50 mils payout for gold" - lol, you won't get 4 gold missions at once. And for sure not even from the same station.

Secondly: - math will kill you:
"gold, which i can buy!" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: - then IS NOT any more 50 millions per mission but 30-35 only. ( gold price is between 40-50 k / tone ! ) - or you know a trick and some stations give you some 2000 tones of gold for free ? ! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

- to buy ore for 4 missions of 50 millions is AT LEAST 30-40 minutes, since that means some 800-1000+ tones ! ( only Gold mission s the exception, but that is rare and to get 4 of them at once is a wet dream also.

"20 mission for 5 bils!" - nop, that is 20 x 30 (35) and that is just some 7-800 millions NOT 5 billions ! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Do not mix here the account profit with the TEAM profit ( 2 or 50 guys/accounts) ; We are talking about ONE person, right ? And not about a team of 5-10-50 players / accounts .

And sharing a mission will NOT give you extra credits on that account, but yes, in OTHER account AFTER you log out / log in, etc.
Next step - runs to BUY and runs to unload. That take time also.A lot more than just 10 minutes.

Lets consider best case scenario: you search and get 5 missions of 50 millions for GOLD - you won't get that from just one station- you will need AT LEAST 4-5 stations.
That is already some 15-20 minutes to fly by, dock, etc.
Now let's go and buy the gold . - and will be at least 2 runs, even in a Cutter, and lets say you are lucky and you get to buy the gold from BIG stations and not from medium pads - so you can use a Cutter - that is again another 15-20 minutes. After 45-50 minutes, if ALL work perfectly ( no interdiction, no Pirates, etc) - you deliver the ore for 5 missions.

We are in the 40-50 minutes range. Now, the funy & dummy part - relog - how many times ? 5 times from main account ( you only can share ONE mission at a time ! ) And 5 times from other 4 accounts. Do the fraking math: 25 log-in / log out - at least 20 minutes JUST for that !
So after MORE than one hour you get what : 35-40 millions x 5 = 180-200 millions in main account and ONLY THAT.
250 millions in each other 4 accounts.
Important fact: NO ACCOUNT manage to get more than 250 millions in over one hour !
( all that considering you are lucky and you get not one but FIVE gold missions, ALL in 50 millions category ( never saw myself that in over 3 years ! ) AND you never got interdicted AND the station who sells you the gold have enough stock, AND is no longer than 1-2 jumps...



"P.S. and if you didn't know, if 1 account ends mission, other 3 gets each 50 mil too if it was shared mission." lol, I think I know a bit more than you suppose.
Again, the "detail" the account who shares one or 20 or 50 missions will NOT get a single extra credit from sharing.
Now, one may argue "my 200 accounts made 5 billions in 4 hours" - sure that is possible, just have 50 guys in a clan , all sharing, and the can bake 2 billions / hour ALL TOGETHER, but in this case to say " MY best run was...." is just a fake statement, right ? Cuz is a team effort and not an individual one.
If you are alone, no matter how many accounts you have, you simply cannot reach 6 billions / 4 hours / account - elementary math will laugh at you.


Again, to say """My best run was 5B in 4 hours."" is pure fantasy. Like me to say here, I make 1 trillion / hour. But the fool is not the one who drop the crap, but the one who believe....
 
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Here you make first mistake :
"take on 1st account 4 missions for 50 mils payout for gold" - lol, you won't get 4 gold missions at once. And for sure not even from the same station.

Secondly: - math will kill you:
"gold, which i can buy!" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: - then IS NOT any more 50 millions per mission but 30-35 only. ( gold price is between 40-50 k / tone ! ) - or you know a trick and some stations give you some 2000 tones of gold for free ? ! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

- to buy ore for 4 missions of 50 millions is AT LEAST 30-40 minutes, since that means some 800-1000+ tones ! ( only Gold mission s the exception, but that is rare and to get 4 of them at once is a wet dream also.

"20 mission for 5 bils!" - nop, that is 20 x 30 (35) and that is just some 7-800 millions NOT 5 billions ! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Do not mix here the account profit with the TEAM profit ( 2 or 50 guys/accounts) ; We are talking about ONE person, right ? And not about a team of 5-10-50 players / accounts .

And sharing a mission will NOT give you extra credits on that account, but yes, in OTHER account AFTER you log out / log in, etc.
Next step - runs to BUY and runs to unload. That take time also.A lot more than just 10 minutes.

Lets consider best case scenario: you search and get 5 missions of 50 millions for GOLD - you won't get that from just one station- you will need AT LEAST 4-5 stations.
That is already some 15-20 minutes to fly by, dock, etc.
Now let's go and buy the gold . - and will be at least 2 runs, even in a Cutter, and lets say you are lucky and you get to buy the gold from BIG stations and not from medium pads - so you can use a Cutter - that is again another 15-20 minutes. After 45-50 minutes, if ALL work perfectly ( no interdiction, no Pirates, etc) - you deliver the ore for 5 missions.

We are in the 40-50 minutes range. Now, the funy & dummy part - relog - how many times ? 5 times from main account ( you only can share ONE mission at a time ! ) And 5 times from other 4 accounts. Do the fraking math: 25 log-in / log out - at least 20 minutes JUST for that !
So after MORE than one hour you get what : 35-40 millions x 5 = 180-200 millions in main account and ONLY THAT.
250 millions in each other 4 accounts.
Important fact: NO ACCOUNT manage to get more than 250 millions in over one hour !
( all that considering you are lucky and you get not one but FIVE gold missions, ALL in 50 millions category ( never saw myself that in over 3 years ! ) AND you never got interdicted AND the station who sells you the gold have enough stock, AND is no longer than 1-2 jumps...



"P.S. and if you didn't know, if 1 account ends mission, other 3 gets each 50 mil too if it was shared mission." lol, I think I know a bit more than you suppose.
Again, the "detail" the account who shares one or 20 or 50 missions will NOT get a single extra credit from sharing.
Now, one may argue "my 200 accounts made 5 billions in 4 hours" - sure that is possible, just have 50 guys in a clan , all sharing, and the can bake 2 billions / hour ALL TOGETHER, but in this case to say " MY best run was...." is just a fake statement, right ? Cuz is a team effort and not an individual one.
If you are alone, no matter how many accounts you have, you simply cannot reach 6 billions / 4 hours / account - elementary math will laugh at you.


Again, to say """My best run was 5B in 4 hours."" is pure fantasy. Like me to say here, I make 1 trillion / hour. But the fool is not the one who drop the crap, but the one who believe....
Dude...shaking my head here.

Firstly, missions pay exorbitantly better for gold than market price. Like, 10x better. So in reality, you can probably not only finish four wing missions faster than 40 minutes, you can probably do it in a single cutter load.

Second, I dunno what jank math you're using, but 20 missions times 200m profit each = 4 billion credits.

Lastly, who the heck cares if it's spread among multiple accounts? Fleet Carriers allow for the easy transfer of credits between accounts, so that literally makes no difference. One player is the only thing that matters.

Let me tell you how this would REALLY work.

1. You dock three of the four accounts at the station in question. You check each of them for wing gold delivery missions, taking about 30 seconds each, and use the remaining 8.5 minutes to load up gold onto your fleet carrier.

2. After about 40 minutes, you have accumulated 5-10 wing missions per account, because you're in a system that produces them regularly, and because when you do missions of one type, more of that mission type tend to appear.

3. Your carrier, loaded with 30 minutes worth of gold(3 minutes each way, 800t per load, total of 4000 gold) arrives at the station.

4. Your other accounts quickly buy the gold from the carrier at the price they'll get for finishing the mission. At the same time, the main account also loads up on gold and lands at the station and takes 1-2 wing missions to finish, as well.

5. You complete 16-32 wing gold delivery missions in the next ten minutes, earning 3.2b-6.4b virtually instantly.

All of this takes place in less than an hour.




Now you'll note that this does not account for the fact that this scales up. Assuming you've got the gold already stored and can run with all 4 accounts getting wing missions, the profit increases even further. In theory, with a good BGS state and a little luck, you could make upwards of ten billion credits per hour.
 
Dude...shaking my head here.

Firstly, missions pay exorbitantly better for gold than market price. Like, 10x better. So in reality, you can probably not only finish four wing missions faster than 40 minutes, you can probably do it in a single cutter load.

Second, I dunno what jank math you're using, but 20 missions times 200m profit each = 4 billion credits.

Lastly, who the heck cares if it's spread among multiple accounts? Fleet Carriers allow for the easy transfer of credits between accounts, so that literally makes no difference. One player is the only thing that matters.

Let me tell you how this would REALLY work.

1. You dock three of the four accounts at the station in question. You check each of them for wing gold delivery missions, taking about 30 seconds each, and use the remaining 8.5 minutes to load up gold onto your fleet carrier.

2. After about 40 minutes, you have accumulated 5-10 wing missions per account, because you're in a system that produces them regularly, and because when you do missions of one type, more of that mission type tend to appear.

3. Your carrier, loaded with 30 minutes worth of gold(3 minutes each way, 800t per load, total of 4000 gold) arrives at the station.

4. Your other accounts quickly buy the gold from the carrier at the price they'll get for finishing the mission. At the same time, the main account also loads up on gold and lands at the station and takes 1-2 wing missions to finish, as well.

5. You complete 16-32 wing gold delivery missions in the next ten minutes, earning 3.2b-6.4b virtually instantly.

All of this takes place in less than an hour.




Now you'll note that this does not account for the fact that this scales up. Assuming you've got the gold already stored and can run with all 4 accounts getting wing missions, the profit increases even further. In theory, with a good BGS state and a little luck, you could make upwards of ten billion credits per h
You confuse the credits one make per account with the bulk made for a wing. Are different things, dude.
And again, you get lost in your mad math when you assume one can buy the gold for free, so 50 millions are still 50 AFTER you pay the gold. And you assume one can get 5 "gold missions" in a row, from the same station. You totally get lost when you even dream further, about "Lastly, who the heck cares if it's spread among multiple accounts?" - because if one account maker credits from a fake price ( carrier buy gold at 45k then will sell to other account at 2 k ) - other account LOSE credits !

Your logic, assumptions, are just fantasy. : "Your other accounts quickly buy the gold from the carrier at the price they'll get for finishing the mission. At the same time, the main account also loads up on gold" - sure, I make a clone of myself and I play the game in 2 PCs in the same time.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
"After about 40 minutes, ( 🤣 🤣 🤣) you have accumulated 5-10 wing missions per account" - are you aware you can only share ONE mission and just one, at a time ?!


I will end this with the very same conclusion. Pure fantasy.

I have over 25 billions in one account, and some 10-11 in other - and is MORE than enough - the game mechanics are designed to make credits like you breathe, anyone can buy a carrier in just a couple of weeks, and after that the process is 10 easier. I play only for fun, credits are secondary, and I think 99% of peoples here have the same attitude.
How many credits are enough credits ?! I will not become a mad man switching between 50 accounts only to try to make trillions more , lol, so, if some do that - that person need help !

PS - I have a bridge to sell you. Interested ?
 
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You confuse the credits one make per account with the bulk made for a wing. Are different things, dude.

Lol, if they're accounts owned by a single player, then no, they're not. Dude.


And again, you get lost in your mad math when you assume one can buy the gold for free, so 50 millions are still 50 AFTER you pay the gold. And you assume one can get 5 "gold missions" in a row, from the same station. You totally get lost when you even dream further, about "Lastly, who the heck cares if it's spread among multiple accounts?" - because if one account maker credits from a fake price ( carrier buy gold at 45k then will sell to other account at 2 k ) - other account LOSE credits !
Again, these are multiple accounts owned by the same player. Who cares which particular account has the credits? A single player is making the credits. That's the only thing that matters.

As far as the price of gold is concerned, sure, you might lose a tenth of your total income, but that's still 9 billion credits per hour, so it's just details.

are you aware you can only share ONE mission and just one, at a time ?!

Uh...so what?

Share mission. Turn in mission. Share next mission. Turn in next mission. Repeat forever.

If you're all sitting in the same station turning in missions, this makes literally no difference.


How many credits are enough credits ?!

Who cares? You're arbitrarily trying to disprove a method and now trying to slip out of your argument. Admit you're wrong and get out.
 
Lol, if they're accounts owned by a single player, then no, they're not. Dude.



Again, these are multiple accounts owned by the same player. Who cares which particular account has the credits? A single player is making the credits. That's the only thing that matters.

As far as the price of gold is concerned, sure, you might lose a tenth of your total income, but that's still 9 billion credits per hour, so it's just details.



Uh...so what?

Share mission. Turn in mission. Share next mission. Turn in next mission. Repeat forever.

If you're all sitting in the same station turning in missions, this makes literally no difference.




Who cares? You're arbitrarily trying to disprove a method and now trying to slip out of your argument. Admit you're wrong and get out.
"Who cares which particular account has the credits?" so, moving credits from one pocket to other is now called "earning credits" . 🤣 🤣 🤣
"Share mission. Turn in mission. Share next mission. Turn in next mission. Repeat forever."
Sure, at a snap of your fingers - you do that what, in 2 minutes, right ? And sure, by coincidence that station will give you non-stop batches of 5 missions of 50 millions for gold...
"If you're all sitting in the same station turning in missions, this makes literally no difference." - that's really childish... Switching between 4 accounts is now an instant operation, sure... takes almost no time, "literally:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:"
Prove me wrong posting a screenshot with your earnings not in 4m not in 5 , in 7 hours - that will be the ultimate proof kid, until then, I ask you again: wanna buy a bridge ?
 
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I like hanging out on the edge of the galaxy,I'm yet to find a pristine ring. Even if I did the drop rate isn't where my personal logic says it should be from a time perspective. From a gameplay perspective I don't think tritium was a good choice as a fuel,it artificially hobbles the FC's and bring adventures to a grinding halt.
You are either very unlucky or terrible at finding systems with ice rings in them. Any system far from any bubble (SOL and Colonia) should be Prestine. Have you mapped the rings to find the hotspots?
 
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