Mixed reviews on Steam

[Sazon]

So, in short:

ED is not for everyone.
ED has a steep learning curve.
ED requires hours of play to get anywhere.
ED has no 'end game'
ED does not hold your hand.
ED requires effort

Therefore ED will not appeal to a fair number of people. Its not a game for all people and that's fine.

Blackmailing FD into giving keys is also silly. They will choose what they want to do, and since its their livelihoods and jobs on the line they are thinking pretty hard about it.

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I don't think the OP is blackmailing FD. Because of the very points you highlight, it will be difficult for ED to get an acceptance that it deserves on Steam and that is why it would be a good idea for people who do understand the nature of ED to be given keys so we can write reviews. I think the steam consumer base is very, very different to the target ED market but understand that FD need to get sales - plus think about when we all started all those years ago, we need to bring on the next generation of ED players.

 

[Adeezha]

This one made me laugh.

"Couldn't figure out why my ship was burning up while flying by a sun. Attacked multiple times by pirates for just flying through space. Crashed multiple times getting in and out of stations. Had fun the whole time."

 

[Rubbernuke]

I dont care about these keys, i do not need them, and i do not need this steam. This change nothing to me.
I would like only to write an review.

How can do it?

Just let it go! Forget about all this silly hysteria and play the game. People will like it or hate it- EDs not going to explode. If young players don't like it then its tough because ED will not change any time soon.

 

[gofast1993]

I think most of peoples hate this game because they are lost at the moment and they don't know what to do.

We still can write guides on the hub, even if we don't own the game, I think some explanations from experienced players is needed for them.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/guides/

 

[Kyokushin]

Just let it go! Forget about all this silly hysteria and play the game. People will like it or hate it- EDs not going to explode. If young players don't like it then its tough because ED will not change any time soon.

Maybe you have the right.

 

[RexKraemer]

Most of the negative posts are quite right from their point of view as a beginner of a game bought from steam. Bad move to sell ED in steam without proper integration, e.g. without using the steam account. The learning curve is steep and you have to get the needed information from the internet (youtube,etc.), the manual is not enough. The content of the game is, lets say, "special" and not easy to comprehend. Just to mention some of the complains which have some truth in it.

I would say the current rating of 68% positive is quite realistic. How many of us would have said the same if we weren't part of a lengthy alpha and beta process where we had much time and much patience to find out how it works?

I play and enjoy this game a lot, but I see, that it is not the right game for the typical gamer between 13 and 25, which are propably the main customers of the gaming industry. Elite dangerous is most of the playing time contemplative. It is a long and tranqil journey through vast emptyness with some occasional scare to loose your ship. And for me I love it that way!

 

[Flappers]

Reviews, Guides, Videos, Screenshots, Broadcasting...

These are just a handful of reasons why FD need to seriously look at giving Steam keys to existing buyers.
It will help the game grow, when you have experienced players talking about the game, providing support and guides for the game.

The chances of Steam users coming to this forum over the discussion forum on Steam is pretty low. Sure there will be a few, but compared to the masses, it's a fraction.

For the sake of growing the game, which was the reason it was released on Steam on the first place... allow existing, experienced players share their views and experiences with new players.

 

[Jumbik]

They could have avoided this altogether by introducing interactive tutorials for new players and creating an intro which explains what is the Elite lore about and who are you in the Sidewinder.

 

[Cosmos]

Let them Sidewinders come, muahaha!

Hmm.. I am resisting the temptation to goto Eravate and say hello.

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Reviews, Guides, Videos, Screenshots, Broadcasting...

These are just a handful of reasons why FD need to seriously look at giving Steam keys to existing buyers.
It will help the game grow, when you have experienced players talking about the game, providing support and guides for the game.

The chances of Steam users coming to this forum over the discussion forum on Steam is pretty low. Sure there will be a few, but compared to the masses, it's a fraction.

For the sake of growing the game, which was the reason it was released on Steam on the first place... allow existing, experienced players share their views and experiences with new players.

At the moment it feels like the player base is supporting the game on Steam rather than Frontier.

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Yes, but in overall mixed is still mixed. It looks not good :/

X-Rebirth and Lord of the Stars II both had tanking reviews. It stuck with them until they started hitting the bargain bin. Games considered unfinished tend to draw a lot of ire on Steam. I'm not surprised. The positive reviews I saw up there when I checked this morning, mostly seemed to be from people who played the beta. Many people on there are going to ignore them outright, or automatically assume they're a fanboy.

In general I don't even pay attention to user reviews on Steam.

 

[Quineloe]

Does it matter? They all count equally towards the review score, and that's the first (and often only) thing people are looking at. If a game has really bad score as ED has now, most people will ignore it.

ED will always get these crappy reviews, if they steam launch now, or in a year. Fact is the generation iPhone is not used to complex games anymore. We don't need them here anyways. They claim no tutorials? Well if ED had tutorials for every aspect of the game, they'd complain "omg too many tutorials". The game is not for them. Did you actually read the reviews? Some of them are for crashes, and btw the reviews for ED are currently 68% positive, which is not a "really bad score".

One of the reviews says "It doesn't have player to player trading", well duh, he might as well have said "I can't play a knight with sword and armor!"

So you're basically asking for ED to never be put on steam. Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Danube]

There are more and more negative reviews on Steam due to the fact that a whole bunch of people who haven't played more than 2 hours are frustrated that they bought a simulator instead of an arcade game.

I think it's more because it's a very shallow simulator.

 

[Frog]

I think most of peoples hate this game because they are lost at the moment and they don't know what to do.

We still can write guides on the hub, even if we don't own the game, I think some explanations from experienced players is needed for them.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/guides/

You should not blame the people for that. It was a bad move from FD to throw it into Steam without informing the community first. It would have been ideal to invest a bit into better tutorials before doing that, but at the very least they should have been working with the community, to have experienced players who like the game helping the newbies and promoting the game.

Right now it looks like another hasty cash grab, without thinking about the longer term reputation of the product.

 

[babelfisch]

I don't think the community gains anything by people who base their decision to buy this game on steam comments.

So if it holds off the morons negative feedback is welcome.

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

You should not blame the people for that. It was a bad move from FD to throw it into Steam without informing the community first. It would have been ideal to invest a bit into better tutorials before doing that, but at the very least they should have been working with the community, to have experienced players who like the game helping the newbies and promoting the game.

Right now it looks like another hasty cash grab, without thinking about the longer term reputation of the product.

Hate to say it, but I think you're right. They seem to be scrambling to get it out on as many platforms and mediums as possible. I can only assume they're doing it in the hopes of staving off losses incurred with SC and EvE Valkyrie. The lack of content is going to bite them in the rear though. Hopefully this year's financial statement isn't in the red like the last one.

 

[Varrag]

OP: people who bought ED on Steam for the first time are writing their early impressions, what's the big deal? Surely, you don't expect that everyone must like and praise ED. After all, I see that most of them reviews are generally positive so far.

 

[Ximrats]

Hmm.. I am resisting the temptation to goto Eravate and say hello.

Now this sounds like fun

 

[Defacto]

All the most helpful reviews are positive. If you sort after most helpful (which is default), you don't even get any negative reviews on the first page.
I don't see the problem here. You can pretty immediatly see if the bad reviews have any real foundation, because then, people will upvote them and they'll end up along the most helpful.

 

[Valethar]

Giving us Steam keys isn't going to 'correct the travesty'. That's the sort of thing that happens when they don't bother reading before clicking the buy button.

Steam reviews are sort of like reviews on IGN and MMORPG. The only people that take them seriously are the ones writing them.

 

[obliterator]

To be honest, "negative" reviews are not necessarily negative. Depends on who reads them.

For example, if I read something like "This isn't a jump in and play game." - SOLD!

Same goes for seeing throngs of whining CoD kids bawling all over their keyboards... when I see stuff like that I just *know* the game must be a gem.

This. Also, when I see someone talk about the controls and the content of a game after less than 1h played, I automatically assume that he just doesn't know what he's talking about.

However, I think that part of the problem is due to the marketing behind the game. If you look at the trailers, you might think that ED is a fast-paced action game arcade shooter. I think they should just release a more accurate trailer, focusing on the deep and technical aspects of the game rather than showing a few ships pew-pewing at each others.